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Paper Shortage
« on: September 30, 2021, 12:28:53 PM »
Up until the last couple of weeks things have been going gang busters here. Now all the work seems to have fallen of a cliff. Just had a conversation with our scheduling Director. He says there is currently the biggest paper supply shortage ever seen. The women in charge procurement is losing her mind, she's trying to beg, borrow & steal to get the paper we need. We are turning away work, other printers are calling us offering us work if we can get the paper. Is anyone else experiencing this?

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Re: Paper Shortage
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2021, 01:39:54 PM »
Yes, there are a bunch of ships at the Port at Long Beach
there are no workers to unload the ships, there may be other reasons also

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Re: Paper Shortage
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2021, 01:42:52 PM »
Yes.
And yes other reasons for shortage, like mills pivoting to corrugated for Amazon boxes and such during shutdowns.
And yes, lack of workers AND truck drivers.
We'll get through this, but there will be pain.
Hopefully I won't be there, I should be in recovery from  knee replacement surgery.

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Re: Paper Shortage
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2021, 01:45:59 PM »
port of Long Beach

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Re: Paper Shortage
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2021, 02:17:02 PM »
Up until the last couple of weeks things have been going gang busters here. Now all the work seems to have fallen of a cliff. Just had a conversation with our scheduling Director. He says there is currently the biggest paper supply shortage ever seen. The women in charge procurement is losing her mind, she's trying to beg, borrow & steal to get the paper we need. We are turning away work, other printers are calling us offering us work if we can get the paper. Is anyone else experiencing this?

Same up here in Canada.

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Re: Paper Shortage
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2021, 02:20:39 PM »
I heard like 60, 3 or 4 is normal, but maybe that number was just LA and Longbeach, not the whole state
Hopefully I won't be there, I should be in recovery from  knee replacement surgery.

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Re: Paper Shortage
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2021, 02:21:56 PM »
We can't get certain Konica toners, shirts and hoodies, and some stock. We've been pretty lucky so far, the toners are what we sell, not what we use. I hate that we do shirts so I laugh about that. And we've been able to find other comparable stock and substrates. I'm expecting it to go south though.
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Re: Paper Shortage
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2021, 03:14:41 PM »
yeah it's weird wondering what's going to happen next.
Chris' is in automotive, same thing low on computer chips.

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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2021, 08:05:34 PM »
Ford called the bf and wanted to buy his truck back. Offered him a pretty penny but couldn't trade it bc they don't have anything. They only wanted it for the chip.
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Re: Paper Shortage
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2021, 09:41:16 PM »
I was thinking about an older "cheap" truck and I saw a 2014 Silverado at a local dealer. It was nice looking. 4 door. No rust. 145,000+ miles so I inquired about the price for an almost 8 year old truck with 145K+ miles on it. $33,500! I lost interest pretty quickly.
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Re: Paper Shortage
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2021, 02:01:55 AM »
My in-laws need a new car, and I wanted to get them a Civic sport 5-door hatchback. Went to the lot yesterday morning, and the entire lot, usually about 1,000 cars, had 2... both Pilots. They had about 5 used cars ad the ones in the showroom, and that was it. The Dodge dealer next door wasn't much better. I drove across the street to Toyota and they had about 2 dozen Rav4s and not much else. Mazda had a bunch of Miatas (or MX5s or whatever) and no other cars. I tried Kelly Blue Book and of the 6 or 7 Sac Metro Honda dealers, only 2 of them had new 21-22 Civics, so I requested quotes. The car I wanted should have had an MSRP of $21-23k but one of the dealers wanted $29k and the other $27k and neither was willing to negotiate the price. I got a quote on a used one from Enterprise, and they wanted $33k. I refuse to pay $33k for a used Civic.

I called my former coworker, who bought a 5door hatchback Corolla a month or two ago. She paid $28k, before tax, license, etc. The Corolla has an MSRP of $20k-22k. I did some research, and again got quotes of $27k-29k. I checked CarMax and Carvana and all the used Civics/Corollas/Camrys/Accords were going in the $27k + range.

Then I tried Costco. Thank God, because I was about to give up. They said Folsom Lake Toyota had a 5door Corolla hatch for $22k. I called the guy, and he said they had one coming in about 72 hours from the call. I negotiated an offer and got my Father-In-Law a $500 military discount, a $500 Toyota rebate and a final purchase price, after tax, license, etc. of $24,439.39. The guy texted me this morning and said the truck came in with the car on it, and I took my Mother-In-Law out to Folsom and we bought it... ended up getting an alarm system, and an extended warranty, but heavily discounted and now the car is maintenance/worry free for 8 years, 75,000 miles bumper-to-bumper and the check she wrote was a shade over $26k. Very, very happy to find the car we wanted and not overpay for it.
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Re: Paper Shortage
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2021, 10:17:54 AM »
Very, very happy to find the car we wanted and not overpay for it.
Damn, you are lucky! 
I have a friend with 30 years in car sales - as a manager, he's telling the new-ish sales people to lap up EVERY DAY of this, he's never seen anything before for such strong sales numbers!

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Re: Paper Shortage
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2021, 10:46:54 AM »
Chris had moved to used cars during pandemic, it's pretty crazy