What do the two mean to you?
I am currently in an argument about which each one actually is (or was) with a 61 year old PITA.
Naturally being at one place his whole life he has one background and one definition.
Your thoughts please.
fonts = arial, helvetica, futura, etc.
typeface = serif, sans serif, etc.
When we say fonts, we should actually be saying Typefaces
IMO the name is the font and the style is the typeface. :deadhorse:
http://www.aiga.org/theyre-not-fonts/ (http://www.aiga.org/theyre-not-fonts/)
Quote from: Joe on October 12, 2011, 01:21:07 PMWhen we say fonts, we should actually be saying Typefaces
Wiki=
In typography, a font is traditionally defined as a quantity of sorts composing a complete character set of a single size and style of a particular typeface. For example, the complete set of all the characters for "9-point Bulmer" is called a font, and the "10-point Bulmer" would be another separate font, but part of the same font family, whereas "9-point Bulmer boldface" would be another font in a different font family of the same typeface. One individual font character might be referred to as a "piece of font" or a "piece of type".
So is it both?
I'm going with Joe's guy.
About the Author: Allan Haley is the director of words and letters at Monotype Imaging, where he is responsible for the strategic planning and creative implementation of just about everything related to typeface designs and editorial content for the company's type libraries and websites. Prior to Monotype, Haley was the principal of Resolution, a consulting firm with expertise in fonts, font technology, type and typographic communication. He was also executive vice president of International Typeface Corporation. He is an ex-officio chairman of the board of the Society of Typographic Aficionados and past president of the New York Type Directors Club.
I give up I'm arguing with a moron "we always called them a family of fonts" and he can't get his mind around the fact you have a typeface (Bodoni) and a font that makes it.
I guess killing him is out of the question so I need to let it go.
kill em...
gitoffmahlawn!
I don't need no stinkin' fonts....
Quote from: G_Town on October 12, 2011, 01:50:44 PMI guess killing him is out of the question so I need to let it go.
Not really. You & Delooch can team up and get rid of his stupid coworker at the same time.
Quote from: Farabomb on October 12, 2011, 01:33:09 PMQuote from: Joe on October 12, 2011, 01:21:07 PMWhen we say fonts, we should actually be saying Typefaces
Wiki=
In typography, a font is traditionally defined as a quantity of sorts composing a complete character set of a single size and style of a particular typeface. For example, the complete set of all the characters for "9-point Bulmer" is called a font, and the "10-point Bulmer" would be another separate font, but part of the same font family, whereas "9-point Bulmer boldface" would be another font in a different font family of the same typeface. One individual font character might be referred to as a "piece of font" or a "piece of type".
So is it both?
QuoteTypefaces are designs like Baskerville, Gill Sans or Papyrus. Type designers create typefaces. Today they use software programs like Fontographer or Font Lab to create the individual letters. A few still draw the letters by hand and then scan them into a type design application.
Fonts are the things that enable the printing of typefaces. Type foundries produce fonts. Sometimes designers and foundries are one and the same, but creating a typeface and producing a font are two separate functions.
That's too many fonts typefaces glyphs characters words for me to read. :tongue:
I converted it to outlines... all good now.
Font. Typeface. It doesn't matter to me.
I simply refer to all of them as "those thingys".
I prefer "evil bastards". :laugh:
When a RIP has issues, "it's always a font" is the answer from Tech support.
Why is it never a Typeface?
Go figure.
It's always prepress's fault so why not?
Quote from: Syphon on October 12, 2011, 05:07:40 PMFont. Typeface. It doesn't matter to me.
Personally, I don't care either. But to remain PC on this forum, I'll guess I'll start calling them Typefaces.
Yea, whenever I think of PC I think of this forum.
Quote from: Farabomb on October 13, 2011, 08:45:45 AMYea, whenever I think of PC I think of this forum.
You forgot the :rolleyes: icon (we need a better one)
Quote from: Farabomb on October 13, 2011, 08:45:45 AMYea, whenever I think of PC I think of this forum.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Here is another link http://www.aiga.org/theyre-not-fonts/ (http://www.aiga.org/theyre-not-fonts/).
Comic Sans...nice
:lmao:
Quote from: Stiv on October 13, 2011, 12:36:34 PMHere is another link http://www.aiga.org/theyre-not-fonts/ (http://www.aiga.org/theyre-not-fonts/).
good read. turns out i don't know everything. :tongue:
Well I'm tried to tell this old f*&k this and he won't have it, can't teach an old dog new...wait I mean you cant teach a young dog old trick....
Ehh screw it.
Quote from: Stiv on October 13, 2011, 12:36:34 PMHere is another link http://www.aiga.org/theyre-not-fonts/ (http://www.aiga.org/theyre-not-fonts/).
I thought that looked familiar. :laugh:
https://www.b4print.com/index.php?topic=6311.msg180098#msg180098 (https://www.b4print.com/index.php?topic=6311.msg180098#msg180098)
Quote from: Joe on October 12, 2011, 01:22:46 PMhttp://www.aiga.org/theyre-not-fonts/ (http://www.aiga.org/theyre-not-fonts/)
Quote from: G_Town on October 13, 2011, 02:42:39 PMWell I'm tried to tell this old f*&k this and he won't have it, can't teach an old dog new...wait I mean you cant teach a young dog old trick....
Ehh screw it.
:police: Where's Gnubler? Did she get her 20,000 and split?
She's got 14 to go and doubt she is going to waste any on this boringass topic. :laugh:
Quote from: Joe on October 13, 2011, 03:34:06 PMI thought that looked familiar. :laugh:
Ask Sabby or anyone else who's gotten mail from me. I figured Comic Sans was common courtesy amongst members... :laugh: I mean, it's friendly & whimsical, can't go wrong.
Quote from: tapdn on October 13, 2011, 03:51:22 PMShe's got 14 to go and doubt she is going to waste any on this boringass topic. :laugh:
Five left now and I just consider a "font" to be a computer file (or a series of files depending on the flavor) and if you want to get nerdy with those in the know you can spew around terms like typeface, serif, glyph, and such. I once chatted with a "graphic designer" who asked me "what's serif?" :death: I just dumb myself down to the masses and tell them we need the fonts without getting technical or artsy.
I know Paul Barnes would twitch about that, but whatever.
Quote from: gnubler on October 13, 2011, 09:57:46 PMQuote from: Joe on October 13, 2011, 03:34:06 PMI thought that looked familiar. :laugh:
Ask Sabby or anyone else who's gotten mail from me. I figured Comic Sans was common courtesy amongst members... :laugh: I mean, it's friendly & whimsical, can't go wrong.
I felt like the most important Prepresser in the world yesterday. :banana:
I never get any mail... :cry:
Quote from: david on October 14, 2011, 07:53:27 AMI never get any mail... :cry:
WOW, that's nice...not to have any bills!
bills? those come by phone call now-a-days. Some even call the cell phone. They know I chunk all the "junk" mail. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
So... when the CSR says the client wants it "in a bigger font" they're actually, totally by accident, on the right track! Specifically, they want a larger "point size" of that font, but they at least aren't asking for a "bigger typeface"!
Then there's the bizarre term that cropped up late in the 20th Century: Typefont