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silly question - i ought to know!
« on: November 28, 2007, 05:43:38 AM »
folks - the export pdf function in quark - does it use distiller to write the pdf or not?

for some reason - i'm not sure why - i actually thought it did....then someone told me it didnt

i should know :-[
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Re: silly question - i ought to know!
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2007, 07:42:16 AM »
I think it uses JAWS.

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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2007, 08:14:18 AM »


thanks pointy
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Re: silly question - i ought to know!
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2007, 08:36:17 AM »
You can go into Preferences and set it to just create a postscript when using the Export to PDF feature - then, you can Distill it.

I've actually had zero problems with the Jaws PDFs that Quark creates, and I use it on every single Q7 job we get. I even went into my System Preferences and assigned a shortcut (Comand-E) so it works just like InDesign.
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Re: silly question - i ought to know!
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2007, 08:45:27 AM »
Export to PDF using JAWS works well in version 6.5 as well. Only things you gotta watch out for are the way you embed fonts ( subset or Full embed), and Color mode. Sometimes with spots AS IS works sometimes you need to use DeviceN. Same thing with font embedding. Whatever you use make sure you check the results in Acrobat before
closing the Quack file, as you may need to remake the PDF using other options.
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Re: silly question - i ought to know!
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2007, 08:48:03 AM »
Is there anyway to get a Quark pdf to open automatically?

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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2007, 10:40:41 AM »


ok - another question i really feel i should know the answer to :-[

jaws - can it keep transparency live?
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2007, 10:53:07 AM »
As soon as you generate the post script the transparency will be flattened wether using jaws or not. Are you printing directly to Jaws?
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Re: silly question - i ought to know!
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2007, 10:55:42 AM »
Export to PDF using JAWS works well in version 6.5 as well.

I never liked using direct export in 6 - no presets!
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2007, 04:24:54 AM »
jezza - no mate it's a question thats popped up - i've maintained that from quark the next step is postscript - whatever you do.

you've confimed I was right (see - i was just checking all along :-[)

postscript=screwed transparency from quark in some cases (not all - i guess it can work).

here's another question - which, in your opinion(s), creates a better pdf from quark - an exported via jaws pdf, or a postscript and distilled pdf?

or is there no difference?
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Re: silly question - i ought to know!
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2007, 04:53:11 AM »
I'd prefer to distill, but some members report perfectly good results with Jaws. There really is no problem with Jaws at all. This is just a personal preference.
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2007, 05:05:16 AM »


ok mate thanks- personally i've never noticed any differences - maybe i just didnt look close enough!

i tend to export and tweak options as required. apart from transparency issues mostly they work well.

well - they would since i now pdf out of quack at the earliest opportunity and bang it straight into indesign as a standard practise ;D
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2007, 05:29:48 AM »
well - they would since i now pdf out of quack at the earliest opportunity and bang it straight into indesign as a standard practise ;D

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Re: silly question - i ought to know!
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2007, 11:28:04 AM »
jezza - no mate it's a question thats popped up - i've maintained that from quark the next step is postscript - whatever you do.

you've confimed I was right (see - i was just checking all along :-[)

postscript=screwed transparency from quark in some cases (not all - i guess it can work).

here's another question - which, in your opinion(s), creates a better pdf from quark - an exported via jaws pdf, or a postscript and distilled pdf?

or is there no difference?

My Nexus RIP prefers they be printed to ps and distilled. If you export directly from Quark our RIP picks out random pieces of text and throws them away.
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Re: silly question - i ought to know!
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2007, 01:01:35 PM »
I use JAWS from Quack 99% of the time. The other 1% I use the old Kodak/Creo PXT 4.5.xnt extension to write the postscript and distill that. Why? DCS2.0. Quack converts them to 4/c if you use any other method. RAMPage has no issues with these PDF's but all PDF's get placed in InDesign and are refryed to PDF from there, so that may be why I see no issues using direct export.
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