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Topic: Retrospect revisited (Read 8853 times) previous topic - next topic

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Re: Retrospect revisited
Reply #30
We live in totally different worlds F-Bomb. :laugh:
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Re: Retrospect revisited
Reply #31

My favorite is the when people keep all their backups sitting in a cardboard box in the server room. Better pray you never have a fire or a flood.


This place did until about a month ago. I had been after them for a year and a half to get a safe or take backups offsite. One fire and there goes prepress!
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So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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Re: Retrospect revisited
Reply #32

We live in totally different worlds F-Bomb. :laugh:


Trust me man, I know it. I'm only going in what my experiences are.

So, now proof that Oklahoma is a different world.  :laugh:
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Re: Retrospect revisited
Reply #33


We live in totally different worlds F-Bomb. :laugh:


Trust me man, I know it. I'm only going in what my experiences are.

So, now proof that Oklahoma is a different world.  :laugh:


I know, brother, I know. I believe we have had this conversation before, no? :laugh:
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Re: Retrospect revisited
Reply #34
Yup, and probably won't be the last time either.
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Re: Retrospect revisited
Reply #35

In all my years I've had many optical disks go bad. Mishandle them and scratch the top surface and it's toast, scratch the bottom and maybe you can polish it back onto working. They are made cheaply and I've seen them delaminate in a climate controlled room. Keep a HDD in a not well ventilated enclosure or even case and watch it die. Turn it on only when needed and keep it cool and happy and it will live a long life. Drop it while it's off and it will probably survive. Hell, get a HDD dock and use internal drives and swap the out when full. Better option than external drives becasue you won't forget to shut it off. Pull the drive and park it on a shelf.

Iirc Zip and Jazz were magnetic, not optical.


Ditto1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Optical disk reliability is just slightly better then floppies.

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Re: Retrospect revisited
Reply #36


In all my years I've had many optical disks go bad. Mishandle them and scratch the top surface and it's toast, scratch the bottom and maybe you can polish it back onto working. They are made cheaply and I've seen them delaminate in a climate controlled room. Keep a HDD in a not well ventilated enclosure or even case and watch it die. Turn it on only when needed and keep it cool and happy and it will live a long life. Drop it while it's off and it will probably survive. Hell, get a HDD dock and use internal drives and swap the out when full. Better option than external drives becasue you won't forget to shut it off. Pull the drive and park it on a shelf.

Iirc Zip and Jazz were magnetic, not optical.


Ditto1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Optical disk reliability is just slightly better then floppies.

Hi DCS. :hello:


Hey Joe. :hello: Where you goin' with that gun of your hand?

Oh yeah, and YOU'RE WRONG! :laugh: You can say whatever you want with your clicking HDs that you have to triple back-up for redundancy. JUST IN CASE. :tongue:
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Re: Retrospect revisited
Reply #37



In all my years I've had many optical disks go bad. Mishandle them and scratch the top surface and it's toast, scratch the bottom and maybe you can polish it back onto working. They are made cheaply and I've seen them delaminate in a climate controlled room. Keep a HDD in a not well ventilated enclosure or even case and watch it die. Turn it on only when needed and keep it cool and happy and it will live a long life. Drop it while it's off and it will probably survive. Hell, get a HDD dock and use internal drives and swap the out when full. Better option than external drives becasue you won't forget to shut it off. Pull the drive and park it on a shelf.

Iirc Zip and Jazz were magnetic, not optical.


Ditto1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Optical disk reliability is just slightly better then floppies.

Hi DCS. :hello:


Hey Joe. :hello: Where you goin' with that gun of your hand?

Oh yeah, and YOU'RE WRONG! :laugh: You can say whatever you want with your clicking HDs that you have to triple back-up for redundancy. JUST IN CASE. :tongue:


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Re: Retrospect revisited
Reply #38
Huh hey hoe, I heard you shot your mamma down.
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Re: Retrospect revisited
Reply #39
She believed optical disks are more reliable than hard drives. :tongue:
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Re: Retrospect revisited
Reply #40
Good ole Grammy. She liked me better then Claude.

Too bad the machine that kept her alive after you violently gunned her down started clicking.
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Re: Retrospect revisited
Reply #41

My favorite is the when people keep all their backups sitting in a cardboard box in the server room. Better pray you never have a fire or a flood.

Greg

I just realized something. We have a "fire-proofed" server room - special doors, walls, etc. None of our back-ups are stored in there, but what really concerns me is that I just noticed last week that it has that crappy tiled drop-ceiling & there's some kind of leak that developed above it & some of the tiles are discolored & sagging. If it's supposed to be an environmentally sealed room, a fire in the shop nearby could easily travel across the roof, set fire to that room's ceiling or collapse it, etc.

Some times the sheer ignorance in this place leaves me stunned.
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Re: Retrospect revisited
Reply #42
To be honest, if my work place burns down I could give a crap if I have backups or not.
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Re: Retrospect revisited
Reply #43

To be honest, if my work place burns down I could give a crap if I have backups or not.


Amen Brother.
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Re: Retrospect revisited
Reply #44
If it was a 2TB SSD I'd probably feel safe with archiving permanently to that... but for long term, I still like going cheaper with blu-ray and burning redundant copies. In reality, they only have to last me a few years before the art gets updated and/or replaced and becomes obsolete. I rarely pull a job from more than 5 years ago.
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