B4Print.com

Operating Systems => Windows => Topic started by: Possum on May 04, 2021, 02:01:03 PM

Title: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: Possum on May 04, 2021, 02:01:03 PM
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/microsoft-will-remove-adobe-flash-from-windows-10-this-summer/

There's a Flash killer available.
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: David on May 04, 2021, 02:17:03 PM
Quote...and when you're done, you can celebrate by safely playing an emulated Flash game hosted at the always-wonderful Internet Archive.


Tip O the Day!

:lmao:
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: scottrsimons on May 05, 2021, 05:38:31 AM
Just think of all the software that is actually still using Flash. So the people will be hanging onto Windows 8 & 7 forever! Just to run that one piece of software. Who cares about security. I can think of one for sure...USPS verification software that our Mailing department uses everyday. Hum, I wonder what we will be doing....
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: Joe on May 05, 2021, 06:16:31 AM
Eventually those computers will die. Many of our bindery and press equipment are using old hardware running old software but not necessarily flash. For example a bindery line had a hard drive that will no longer boot but I can access the drive that has Windows XP and my latest nightmare was getting a new IDE hard drive for it installing XP. Tip: Windows XP servers are no longer running so you can't activate it either online or via a phone call to Microsoft. I did find a registry hack around that but now I'm trying to copy the old software from the old hard drive to the new hard drive and make it run because we have no installer disks for that software. Still fighting that battle daily.
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: scottrsimons on May 05, 2021, 06:20:56 AM
Joe, your horror story made me shudder in FEAR!!!  :shoots_self:
I will pray for you.
I think I still have some IDE drives laying around I could send you. Although I would need to clean them off first. Probably some as large as 20GB (maybe).
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: Joe on May 05, 2021, 06:35:26 AM
Not a fan of used hard drives. I have a few around at work but they were removed for a reason so I don't attempt to re-use them. Found a 40 GB IDE drive for $32.99 on newegg.com. XP installed and activated by the registry hack, Software folders copied. Try running said software and then you start getting errors for missing .ocx, and dll files. Once you find them on the old hard drive and then copy them to the proper location then you get the error that they are not registered in the system so you have to then start manually registering them. And then they still don't work because the software is missing registry settings in the Windows registry database. So then you have to try fixing those. So far I can now launch the bindery software and it runs but doesn't work because the Rockwell software that makes it work won't run so now I'm trying to ge the Rockwell software to run. How much of this sounds like prepress?
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: scottrsimons on May 05, 2021, 06:39:10 AM
Well from my job, it all sounds like Prepress to me. Well at least for me, not anyone else it Prepress.
And I'm not a fan of used HDs, I stay away from them like the plague. Just throwing it out there, in case you were that sort a desperate. I know, I've been a time or two.
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: Joe on May 05, 2021, 06:46:57 AM
It would actually help me if I couldn't find the IDE drive. Then they would be forced to do something better. Like buy a new PC with software that will run on a new pc. :rotf:
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: DigiCorn on May 05, 2021, 10:42:26 AM
IIRC, I remember a drive dying on our old Rampage machine and it was a SCSI hard drive. Took me a while, but I found one locally to replace and build the server with. There's actually a few places around town here that sell antiquated computer parts.
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: born2print on May 05, 2021, 10:50:15 AM
We still have some "fast-wide" SCSI cables dangling from some network poles... so old I can't remember when we we using that. Also have a couple of DAT (and DLT!) drives that are SCSI but the data is so old I really could... or should just "terminate" it all (hahahah SCSI pun intended).
But I'm a packrat and unless it's 101% useless - I have trouble letting go. It's not hurting anything sitting there.
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: DigiCorn on May 05, 2021, 11:32:33 AM
I literally have a bin of shiznit I will probably never use again... of brand new in-the-bag stuff... like IDE ribbon cables, phone line, firewire cables, a Palm Pilot, an .mp3 player, flash drives that are like 16mb, a tv tuner video card (with no supported drivers above XP), an external DVD burner with light-scribe, etc. But for some reason, I can't throw any of it away. I also, inexplicably, have an internal PCI-e card with 2 SATA ports on it... I can't remember the reason behind this purchase... I guess I must have had an issue one time where I needed to add more drives? But then removed the card for some reason... maybe upgraded the motherboard?
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: Skryber on May 05, 2021, 11:36:11 AM
My spare bedroom closet was my parts collector and it was filled balls to the wall. Last year I got rid of almost everything. Technology goes obsolete very quickly these days.
I met a guy who went nuts with nostalgia for my jellybean Mac. I ended up giving him that.
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: Joe on May 05, 2021, 11:36:14 AM
My server room looks like a prepress museum. There are days I'd like to open the door and toss a hand grenade in there.
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: Skryber on May 05, 2021, 11:37:41 AM
Quote from: Joe on May 05, 2021, 11:36:14 AM
My server room looks like a prepress museum. There are days I'd like to open the door and toss a hand grenade in there.

