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Clipping textlines
« on: January 13, 2010, 04:22:48 PM »
Have 2 PDF A4 landscape pages to bring into XMF. I thought I could change the 4 col type to 100K. They are out of PhSh CS4...1 big image, except for the type (see screenshot). That refers to the font, but PSP seeing them as "clipping textlines".
I have reExported for the hell of it, from Indy CS4.
I cannot get the expected colour options in Inspector...I was hoping to change type in there. Everything greyed out. Can anyone confirm that they will have to be be printing it as 4 col type? It may not be a big deal.

...please refresh my memory. Is PhSh actually capable of producing a PDF with 100K type.   :undecided:
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Re: Clipping textlines
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2010, 04:42:18 PM »
Here is a zoom-in of the type, file opened in its creator PhSh. Looks  jaggy to me. Has PhSh just tried to salvage to type in some way on the original PDF save?   :huh:  Or is PhSh just incapable of rendering it on screen as vector? 

...type on the inside looks like image-only, anyway. There's a full A5 page of it (it folds tp a 4pp A5). I think I'm pissing in the wind.

In case I have to talk to the dezinger...(they're usually pretty competent, this lot), should she be going back tp PhSh and making sure type is 100K on PDF save, or should I be suggesting she goes the sensible route, place the image stuff in Indy...Paste the type in...do it 'properly'.   :undecided:
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Re: Clipping textlines
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2010, 05:03:48 PM »
Photoshop can show it vector if it is vector. If you zoom in from Acrobat does it look the same? If it does it is rasterized type and will never be vector. Try clicking right here and see if it selects is as an image instead of "clipping textlines". If it does just convert to grayscale with Inspector. You may have to select several pieces individually to get it all converted to gray.
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Re: Clipping textlines
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2010, 05:46:15 PM »
Type on P 1 is the clipping textlines. Shot #5. Even so, all coloring options greyed out. Stroke as well...greyed.
Type on P 2 is just image. Shot #6.

I think it's a lost cause. Why do they not get using Indy for the type and Placing their precious images.   :banghead:

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Re: Clipping textlines
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2010, 06:02:13 PM »
Usually when I see clipping textlines like that I can click a blank area in the type and instead of it selecting the clipping textline it selects the image that you can then convert to grayscale with Pitstop.

If you right click it with the TouchUp Object tool do you see "Edit Image..." or "Edit Object..."?
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Re: Clipping textlines
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2010, 06:30:02 PM »
I see where you go on that one Joe, but it will only select the 'whole page' image; some of which I've included on this shot...4 colour stuff. No greyscaling there allowed. 
Option 2 would be to place it twice in Indy...change to greyscale for the type...reExport. But the other side is rasterised type, so why bother...get'em to do it properly.
I may do it as a quick exercise though.
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Re: Clipping textlines
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2010, 06:40:56 PM »
Quote from: frailer on January 13, 2010, 06:30:02 PM
I see where you go on that one Joe, but it will only select the 'whole page' image; some of which I've included on this shot...4 colour stuff. No greyscaling there allowed. 
Option 2 would be to place it twice in Indy...change to greyscale for the type...reExport. But the other side is rasterised type, so why bother...get'em to do it properly.
I may do it as a quick exercise though.


Once you accomplish that maybe you could tackle peace in the middle east. :laugh:

Seriously though, since the type is on a white background I would open the image in Photoshop and change the type to black only.
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Re: Clipping textlines
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2010, 07:00:49 PM »
Have 'fixed' the small panel. Grey is good. Manual conversion fixed half of it.   :huh:  Running the EAL Convert to grey retain Black type did it though. Then placed that and reExported. Spoke to dezinger, nice girl, just hasn't been into Indy much, but walked her through the basics of Placing the image and bringing the type into a Type panel...>Export that page. I await with fingers crossed.

Thanks

...proofed and out the door.
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