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Title: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: Daniel on July 01, 2009, 05:32:44 AM
Hi guys, I need to replace an image in a PDF document. Pls tell me how to go about it.
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: David on July 01, 2009, 06:46:54 AM
okay,
First, what version of Acrobat and what OS...
Do you want to edit an image in a PDF or just replace it with a completely different image?
Are the images the same size (physical dim)?



and, oh by the way, Welcome to the B4Print forums, pull up a chair and stay a while, someone will be around later with the appetizers and drinks.


cheers,
David
 :cool:
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on July 01, 2009, 07:44:57 AM
Dave's questions are pretty pertinent, BUT if you are running a Mac (Use PC equivalents if on a PC) and the image you are replacing have the same physical dimensions, you might try this:

Use the Touch-Up Object tool located in /Tools/Advanced Editing... Depending on your version of Acrobat, you may need to set-up your external Raster editor to be whatever version of Photoshop your flying. Once you select the image with the Control key help down, go to Edit Image... the image "should" open in Photoshop where you can manipulate it however... be sure to check your resolution. Upsample if you have to, it won't matter in the end because you are going to Paste the "new" image over the old and flatten. DO NOT do a "save as," instead just "save."

That's one way to do it, there are many more.
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: jimking on July 01, 2009, 08:04:45 AM
Another way is place the pdf in Indy, then place your new graphic over top of the old one if possible (watch your transparencies) export to pdf and presto.
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: hotmetal on July 01, 2009, 06:20:37 PM
I've done it with the DCS method and that works just fine. Is there a way to do this with Pitstop?
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: gnubler on July 01, 2009, 06:53:34 PM
I'm also familiar with the DCS method, however it seems a majority of the time when I right click on an image with the Object selection tool nothing comes up in the contextual menu...like Acrobat doesn't see the image. I'm using Acrobat Std (not sure which version). So I usually use the JimKing method after rasterizing the whole PDF and cropping/saving just the image I need.
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: mattbeals on July 01, 2009, 06:57:56 PM
Quote from: hotmetal on July 01, 2009, 06:20:37 PMI've done it with the DCS method and that works just fine. Is there a way to do this with Pitstop?

Yes.
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: gnubler on July 01, 2009, 06:59:10 PM
Quote from: mattbeals on July 01, 2009, 06:57:56 PM
Quote from: hotmetal on July 01, 2009, 06:20:37 PMI've done it with the DCS method and that works just fine. Is there a way to do this with Pitstop?

Yes.

What is Pitstop? If I can't use Pitstop, can I still use the Pitstop method?
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on July 01, 2009, 08:44:55 PM
Like I said, there are several ways of doing it. The one I demonstrated above would be the most common without Pitstop. Jim Kings method works, as well as deleting any raster data in a PDF, then placing the Vector portions in InDesign, and placing the raster images back in the InDesign document.

The most destructive, and last resort, would be to completely rasterize the PDF at a high enough resolution to minimize bitmapping anomalies.

With Pitstop, there are several more options.
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: hotmetal on July 01, 2009, 09:07:28 PM
Quote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on July 01, 2009, 08:44:55 PMLike I said, there are several ways of doing it. The one I demonstrated above would be the most common without Pitstop. Jim Kings method works, as well as deleting any raster data in a PDF, then placing the Vector portions in InDesign, and placing the raster images back in the InDesign document.

The most destructive, and last resort, would be to completely rasterize the PDF at a high enough resolution to minimize bitmapping anomalies.

With Pitstop, there are several more options.

I feel the urge... to explore...
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on July 01, 2009, 09:25:26 PM
Take my hand HM... we depart on the Magic Carpet in 3... 2... 1 :hemp:
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: determined on July 02, 2009, 01:49:50 PM
In pitstop, there's also the place pdf method (under the edit menu)...I've only found this to work if the images are the same size....and in the dialog box you use the "grab area from selection" box....and it strangely leave the "selection" (original image) in place after placing the new one over top....  :huh:

actually, just used this today...I had an image that wouldn't open in photoshop (again with the indexed RGB thing)...so I did a crop (using the pitstop coordinates) to crop out all the rest of the page, opened the cropped pdf in photoshop, converted it and saved it to my desktop, then opened the original pdf file (full page version), selected the original image (that wouldn't open) and used the place pdf (using grab area from selection)....worked like a charm!! I did have to cut the new image and delete the old one, tho...  :undecided:
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: Joe on July 02, 2009, 04:57:40 PM
The Enfocus Replace command works too but it will scale the image non-proportionately (<---sp) you are putting in to the size of the original.
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: frailer on July 03, 2009, 05:20:18 AM
Quote from: determined on July 02, 2009, 01:49:50 PMIn pitstop, there's also the place pdf method (under the edit menu)...I've only found this to work if the images are the same size....and in the dialog box you use the "grab area from selection" box....and it strangely leave the "selection" (original image) in place after placing the new one over top....  :huh:

actually, just used this today...I had an image that wouldn't open in photoshop (again with the indexed RGB thing)...so I did a crop (using the pitstop coordinates) to crop out all the rest of the page, opened the cropped pdf in photoshop, converted it and saved it to my desktop, then opened the original pdf file (full page version), selected the original image (that wouldn't open) and used the place pdf (using grab area from selection)....worked like a charm!! I did have to cut the new image and delete the old one, tho...  :undecided:

Yeah, that Place PDF in a PDF dialogue box is clunky, to say the least. You have to really step-by-step it. Once you define the area, (broken rectangle), and follow the sequence, it's not so bad. As you say, same sized PDfs are a 'jump-in-place' breeze. I find myself using it for soft-proofing a lot. Especially where there's knives/varnishes. I just go to work on a copy of the files; knock back Opacity (under prepress tab), change/assign tints to varnishes....move placed 'layers' as desired to get the effect...(Edit>Pitstop Layers>Move Backwards~Forwards...).

LOL, today I used it to simulate white ink on grey board. Drew a rectangle over the job...assign a Spot tint, move to back. Then change 'white' ink colour to...whatever. Knock Opacity back to o%....white ink on 'board'.  Musta thought of that one while I was meditating about something else.    :laugh:

Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: robin on July 08, 2009, 06:35:14 AM
Hi Daniel,

You can use Magic PDF software. You can check it out at. www.magic-PDF.com.

-Robin
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: David on July 08, 2009, 07:22:38 AM
Welcome to the forums Robin!

Nice tip on the Magic PDF software, thanks.
Sadly, it only runs on a PC and there is no mention of the price.
Depending on the price, it could be an alternative to Acrobat.
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: Tracy on July 08, 2009, 12:40:39 PM
Welcome Robin!
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: determined on July 08, 2009, 01:27:49 PM
yeah, Robin welcome aboard!!
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: Laurens on July 08, 2009, 02:30:37 PM
Great topic! I've used the Touchup procedure quite a lot in the past and it works fine. I've added a link to this discussion on my page about editing PDF files (http://www.prepressure.com/pdf/basics/editing). Keep the good stuff coming about alternative ways of swapping PDF files.
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: hotmetal on July 08, 2009, 07:03:04 PM
Spent the better part of the shift working my way thoroughly through the PitStop user guide. Previously I just poked at it, used the selection tools to get rid of intruding marks and scales, stuff like that. Now I is an xpert! Relatively speaking, of course. And I owe it all to my young mentor, DCS for reminding me that learning can still be fun even when there's no atta-boy pats on the back for putting out the extra effort around here!   :wink:   Who cares, this stuff is downright fun!
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on July 08, 2009, 08:58:14 PM
Quote from: hotmetal on July 08, 2009, 07:03:04 PMSpent the better part of the shift working my way thoroughly through the PitStop user guide. Previously I just poked at it, used the selection tools to get rid of intruding marks and scales, stuff like that. Now I is an xpert! Relatively speaking, of course. And I owe it all to my young mentor, DCS for reminding me that learning can still be fun even when there's no atta-boy pats on the back for putting out the extra effort around here!   :wink:   Who cares, this stuff is downright fun!

Excellent. The plus side... Better prepared and armed with knowledge against those arrogant Desingers. Nothing I love more than knocking a veteran know-it-all and legend in his own mind Desinger to his knees. :evil:
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: frailer on July 09, 2009, 06:43:31 AM
Quote from: hotmetal on July 08, 2009, 07:03:04 PMPreviously I just poked at it, used the selection tools to get rid of intruding marks and scales, stuff like that. !

It seriously saved my arse again today. Copy and paste some Front Cover footer type on the previous imposed forme...Hong Kong became Brisbane; flick the old one...proof'n'plate.
It was a repeat job (oops-the-colour-doesn't-match-the -previous). Previous becomes current in one minute. The more I use it the more I rely on it.   :relieved:

Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: Dramatictimes on August 18, 2009, 01:39:47 AM
Do you have MS Word? If so, just a PDF to Word Converter (http://www.allpdftools.com/pdf-to-word-converter.html#168) can solve the problem, after editing, use the free office add-in SaveAsPDF (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=f1fc413c-6d89-4f15-991b-63b07ba5f2e5&displaylang=en) to save word as pdf format by clicking files>save as. You all can have a free trial and sincerely hope they can do you some favor.
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: tapdn on August 18, 2009, 06:50:59 AM
...got to be a put-on.  :tongue:
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: almaink on August 18, 2009, 07:46:39 AM
Quote from: Dramatictimes on August 18, 2009, 01:39:47 AMDo you have MS Word? If so, just a PDF to Word Converter (http://www.allpdftools.com/pdf-to-word-converter.html#168) can solve the problem, after editing, use the free office add-in SaveAsPDF (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=f1fc413c-6d89-4f15-991b-63b07ba5f2e5&displaylang=en) to save word as pdf format by clicking files>save as. You all can have a free trial and sincerely hope they can do you some favor.