You should!
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: Joe on May 05, 2021, 11:40:00 AM
Quote from: Skryber on May 05, 2021, 11:36:11 AM
My spare bedroom closet was my parts collector and it was filled balls to the wall. Last year I got rid of almost everything. Technology goes obsolete very quickly these days.
I met a guy who went nuts with nostalgia for my jellybean Mac. I ended up giving him that.

Color iMacs are the new cool. Newest model is 24" with the M1 chip. Fast and Furious. Preorder today!
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: Joe on May 05, 2021, 11:40:49 AM
Quote from: Skryber on May 05, 2021, 11:37:41 AM
Quote from: Joe on May 05, 2021, 11:36:14 AM
My server room looks like a prepress museum. There are days I'd like to open the door and toss a hand grenade in there.

You should!

The only thing stopping me is I am all out of hand grenades.
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: Skryber on May 05, 2021, 12:16:43 PM
Quote from: Joe on May 05, 2021, 11:40:00 AM
Quote from: Skryber on May 05, 2021, 11:36:11 AM
My spare bedroom closet was my parts collector and it was filled balls to the wall. Last year I got rid of almost everything. Technology goes obsolete very quickly these days.
I met a guy who went nuts with nostalgia for my jellybean Mac. I ended up giving him that.

Color iMacs are the new cool. Newest model is 24" with the M1 chip. Fast and Furious. Preorder today!

My jellybean was the boring grey DV special.
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: Tracy on May 05, 2021, 12:20:32 PM
 :laugh: I had the blue one, Indigo?
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: Joe on May 05, 2021, 12:29:02 PM
Quote from: Tracy on May 05, 2021, 12:20:32 PM
:laugh: I had the blue one, Indigo?

We had 2 of those and for some reason 1 orange and 1 purple.
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: scottrsimons on May 06, 2021, 06:01:58 AM
Now that Apple is releasing colored iMacs, and with non-Intel processors, I'm waiting for Power Computing to make a come back.
(https://i2.wp.com/sixcolors.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/power_computing_sluggo.jpeg?ssl=1)BTW, I ran across an internal 4 port USB-1 card for Mac. Along with some IDE and SCSI ribbon cables the other day. I've been slowly letting things go...to the trash. It's so hard to do.
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: Joe on May 06, 2021, 07:20:54 AM
Are we sure SCSI isn't making a comeback? :rotf:
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: Skryber on May 06, 2021, 07:42:59 AM
Quote from: Joe on May 06, 2021, 07:20:54 AM
Are we sure SCSI isn't making a comeback? :rotf:

Don't be knocking the SCSI!
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: David on May 06, 2021, 07:51:47 AM
where do I plug in?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/SCSI2-50pin.JPG)
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: Joe on May 06, 2021, 07:56:26 AM
Quote from: david on May 06, 2021, 07:51:47 AMwhere do I plug in?

1990?
Title: Re: Flash is dead, dead I tell you.
Post by: David on May 06, 2021, 08:14:19 AM
here we go...