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Title: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: frailer on February 08, 2012, 03:24:28 PM
Our head office dezinger people asked me to look at Q2ID pricing. I've received a question from 'higher-up'... "Doesn't InDesign import Quark files?"

What's the current status on this? We've just moved to CS5.5. Would want to be able to open ANY Q file. My guess is that Q2ID would offer a more reliable/featured route.   :undecided:

Here's one post 'out there'... 'Indesign CS5 can open Quark files, but the quark file needs to be "backsaved" to Quark 4 if it is a newer quark file version - q2id is a much better solution'.  Sounds like a cheapskate road to ruin, if still true.
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: t-pat on February 08, 2012, 03:54:25 PM
I used q2id once, on a catalog. It worked well enough to get the thing going but it was an in-house job for the old company so I had a lot of leeway and replaced half the content. Not a great indication of how a live job would go as-is.
IIRC indesign will open quack 4 files only  :old:
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: DCurry on February 08, 2012, 03:54:43 PM
I think ID will only open really old Q files, like version 4 (maybe 5, can't remember.) Quark got wind of it and changed something to make it no worky anymore in newer versions.

We have a copy of Q2ID and it is great. We wouldn't convert a customer's file, but most of our stuff is inhouse and all ID now, so anything old done in Q gets converted.
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: frailer on February 08, 2012, 04:08:49 PM
Thanks Dan. just the answer I needed.    :punchy:
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: t-pat on February 08, 2012, 04:10:46 PM
funny, nearly the same answer.
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: frailer on February 08, 2012, 04:19:01 PM
Quote from: frailer on February 08, 2012, 04:08:49 PMThanks Dan and tpat. just the answer I needed.    :punchy:

 .............. sorry...........   :laugh:
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: t-pat on February 08, 2012, 04:34:10 PM
Quote from: frailer on February 08, 2012, 04:19:01 PM
Quote from: frailer on February 08, 2012, 04:08:49 PMThanks Dan and tpat. just the answer I needed.    :punchy:

 .............. sorry...........   :laugh:

you're just miffed at me because I said I like Housos
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on February 09, 2012, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: frailer on February 08, 2012, 03:24:28 PMOur head office dezinger people asked me to look at Q2ID pricing. I've received a question from 'higher-up'... "Doesn't InDesign import Quark files?"

What's the current status on this? We've just moved to CS5.5. Would want to be able to open ANY Q file. My guess is that Q2ID would offer a more reliable/featured route.   :undecided:

Here's one post 'out there'... 'Indesign CS5 can open Quark files, but the quark file needs to be "backsaved" to Quark 4 if it is a newer quark file version - q2id is a much better solution'.  Sounds like a cheapskate road to ruin, if still true.

You know, saving back is not really a great idea. You lose all the features built into the newer versions. If said desinger uses drop shadows or any of that other transparency crap, QXD.V4 will drop it out. If you have creative control, that's one thing, but opening Quark files in InDesign in leu of buying Quark is asinine and a disservice to your customer.
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: t-pat on February 09, 2012, 04:57:53 PM
Quote from: t-pat on February 08, 2012, 04:34:10 PM
Quote from: frailer on February 08, 2012, 04:19:01 PM
Quote from: frailer on February 08, 2012, 04:08:49 PMThanks Dan and tpat. just the answer I needed.    :punchy:

 .............. sorry...........   :laugh:

you're just miffed at me because I said I like Housos

this isn't really true is it Frailer?
 :cold1:
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: frailer on February 09, 2012, 05:05:53 PM
No, not true. Just social ineptitude on my part. Are you referring to the Paul Fenech show? I'm embarrassed I've not watched it; he's great. But I shall now. Too many things to do these days...
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: t-pat on February 09, 2012, 05:30:07 PM
Quote from: frailer on February 09, 2012, 05:05:53 PMNo, not true. Just social ineptitude on my part. Are you referring to the Paul Fenech show? I'm embarrassed I've not watched it; he's great. But I shall now. Too many things to do these days...

Yes, Paul Fenech.

Oh good, you haven't (yet) been offended by it. Yes, brilliant show. I also watched several episodes of his show "Pizza". It was good in a low budget slapstick way but Housos is way funnier.

Really reminds me of my childhood there. Well, except without the bits with everyone putting everything on youtube, because I didn't time travel.
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: DCurry on February 09, 2012, 05:33:54 PM
Quote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on February 09, 2012, 04:55:39 PM\ou know, saving back is not really a great idea. You lose all the features built into the newer versions. If said desinger uses drop shadows or any of that other transparency crap, QXD.V4 will drop it out. If you have creative control, that's one thing, but opening Quark files in InDesign in leu of buying Quark is asinine and a disservice to your customer.

Agreed - I wouldn't recommend converting as a way to avoid Quark. As mentioned above, in my case we convert our own old Q files but I'd never do it to a customer's file (I only get files from outside 2-3 times a month.)
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: frailer on February 09, 2012, 05:59:18 PM
I understand what you're saying, but... and I cross fingers/touch wood here..... not had a Q file lob in in, literally, 3 years. Aussies dropped the BigQ like it had Ebola virus. Every now and then, an off-shore one comes in to our dezingers. I can see why it's a risk-assessment thing. I've got Q7.2, and working (a miracle?) on my iMac still. We're so out of touch I couldn't even tell you what version it's on now.  :shrug: I know for sure they are never going to fork out on more Q. Out of my control. I regard getting permission to get Q2ID as a great achievement.
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: Joe on February 09, 2012, 06:10:54 PM
Quote from: frailer on February 09, 2012, 05:59:18 PMI understand what you're saying, but... and I cross fingers/touch wood here..... not had a Q file lob in in, literally, 3 years. Aussies dropped the BigQ like it had Ebola virus. Every now and then, an off-shore one comes in to our dezingers. I can see why it's a risk-assessment thing. I've got Q7.2, and working (a miracle?) on my iMac still. We're so out of touch I couldn't even tell you what version it's on now.  :shrug: I know for sure they are never going to fork out on more Q. Out of my control. I regard getting permission to get Q2ID as a great achievement.

It is kind of like giving someone a gun and you know they are going to shoot themselves eventually. :laugh:
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: frailer on February 09, 2012, 06:15:25 PM
On those rare occasions, can only proceed with all the caution I can muster, in blissful consort with Head Girl.   again--->  :shrug:   At least they seem to be supplying PDFs as well these days. Printers' spreads, of course. Ya gotta help poor old prepress.   :sarcasm:
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on February 09, 2012, 06:19:02 PM
Quote from: frailer on February 09, 2012, 05:59:18 PMI understand what you're saying, but... and I cross fingers/touch wood here..... not had a Q file lob in in, literally, 3 years. Aussies dropped the BigQ like it had Ebola virus. Every now and then, an off-shore one comes in to our dezingers. I can see why it's a risk-assessment thing. I've got Q7.2, and working (a miracle?) on my iMac still. We're so out of touch I couldn't even tell you what version it's on now.  :shrug: I know for sure they are never going to fork out on more Q. Out of my control. I regard getting permission to get Q2ID as a great achievement.

Captain, Captain.... have you not learned what "community" means? You have several members here that would be happy to help you with the job. I can only speak for myself specifically. I stay current on Quark, 9.2 as of right now and would have no problem helping a brother out.
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: frailer on February 09, 2012, 06:59:03 PM
I know. I would not hesitate to avail myself of your wonderful services, way out on the plains of Oklahoma. But this is Head Girl stuff. She orchestrates and controls everything.    :whip:  (do we have a B&D version of this one Joe?)

"......  I am just a poor boy and my story's..lalalal lal la la........."    :band:
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: frailer on February 09, 2012, 07:34:20 PM
.... and for anyone curious about Housos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdgTpBvp9n4)
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on February 09, 2012, 07:50:52 PM
Quote from: frailer on February 09, 2012, 06:59:03 PMI know. I would not hesitate to avail myself of your wonderful services, way out on the plains of Oklahoma. But this is Head Girl stuff. She orchestrates and controls everything.    :whip:  (do we have a B&D version of this one Joe?)

"......  I am just a poor boy and my story's..lalalal lal la la........."    :band:

The option is available, if you so choose. I can make PDFs for you or whatever you want. Let me know.
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: Joe on February 09, 2012, 08:03:48 PM
Quote from: frailer on February 09, 2012, 07:34:20 PM.... and for anyone curious about Housos

That was great!

 :lmao:
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: frailer on February 09, 2012, 10:03:54 PM
Quote from: Joe on February 09, 2012, 08:03:48 PM
Quote from: frailer on February 09, 2012, 07:34:20 PM.... and for anyone curious about Housos

That was great!

 :lmao:

     ...more over in Off Topic Topics..   :wink:

Quote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on February 09, 2012, 07:50:52 PMThe option is available, if you so choose. I can make PDFs for you or whatever you want. Let me know.

Thanks DCS, noted.    :cool:
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: frailer on February 13, 2012, 07:32:15 PM
Got Q2ID loaded and working. Curiosity... where are the Q2ID files kept? Couldn't see them buried anywhere. Is it a bog-standard plugin?
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: Tracy on February 13, 2012, 08:42:24 PM
let us know what you find out- I think it is a plugin
can I ask what you paid for it?
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: frailer on February 14, 2012, 01:09:38 AM
Quote from: Tracy on February 13, 2012, 08:42:24 PMlet us know what you find out- I think it is a plugin
can I ask what you paid for it?

AU$217, (not including our 10% value added tax)
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: frailer on February 14, 2012, 08:55:03 PM
Finally located the little lurker. 
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: Ear on February 15, 2012, 11:20:31 AM
Frailer, I envision you saying that with Steve Irwin accent and excitement.  :tongue:
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: DigiCorn on February 15, 2012, 11:45:33 AM
Quote from: Earendil on February 15, 2012, 11:20:31 AMFrailer, I envision you saying that with Steve Irwin accent and excitement.  :tongue:
Crikey!
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: Tracy on February 15, 2012, 12:20:29 PM
do you have to update the plug in with every cs update?
I noticed it said cs5
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: frailer on February 15, 2012, 02:07:12 PM
Yes, best Steve Irwin....

Tracy, I'll check the case this morning, (it is a disk). It works in CS5.5, whichever way.
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: frailer on February 15, 2012, 03:43:22 PM
Q2ID disk labelled 'Version 5.5'
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: Tracy on February 16, 2012, 01:33:09 PM
The price sounds reasonable enough
I found a Q2ID on a pc I may try it and see if it works
Im sure it's an older version, but I got a long doc I would like to transfer some day

thanks for the info frailer! :smiley:
Title: Re: Q2ID vs. 'Import'
Post by: frailer on February 16, 2012, 01:43:23 PM
No worries. All the usual provisos apply. Text wraps, line breaks, type glyphs, stuff in tables/forms. You would need an original laser or printed copy to check stuff; if it matters.