Anything above version 9 blows. Takes down my computer every time. Mac, Windows, top-o-the-line hardware, full moon, drinking vs sober...doesn't matter.
You lost me at CS, Adobe. :banghead:
Here's what happens when I try to open a 700Kb AI file. Total lockup. Force quit. Not showing up in my running applications. Won't relaunch.
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee269/gnubler/b4print/illy-sux.jpg)
Windows stinks, too, but that's another story.
Okay, Windows right? XP? Version of Illy? By force quit you mean CTRL+ALT+DELETE bringing up the task manager and from there it is not listed in your list of running applications?
Excuse me - I'd love to stay and chat but I have to RESTART my computer. AGAIN. Bye!
Quote from: Joe on April 09, 2009, 11:22:08 AMOkay, Windows right? XP? Version of Illy? By force quit you mean CTRL+ALT+DELETE bringing up the task manager and from there it is not listed in your list of running applications?
That's right. WinXP, Illy CS1 (v.11)
I get similar shit at home on a 2 year old MacBook Pro running 10.4.11. I can be running InDesign, PS, and a host of other apps...the moment I fire up Illy everything DIES.
Try disabling as many fonts as possible. Illustrator can do this if it tries to load a corrupt font.
I'm super stingy and organized with fonts. Usually have the bare minimum activated, whatever I need for the current project.
Illy is evil? its my FAVORITE app!
my illy cs2 will dissapear from the taskbar/program manager from time to time, but when i relaunch it comes back instantly.
its all those heroturko files your messing with. I see one in your screen capture right now. theyre all infected i tell you, ALL!
No, my friend. This Illy evilness has been going on long before I discovered Hero. Same crap.
And I *love* Illy too. It's my graphic app of choice. Or was. Hello, Inkscape!
Try holding down CONTROL+SHIFT+ALT while Illy opens to zap your AI preferences. When it asks if you want to delete all of your settings click yes.
I'll keep that in mind. Doesn't help me when it's taken down the entire computer and won't relaunch, splash screen just sitting there stupidly. Only a complete restart can fix that.
YES, Illustrator is the DEVIL!
It's the only Adobe App that I haven't been able to just learn "on the fly" ... because it's evil! :evil: Burn it, BURN it! Drive a dot matrix printer through its heart! :evil:
Quote from: gnubler on April 09, 2009, 11:48:11 AMI'll keep that in mind. Doesn't help me when it's taken down the entire computer and won't relaunch, splash screen just sitting there stupidly. Only a complete restart can fix that.
So holding down CONTROL+SHIFT+ALT didn't get you to point where it asks if you want to delete your settings (preferences)?
Also when you launch it pay attention to the splash screen. It will tell you what it is doing as it starts. Find out what it is trying to load (fonts, plug-ins, etc...) when it locks up.
Here we go again. Anyone ever run Action batches in Illy? Just ran a batch, flew right through it, then Illy just sat there like a retard. No response. Wouldn't quit. Finally it just died, killed itself.
Now I'll try Joe's suggestion when I relaunch it.
Quote from: gnubler on April 09, 2009, 12:12:35 PMHere we go again. Anyone ever run Action batches in Illy? Just ran a batch, flew right through it, then Illy just sat there like a retard. No response. Wouldn't quit. Finally it just died, killed itself.
Now I'll try Joe's suggestion when I relaunch it.
What? I thought it wouldn't start? :tongue:
I remember there was a deal with a symbol that would crash Illy. Look in you symbols pallet and see if you have the handicap symbol (the wheelchair thingie), delete/remove that and see if it doesn't fix your lockups.
worth a shot...
or use FREEHAND!!!
:kiss:
Quote from: david on April 09, 2009, 12:22:32 PMI remember there was a deal with a symbol that would crash Illy. Look in you symbols pallet and see if you have the handicap symbol (the wheelchair thingie), delete/remove that and see if it doesn't fix your lockups.
worth a shot...
or use FREEHAND!!!
:kiss:
Nope, empty palette. I never use Symbols.
RACIST! Adobe is anti-handicapped people!! That's crap. I hope their CEO falls off his horse and ends up paraplegic. :sleepy:
okay...
try this:
1. Start Illustrator.
2. Deselect Appearance from the Window menu.
3. Quit and restart Illustrator.
Note: You can show the Appearance palette after you have restarted Illustrator. The adverse behavior may re-appear in subsequent working sessions and you may have to repeat
Will try that, Margarita Man. Thanks. Is this a "feature" for both Mac & Win?
