Plate order from Apogee 7

[dledbetter]

Anyone having any issues with plates plating out of order?

We moved to Apogee 7 and with this lost printdrive (didn't like that from the get go!) we now make plates out of Apogee vs printdrive and the plates come out in random order, should plate sig 1f-1b, 2f-2b, 3f-3b etc... what I am getting is sig 1f-3b, 4f-1b, etc... if I select the sigs one at a time(vs select all) and give them the thumbs up one at a time they will output in order, if I change the collect for output to job they will output in order, but when you use job in the collect for output and you need to remake one plate you have to re-edit the job and change the collect for output to separations or it would plate the entire job wth!?! all I'm am trying to do is use select all, have the plates output in order, and be able to re-image a single plate if needed with out reprocessing or re-editing the job.


Thanks for any input you might have,

-Dan     

[David]

maybe it's outputting in the order that they RIP in, like smaller files first, etc.

[DCurry]

I"m on Apogee 6, but it should be pretty much the same. I have it grouped by Separation in the first place. Then, when I need to re-image a plate, I right-click on the plate I need and choose Re-render Separation. When it is done re-rendering, I select the separation and give it the Thumbs Up to proceed making the plate.


As for the output order, I don't usually queue up more than 1 form at a time in case someone comes in with an emergency and needs a plate for another job, so I can't help you there. I'm pretty sure it runs them in the correct order, though.

[dledbetter]

David - Yes it renders the flats out of order, always had but with printdrive it was not an issue.

Dan - I have the keep on the render so I can remake a plate. I always send the entire job and I use the rush job feature to interrupt and make a quick job. I'm att: a pic of our basic flow see the 3rd radio button in the collect tab, if they added a 4th one that was (manually when all groups are complete, in order) this would do the trick.   

[DCurry]

Dan - I have the keep on the render so I can remake a plate.

I'll have to see if I can do that, too, though I think that might be a payable option that we didn't get. I've only been using it for a year and am still trying to understand some of Apogee's terminology and "way of thinking." It's not the most user-friendly workflow to set up and work with (Prinergy, anyone?)

[Farabomb]

My prinergy will mix up all the sigs when I send a multiple form job to the CAT as well. I will agree that printdrive had much better control.

[Joe]

My prinergy will mix up all the sigs when I send a multiple form job to the CAT as well. I will agree that printdrive had much better control.

I think that is because the server is a multi-core processor and it processes more than one file at a time. Naturally smaller files will get done first.

[Farabomb]

It's not the end of the world, I just sort them at the tiff bucket and release what I need. Simple enough that a pressman can do it.

[dledbetter]

You know I seem to get from Agfa that I am the only one complaining about plates out of order and they are baffled that no one else complains about it.

One of the biggest problems I have with this is that we do a large catalog run 3 times a year 200,000 - 600,000 minimum each time. These are time crunch jobs, we run the covers(4-20 versions) and than imprint them, were talking 300 - 700 imprints 1 - 4 spots each. I can't have this come out in just any order it already takes to much time to proof and check all the plates as it is now as is I will have to check off the sigs one at a time to get them in order.

I miss printdrive     

[gnubler]

It's not the end of the world

Damn, I thought we were close. I was starting to get excited.

[Farabomb]

It's not the end of the world yet.

I understand the complaint. When I was running an apogee system through printdrive I could set the order of the plates and run a whole box through and get exactly what I want. Remember, the new workflows make our job eaiser says all the salesmen. Like they have ever done prepress in their life.

[dledbetter]

Yeah I'm going backwards instead of forward as far as I'm concerned

[Farabomb]

Yup, thought the same when we got Prinergy. Far more keystrokes to do the same damn thing but it's "progress".

[DigiCorn]

It's not the end of the world

Damn, I thought we were close. I was starting to get excited.

The ball is rolling. Civil unrest in the muslim world, uncontrollable radiation from Japan, and 2012 is rapidly approaching.

[gnubler]

You forgot to mention peak oil, water wars, and 7 billion humans scampering around. Doomed.