Quote from: baker7 on May 17, 2016, 03:23:52 PMYeah, I feel like I'm back to square one. Giving it more thought I'm not sure how the color server could remedy this issue.. maybe I'm still confused with our's and new clients' digital printer profiles and our press plate profile. I don't think anyone uses RGB in the garment industry as CMYK seems to be the standard.
My question about RGB was to help determine what profile you are using.
Quote from: baker7 on May 17, 2016, 03:23:52 PMThe problem we're having is mutoh output is very different from Press machine (Akiyama) output for our new customers. Also their digital sample sheet they give us (which we heatpress onto fabric) is richer and more intense in color than from what we print out on our Mutoh.. (different profile and different ink) of the same Tiff img.
It's not uncommon for one press to have a larger color gamut (range of colors a device can reproduce) than another. Are the jobs printed on each press related or independent? If they are related, you need to take the smaller gamut as use that as your output profile. You won't be maximing the larger color gamut, but you'll be making sure that you convert images to a CMYK that is reproducible on both presses. If the jobs are independent, you can optimize them for each press.
Quote from: baker7 on May 17, 2016, 03:23:52 PMSo the profile that you're talking about seems like a universal standard profile.. now that I think about it some more, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think that'll help my situation as I would ultimately need the digital printer profile and ink they used so that it would come out the same on our digital printer. Also translating the accuracy of changes in colors onto the press plates is the other problem we're having.
If you fingerprint your presses, you can try supplying your new ICC press profile to the customer. This way they will design their output within the color gamut of your device.
Quote from: baker7 on May 17, 2016, 03:23:52 PMOur existing clients' jobs are still dead on accurate even when we make changes to the image (via photoshop) it duplicates it perfectly on both Mutoh and press plates. For our new customers I just don't understand why making changes to the image files print fine from Mutoh but when we make the plates it's all jacked up. In such a case would we have to make new plate curve for each of our new clients and use accordingly? Man that seems like an expensive job.
Something's not right. What profile are the existing client's using when they create jobs for you? What are the color settings in Illustrator or whatever application they are designing the artwork in?
Quote from: baker7 on May 17, 2016, 03:23:52 PMOne last thing, before I got here they were on Brisque and the computer it was on broke. I don't know why they didn't replace it with the same program but the tech we flew in from Ohio replaced it with Prinergy (Harmony) and took with him the hard drive Brisque was on. Ever since then they started having all sorts of issues with color matching. From what my boss tells me everything was accurate and the changes to image files would duplicate itself perfectly on the Akiyama. Never an issue. He said to get the profile curve and linear curve on the Akiyama sorted out they called in a professional 3 different times.
I don't know what else to do or what to actually do.. this seems like it's beyond my knowledge and capability. He wants me to fix it but if a professional color guy can't remedy this what the hell can i do?
There are a lot of variables to deal with. If they changed inks or papers in the press room, that could result in changes in the output. You really should consider having a color consultant come in.