And WHY can I not save a workspace in Illy? InDesign - yes. PS - yes. Illy? Nope. Always having to reshuffle palettes.
I had a big problem with illy on pc, i had to trash pres in in doc/settings
(computer name)/application data/adobe/illustrator
oh and my application data folder was hidden, took me awhile to figure that out.
but you prolly know all this, just my 2cents :tongue:
did you look behind your desk?
Like Tracy said, try:
DocumentsandSettings\user\Application Data\Adobe\Adobe\ Illustrator CS Settings and erase everything inside the folder
restart and see if that works
Illy CS was such a dog and I removed it soon after I installed it. Used 10 for a while till CS2 came out. Now I love CS2, never had a single issue with it. Same with CS3 and 4 though I seldom use those because I hate the new pallets.
oh, and spin a headless chicken over your head and chant the words...
Big G, little O, Go! Go!
Quote from: david on April 09, 2009, 02:10:55 PMoh, and spin a headless chicken over your head and chant the words...
Big G, little O, Go! Go!
Actually, I've tried different variations: sitting here naked, standing on one foot, closing my eyes without peeking while Illy starts up, etc. Nothing.
you mean standing on one foot didn't work!?
always works for me...
you prolly used the wrong foot.
have you tried the "trash your prefs" dance, yet?
I may be wrong, but aren't you guys forgetting the "by the light of a full moon" part of the tech fix?
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
i say please 3 times while starting
The "please please please" and holding my breath doesn't work either. I've tried all those little tricks. :banghead:
THE FINAL SOLUTION:
(http://knowledge.allianz.com/nopi_downloads/images/shutterstock_gun-monitor_za.jpg)
No. This:
(http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/internetguide_files/computerthrowur62.jpg)
Letterman been at it again has he???
Quote from: Foozball on April 09, 2009, 12:01:12 PMYES, Illustrator is the DEVIL!
It's the only Adobe App that I haven't been able to just learn "on the fly" ... because it's evil! :evil: Burn it, BURN it! Drive a dot matrix printer through its heart! :evil:
It certainly isn't as intuitive as Photoshop when it comes to learning it. I really don't like using it, I guess that's why I don't know it that well. If I enjoy using a program I dive right in and learn as much as I can about it. Using Illustrator seems like torture to me so it's hard to get excited about learning it.
illy cs3 is my app of choice
i think you need to clean your cache from safari
stop farting at the poor peas
delete prefs
double check for corrupt fonts <however few you have>
see if a fonts folder inside the illy folder is corrupt
i see people re-installing quite a lot on here - ok i'm mac based, but i havent had to reinstall software for ages - i mean years.
i always find its some system thing
is there some magic like the fsck voodoo on the macs?
Quote from: beermonster on April 09, 2009, 04:39:42 PMilly cs3 is my app of choice
i think you need to clean your cache from safari
stop farting at the poor peas
delete prefs
double check for corrupt fonts <however few you have>
see if a fonts folder inside the illy folder is corrupt
i see people re-installing quite a lot on here - ok i'm mac based, but i havent had to reinstall software for ages - i mean years.
i always find its some system thing
is there some magic like the fsck voodoo on the macs?
Ditto to the monster.
joe i think thats twice in one day you've agreed wit me, and i think this has to stop. i mean i'd never have a roll like that so i respectfully request this stops
Quote from: ratintrap on April 09, 2009, 04:32:39 PMQuote from: Foozball on April 09, 2009, 12:01:12 PMYES, Illustrator is the DEVIL!
It's the only Adobe App that I haven't been able to just learn "on the fly" ... because it's evil! :evil: Burn it, BURN it! Drive a dot matrix printer through its heart! :evil:
It certainly isn't as intuitive as Photoshop when it comes to learning it. I really don't like using it, I guess that's why I don't know it that well. If I enjoy using a program I dive right in and learn as much as I can about it. Using Illustrator seems like torture to me so it's hard to get excited about learning it.
way back before this was a 'real job" - i uesd to be a photoshop junkie, HATED illy.. i guess it grew on me.. now i feel like a ninja with illy and ps at my disposal.. now Indesign.. i resisted that application with everything. im comfortable in it now, but i stills got some learnin' to do..
