Preps 7

[DigiCorn]

How/Can you rename a signature in Preps 7?

[Joe]

Right Click the sig:

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[DigiCorn]

actually, i figured it out seconds after i posted. Under Press Runs List, click on the signature name and it allows you to change it there too.

[DigiCorn]

...so how do you handle it when you have a form with multiple lots, some which require an independent page, and it creates additional sections and screws up your form numbering on the job identifier?

I found doing multiple impositions and merging the sections works, but the powers that be don't like that solution.

[DigiCorn]

anyone? Bueller?

[David]

are you trying to get a specific name to appear in the job identifier?
We usually use the "signature naming", put whatever you want there, and then use a text string to put that into the identifier.

like this one here:

$[Compound_%jobname%_$SigName_Side_$Side]
where you see "$SigName" is what will appear in the identifier from what you have in the signature name field.

[Joe]

I have to admit I wasn't sure what you were talking about either.

[DigiCorn]

are you trying to get a specific name to appear in the job identifier?
We usually use the "signature naming", put whatever you want there, and then use a text string to put that into the identifier.

like this one here:

$[Compound_%jobname%_$SigName_Side_$Side]
where you see "$SigName" is what will appear in the identifier from what you have in the signature name field.

it's the $SigName that's screwed up

[David]

how do you have the text string formatted?
from looking at your screen capture you don't appear to be using that part of the code

[DigiCorn]

$jobid     Form-$sig  Side-$side     $date     $time     $[color]

Since I have never really worked with others before, maybe I don't know the proper terms/vernacular. To me, each part in an imposition is a signature, but here they have multiple signatures on a single Form (they call each part of an imposition a Form). If you have multiple "sections" from Preps on a Form, then the Form number gets messed up.

However, if you open arrow click on part of your imposition, you can turn it into an independent page without adding a new section (or creating a dual imposition and merging the sections), so that solves the issue.

[Farabomb]

Over here a sig is a whole imposed sheet normally. I have a feeling if I did a 16pg laid out as parallel 8's bindery would call that 2 sigs but for me it's just a 16 with a different fold pattern.

[Joe]

In Preps you can do a multi sig imposition where there are actually two separate sigs coming of the press. We run a lot of them on the web presses where we run two separate 16, 24, or 32 on the same press run. You can assign any pages in the imposition to each sig. Or you can assign the same pages to both sigs if you want and run the job 2 up. You can also have the text identifier for both sigs so the press knows which sigs are on the run. And Collation Marks know what sig each should be in the press run.

[Farabomb]

When I was typing it did make sense to have 2 sigs on a sheet. I do it with my parallel 8 on a 16 pg form. It breaks down to 2 sigs in bindery.

Now if you asked the boss what a 16pg sheet that's being folded as 8's is, 4 times 2 times it would be one sig, 2 times it would be 2 sigs.

We may not do it right here but we get it done.

I just spent 4 hours tracking down a issue where my proofs were right and the press sheet was right. Turns out the guy packing the box is a moron. I will admit it was a little confusing but you have a print out with the fronts and backs and qty. At least he didn't try and weasel his way out of it as in the norm for him.

[DigiCorn]

In Preps you can do a multi sig imposition where there are actually two separate sigs coming of the press. We run a lot of them on the web presses where we run two separate 16, 24, or 32 on the same press run. You can assign any pages in the imposition to each sig. Or you can assign the same pages to both sigs if you want and run the job 2 up. You can also have the text identifier for both sigs so the press knows which sigs are on the run. And Collation Marks know what sig each should be in the press run.

How do you do that? It comes up here on the 130 sometimes.

[Joe]

[attachimg=1 width=200 align=left] This is a sample saddlestitch with a 32 page imposition as two separate 16 page sections. To make multiple sections you enter number of sections as circled in the image. Then ion the left you will see the sections.



[attachimg=2 width=200 align=left] [attachimg=3 width=200 align=right] If you click on the section name on the left it will highlight the pages that belong to that section.






When you number the pages you would number each signature 1 - 16. After that though, looking at the large numbers in the impo, it looks like it is an ordinary 32 page sig but on multi-section impos look at the small numbers and not the large ones. The small numbers for each section are numbered 1-16. When you go to number it with the numbering tool you select which section to number as shown below.

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