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Kodak Ink Eater Mark

Started by johnny_jay, August 04, 2023, 09:45:39 AM

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johnny_jay

Anyone have any real world experience with this?

We have a project it may help us on and Kodak's help is vague.

Thanks in advance!

John
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born2print

we make a bar in Preps, does that help?
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David

for sheetfed presses we used what we called "take off" bars.
Generally about 1/4 " tall (could be taller if you have the room), and as wide as the entire printed image on the sheet.
It's just a rectangle filled with color. Fill it with whatever color is used the least to help remove excess ink.
We put these above or below the color bar on the sheet.


YMMV

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hope this is what you're talking about
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David

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Joe

We just created rectangles out on the ends of the plates. 50% all colors. Width depended on web size. The bigger the web size the smaller the width.
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born2print

Quote from: David on August 04, 2023, 10:58:14 AMfor sheetfed presses we used what we called "take off" bars.
Generally about 1/4 " tall (could be taller if you have the room), and as wide as the entire printed image on the sheet.
It's just a rectangle filled with color. Fill it with whatever color is used the least to help remove excess ink.
We put these above or below the color bar on the sheet.


YMMV

8)

hope this is what you're talking about
yeah that. sometimes 1/2" tall. Usually 100% of the color.
Be nice to America or we'll bring democracy to your country.

johnny_jay

We normally add take off bars of various sizes when needed but we have a cover that runs weekly that is being problematic, wanted to try the Ink Eater. It is supposed to evaluate on coverage  and I wanted to see if it would help.
Kodak Prinergy and InSite
Preps
Epson P7000 driven by Fiery XF
Screen 16000N
Screen R36000ZX
3 web presses, 1 sheetfed press
G7 Expert

born2print

OH! I never thought of an automated way, good luck and please report back if you have any luck #interesting
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johnny_jay

I will report back, swamped for a spell so not sure how long.

The kodak "help" says to place the variable on a pdf mark and place taht in preps - seems odd but I'll give it a go.

Thanks everyone for your time! I lurk way more than I post, lol.
Kodak Prinergy and InSite
Preps
Epson P7000 driven by Fiery XF
Screen 16000N
Screen R36000ZX
3 web presses, 1 sheetfed press
G7 Expert

DigiCorn

Is the Kodak user forum still around? I forget what it was called, but maybe some user hanging around can help out...
I don't feel tardy...

scottrsimons

Kodak forum is still around and it's called the GUA forums. https://mygua.vbulletin.net/index.php
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johnny_jay

Great Point DigiCorn and Scott, I am a member there as well. 

Thanks!

John
Kodak Prinergy and InSite
Preps
Epson P7000 driven by Fiery XF
Screen 16000N
Screen R36000ZX
3 web presses, 1 sheetfed press
G7 Expert

DigiCorn

GUA - that's the one! I haven't been on there since 2016...
I don't feel tardy...

Joe

Quote from: DigiCorn on August 09, 2023, 11:33:41 PMGUA - that's the one! I haven't been on there since 2016...
You probably haven't missed many posts. ;D
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johnny_jay

Had time to get the mark to work as I wanted. What threw me off was my own fault, needed to read the info better. I was working the start and end points off the sheet but it's off the plate.

Going to try it on the job that has been giving fits.Will adjust the min density and max saturation as needed.

I never did try the GUA, rather hang with the cool kids here.

Thanks!

John
Kodak Prinergy and InSite
Preps
Epson P7000 driven by Fiery XF
Screen 16000N
Screen R36000ZX
3 web presses, 1 sheetfed press
G7 Expert