Word? In prepress?
I could use a screwdriver to hammer a nail too, but WTF would I?  :blowup:
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: gnubler on August 18, 2009, 12:00:01 PM
Quote from: tapdn on August 18, 2009, 06:50:59 AM...got to be a put-on.  :tongue:

No, just a salesperson.
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: ninjaPB_43 on August 18, 2009, 12:42:08 PM
Quote from: Dramatictimes on August 18, 2009, 01:39:47 AMDo you have MS Word? If so, just a PDF to Word Converter (http://www.allpdftools.com/pdf-to-word-converter.html#168) can solve the problem, after editing, use the free office add-in SaveAsPDF (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=f1fc413c-6d89-4f15-991b-63b07ba5f2e5&displaylang=en) to save word as pdf format by clicking files>save as. You all can have a free trial and sincerely hope they can do you some favor.

Oh jeez.    :toaster:   someone quick, he's giving away all our secrets.
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: mattbeals on August 18, 2009, 01:32:53 PM
You can always follow the Ghent Work Groups recommendations for making PDF's from Office files.

http://www.gwg.org/Office_Document_Printing_-1.phtml
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: Dramatictimes on August 18, 2009, 07:37:06 PM
You may need a PDF editor to do that but it will cost you so mach. If you have MS Word, just use a free online conversion service such as PDFonline and Zamzer to convert you pdf file into word for easy edit.
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: tapdn on August 18, 2009, 07:42:49 PM
Quote from: gnubler on August 18, 2009, 12:00:01 PM
Quote from: tapdn on August 18, 2009, 06:50:59 AM...got to be a put-on.  :tongue:

No, just a salesperson.

hummmm....troll or wind up merchant I be betting. You know this person?
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: Dramatictimes on August 19, 2009, 12:21:02 AM
What you need is a PDF editor, but most of them are cost much especially Adobe Acrobat. When I edit PDF files (http://www.allpdftools.com/pdf-editor.html#168), I prefer to this PDF Editor (http://www.allpdftools.com/pdf-editor.html#168) due to the relatively affordable cost and overall editing features. You may have a try. By the way, if you donot care the conversion quality of file you can refer to some online conversion websites and convert your file into Word then replace your image Zamzer (http://www.zamzar.com/) and PDF online (http://www.pdfonline.com/pdf2word/index.asp) are the better choice.
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: ratintrap on August 19, 2009, 04:21:50 AM
Quote from: Dramatictimes on August 19, 2009, 12:21:02 AMWhat you need is a PDF editor, but most of them are cost much especially Adobe Acrobat. When I edit PDF files (http://www.allpdftools.com/pdf-editor.html#168), I prefer to this PDF Editor (http://www.allpdftools.com/pdf-editor.html#168) due to the relatively affordable cost and overall editing features. You may have a try. By the way, if you donot care the conversion quality of file you can refer to some online conversion websites and convert your file into Word then replace your image Zamzer (http://www.zamzar.com/) and PDF online (http://www.pdfonline.com/pdf2word/index.asp) are the better choice.

Acrobat 9 Professional = $409.95

PitStop Professional = $642.30

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: gnubler on August 19, 2009, 10:05:14 AM
 :ninja:
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: Dramatictimes on August 28, 2009, 03:37:55 AM
That calls for a PDF editor to replace the image of your PDF.But since most of PDF editors is high-priced, I recommend you to use a more PDF to Word Converter to convert PDF to Word doc (http://www.allpdftools.com/pdf-to-word-converter.html#168) then replace your image. After editing, you can use a office add-on SaveAsPDF (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=f1fc413c-6d89-4f15-991b-63b07ba5f2e5&displaylang=en) to save word as pdf format if necessary.
You all can have a free trial and sincerely hope they can do you some favor.
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: ratintrap on August 28, 2009, 04:21:19 AM
Quote from: gnubler on August 19, 2009, 10:05:14 AM:ninja:

Ted, you and I have witnessed many things, but nothing as bodacious as what just happened. Besides, we told ourselves to listen to this guy.
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: ratintrap on August 28, 2009, 07:18:30 AM
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 :ninja:
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: gnubler on August 28, 2009, 10:36:11 AM
Dude, that's me! On the right side! Hi! I remember that old dude...ummmm, Sow-crates or somethin.
Title: Re: How to replace image in PDF
Post by: ratintrap on August 28, 2009, 10:47:04 AM
look him up. Oh, it's under So-crates.