Quote from: beermonster on April 09, 2009, 04:46:36 PMjoe i think thats twice in one day you've agreed wit me, and i think this has to stop. i mean i'd never have a roll like that so i respectfully request this stops
Well then you are just going to have to stop posting good information! :tongue:
:tongue:
it had to happen one day i spose :toaster:
Quote from: Joe on April 09, 2009, 04:58:01 PMQuote from: beermonster on April 09, 2009, 04:46:36 PMjoe i think thats twice in one day you've agreed wit me, and i think this has to stop. i mean i'd never have a roll like that so i respectfully request this stops
Well then you are just going to have to stop posting good information! :tongue:
beer and gnubler are in cahoots...just trying to confuse us. All will return to "normal" after Easter, I'm sure.
Just on this "Illy is too difficult" thing. There's a pattern here. People either love it or hate it. But all we're looking at is people who haven't made the leap from one group to the other yet.
I'm getting the feeling myself, because it's just starting to gel for me.
I've found these free Flash tutes invaluable. Have been jumping back in again lately.
Adobe videos (http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/video_workshop/)
Go to "Select a Product">Illy, then select whatever topic...from crawl to moderate-running level.
...oh, and one of the best tips from beer I ever got. When you open an Illy doc, go Cmd+Opt+P. See where the creator has the "page" set; readjust as required. Sometimes explains "missing bits". Cmd+Y, (toggle), will also sometimes shed light on said missing bits.
ohh i thought the best advice i gave ya was hit the "ignore beermonster" button :laugh:
I have heard similar comments from people many times over the years: "Don't like Illustrator."
After I taught myself Quark I moved right into Illy. It was some months later that I finally got into Photoshop. Where I work I'm the only person who actually uses and creates vector files - my coworkers rasterize everything.
There are a huge number of features I never have and never will use in Illy, which is why I despise its bloated package. Like a one size fits all, even though the majority of people only use a small number of tools/features.
I work in Illy cs4 about 80% of the time these days.
It occasionally locks up. Seems to have something to do with files from certain clients. But once it starts doing it, it does it every 20-30 minutes. I learned somewhere, maybe here, to trash the preferences and found that that was the key when it starts having its fainting spells. And yes, sometimes, but not always, it somehow takes the OS down with it, something I wouldn't have expected under OSX.
I keep a known "good" set of prefs handy and just replace the corrupt set with them, this keeps most of my settings from going back to the factory default nonsense.
The evilness is continuing, now with my coworker's Illustrator. We have the same setup: Win XP, Illy CS1. What happens is she cannot get the Character palette to show up, even though under Window > Type > Character it's checked. Various other palettes are displaying.
I referred to this thread and we tried restarting Illy while holding down Ctrl-Shift-Alt to delete prefs and then ONLY the Character palette showed up and under the Window menu the entire list of palettes has disappeared. WTF? Restart again without holding down the key combo and same thing - various palettes, but no Character palette.
Then we tried manually deleting all the prefs in her user application data folder - still no go.
Ideas?
My pathfinder pallet would sometimes position itself off of the desktop. i dont know how, but when it went missing, id resize my desktop to a higher resolution, and there it would be, floating off by itself..
I dont think selecting "workspaces > Default" reset it back to where it was supposed to be either..
Quote from: delooch on April 13, 2009, 04:47:27 PMMy pathfinder pallet would sometimes position itself off of the desktop. i dont know how, but when it went missing, id resize my desktop to a higher resolution, and there it would be, floating off by itself..
I dont think selecting "workspaces > Default" reset it back to where it was supposed to be either..
I noticed some of this behavior too, I just ignored it, adapted, got the work done, and forgot all about it. Strange things are, indeed, afoot.
But nothing even remotely as insane as the disasterous 1997 release of Quark 4.0!
Illy CS1 doesn't have Workspaces. Another "feature".
Nice work Adobe! :way2go: :winner: :puke:
another thing I found...
are you running any anti-virus software?
disable it and see if that doesn't help.
I'm still searching for anything else.
BBS
Quote from: david on April 14, 2009, 06:52:45 AManother thing I found...
are you running any anti-virus software?
disable it and see if that doesn't help.
I'm still searching for anything else.
BBS
Sigh. Why the hell would AV software affect Adobe's palettes? :banghead: We'll try that.
Maybe Adobe is in the virus business. :shocked: :lipsrsealed:
I'm finding some "creative" solutions out there, some make sense, some don't.
It's just that you've apparently tried a buttload of the normal stuff, now for something unconventional.
ya never know...
:kiss:
Quote from: ratintrap on April 14, 2009, 10:07:36 AMMaybe Adobe is in the virus business. :shocked: :lipsrsealed:
Maybe Adobe IS the virus. :shocked:
ewww
get it off, get it off, get it off!
:wink: