Hey everybody!

Had a client today, asking me to print 150 sheet A6 size with a serial number one it - 001 to 150. So I took his original PDF, placed it into Indy, put a page number on top of it and made a new PDF from it. New PDF looks fine, but as soon as I did the imposition for 4-up print, the inner frame moved its position. The outer frame and the page number all remain at the same position.

I've tried to delete all the other stuff around, no result. Tried to refry the PDF, no result. Tried to place with and without transparent background and played with different export options, still no change. Opened in Illy, tried to delete the other stuff around, resize the page to proper size, place it again into Indy, export a new PDF, still the same result.

Does anybody have an idea what's going on with this file? I'd be happy about any advice! Using CS6 and Quite Imposing 1.6 with Acrobat 8.

I've shortened the file "Exported PDF" to 20 pages because of size limit for attached files, by the way. 

Thanks in advance!

I don't see the change?

Looks like you took the 1-up file and made it 4-up with quite imposing
so it would make the sheet size the same size as the amount stepped
not sure if your final sheet size was the issue, not seeing a difference
in the image, but probably missing something.

I think I know what your saying, your cust file is 8.5x11
I think if you just print it to 8.5x11 it will then look the same

Yeah I'm not sure about this either from the files posted. The file you named "Original file.pdf" looks to be an imposed file instead of a 1-up file while the one named "Exported_PDF.pdf" is a 1-up file with page numbers then you have a file named "Imposed_PDF.pdf" that is an imposed file with page numbers but the size of the document is different than the file named "Original file.pdf" that I assume is the imposed file of the original pages without the page numbers. Why are they different size in the overall dimensions?

Probably too late to be affective, but I did notice that your exported file had a whole bunch of extra stuff still showing from the original 4up file.  I copied and pasted just the upper right image to an entirely new document and removed anything that didn't look like it belonged.  Since I can't figure out how to attach a file, here is a dropbox link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ovi7zwjna3bgcdb/OriginalOneUpClean.pdf?dl=0

Sorry guys, I didn't make it understandable enough. 
The client has sent me the file "Original file.pdf", which he originally tried to create himself with the serial numbers typed already on it. He probably figured out that this would be too much work (it's supposed to be an ongoing thing with the first 150 sheet yesterday), so he asked me to help him. That's why his original file is already imposed 4-up.

Actually I've told him to send me the file as a 1-up PDF in the size, that he wanted it to be after it's been cut. But of course, as you all know, a client will eventually give a sh*& on what you tell him, so I got this crappy 4-up file.

So I took this file, placed it into Indy, resized it and put the serial number on it. Then exported a new 1-up PDF for imposition, "Exported_PDF.pdf". This one I've imposed 4-up, the file "Imposed_PDF.pdf". As you can see, the inner frame in each of the 4 parts is moving. I've also attached a screenshot to make it more clear. He wanted all four steps to be like "001", but they are all different. 

Quote from: PrepressCrapFixer on May 20, 2015, 02:16:19 PMProbably too late to be affective, but I did notice that your exported file had a whole bunch of extra stuff still showing from the original 4up file.  I copied and pasted just the upper right image to an entirely new document and removed anything that didn't look like it belonged.  Since I can't figure out how to attach a file, here is a dropbox link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ovi7zwjna3bgcdb/OriginalOneUpClean.pdf?dl=0

PrepressCrapFixer, thank you for your help! I've tried that way, too. But even then the file still won't impose properly. I took the file that you've prepared and imposed it for the attached screenshot, you can have a look. I've even tried to impose only the PDF without page numbers, still the same problem.

Oh, and it makes no difference, if I impose 4-up or do a step and repeat, it's still the same problem. I've tried that, too.

I dunno. I either fail to understand or am not seeing what you are talking about. The pages are a different size in the imposed PDF but you said you resized it when making the exported PDF and then the spacing looks different in the Imposed PDF from the original PDF but all the content looks the same other than the size being different. Not sure what your screen shot is supposed to be pointing out either. But I'm sure it is just me misunderstanding something. :laugh:

Joe, have a look at the screenshot. Do you see the two frames around the text? The outer frame is always in the same place, but the inner frame is changing its position. It's supposed to be like 001. But at 002 it runs right vertically through the center of the text, in 003 it separates the text horizontally and in 004 it runs through both vertical and horizontal.

Don't think about sizes or spacings.

OK but it is not that way in the imposed PDF you posted earlier which is why I wasn't sure what your screenshot was for. That screenshot is completely different than the file named "Imposed_PDF.pdf".

It's the same... I've just added a green tick and three red circles to make the problem more visible... Could you post a screen shot of how you see the file "Imposed_PDF.pdf"? Maybe my computer is not working as it should, that's why I try to figure out where the problem has it's origin.

First image is what "Imposed_PDF.pdf" looks like to me.

Second image is your screenshot.

Oh, this is creepy. Because my computer (and all the other computers around here) shows the "Imposed_PDF" just the way you see it on the screenshot - without the colored remarks. Your screenshot shows the PDF is actually imposed properly. I've just placed the imposed file into Indy and yes, it looks good there, too.

I guess it's just a problem between Acrobat 8 and Quite Imposing.

But now I understand why you all didn't see what's wrong! Sorry guys... But thanks to everybody for your help!

Quote from: Made in Taiwan on May 20, 2015, 11:01:08 PMOh, this is creepy. Because my computer (and all the other computers around here) shows the "Imposed_PDF" just the way you see it on the screenshot - without the colored remarks. Your screenshot shows the PDF is actually imposed properly. I've just placed the imposed file into Indy and yes, it looks good there, too.

I guess it's just a problem between Acrobat 8 and Quite Imposing.

But now I understand why you all didn't see what's wrong! Sorry guys... But thanks to everybody for your help!

I'll bet right there ( Acrobat 8 ) is the problem. That version of Acrobat is quite old (released November 2006) while the PDF is a CS6 PDF (CS6 was released in May 2012) so I can see Acrobat 8 not displaying things correctly from PDF versions that are newer than it is. If you have a later version of Acrobat or even download a new version of Acrobat Reader I'll bet it will display OK for you in it.

Yeah, I just downloaded the Acrobat Reader DC and tried it, looks like it should. So the problem is Acro 8. Or, let me say, problem is the boss who doesn't want to spend any money to upgrade anything.

Thanks again for your help, Joe!

But think of all the money he is saving by having jobs held up and driving his workers nuts and not upgrading the software that makes him money.

aha!  :laugh: