As I told Joe already, I bought the LePan tablet from Amazon for $199. It runs Froyo Android 2.2, but a lot of techies are saying this tablet rocks if you install Gingerbread instead. Is anyone running Gingerbread on an android device, and if you, what's your experience like? Is it worth the hassle?
[edit]I should clarify this. Is Gingerbread more stable than Honeycomb? Which is the best OS to run?
Yes, yes and yes.
My phone shipped with Froyo and gingerbread made a huge difference. Now I'm just waiting for the devs to crack samsungs RIL so we have have ICS.
If I want to update my phone from Froyo to Gingerbread (not the tablet), will I lose what I have on it?
I edited my original post. Why Gingerbread and not Honeycomb? Which is better/more stable?
Honeycomb is the original Tab version of android. They ended up merging the phone and tab versions for convince. There are a lot of newer apps and such that won't run on honeycomb. I have had 0 issues with gingerbread but YMMV. The woman had a HTC thunderbolt and no matter what it was running it was shit. Verizon got tired of hearing me yell and replaced it with a droid charge, the same one I have. Within a few days she was all rooted and ROMed up and loves the phone. You have a galaxy S?
Is there an official release from your cell provider or do you have to use something from a dev? If it's from your carrier you should loose nothing. I'd look into either MyBackup or Titanium backup. They allow you to back up things to the SD card so if you have to do a wipe you save the data. If you are going with something from a dev I'd suggest rooting the phone. It's like having admin privileges and you can do a lot more. Check xda developers for more info.
I really don't have anything on my phone that can't be replaced. Just a bunch of apps, some music and movies... but all that stuff is on my computer at home, and it's a simple drag-and-drop to copy it back. I have the Samsung Infuse, which was touted as "the latest and greatest," but never got the publicity that the Galaxy II did. In reality, I think it's the same phone, in the manner that the Ford Five Hundred is the same as the Ford Taurus.
Run run as fast as you can, can't catch him he's the gingercorn man.
So then it's not far off mine I assume. Same basic hardware, different radios. Backing up app data helps by saving all you setting for the app, high scores and angry birds levels.
Read up Here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1158) and if you have any questions I can probably help seeing as the method should be the same as my phone.
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 18, 2012, 12:46:51 PMAs I told Joe already, I bought the LePan tablet from Amazon for $199. It runs Froyo Android 2.2, but a lot of techies are saying this tablet rocks if you install Gingerbread instead. Is anyone running Gingerbread on an android device, and if you, what's your experience like? Is it worth the hassle?
[edit]I should clarify this. Is Gingerbread more stable than Honeycomb? Which is the best OS to run?
Just got mine from newegg this morning. Didn't have time to open it as I had to come to work early due to Prinergy taking a crap. And it's still crapping but I digress...I'm going to try the upgrade to whatever version they say I can upgrade to. I do know it will not let you upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich.
wtf is ice cream sandwich?
and, who comes up with these dumbass names?
Quote from: david on April 18, 2012, 02:18:38 PMwtf is ice cream sandwich?
and, who comes up with these dumbass names?
Google.
Google refers to the android builds as dessert names so the answer to your question is google.
Let me know how you guys get on with those tabs. That's the right price for me and I won't have to wait for the new ASUS one
yea, that.
I might need some help. I've never used an Android device, let alone upgraded one. I'll keep you on speed PM.
No problem, PMs go to my droid. :afro:
Quote from: Farabomb on April 18, 2012, 02:24:26 PMLet me know how you guys get on with those tabs.
We'll be sure to let you know if it's the droid you're looking for.
Quote from: david on April 18, 2012, 02:18:38 PMwtf is ice cream sandwich?
and, who comes up with these dumbass names?
Oh, you're just old! Poopypants.
Now go google my bebo on your droid. :naughty:
Quote from: gnubler on April 18, 2012, 04:26:06 PMQuote from: david on April 18, 2012, 02:18:38 PMwtf is ice cream sandwich?
and, who comes up with these dumbass names?
Oh, you're just old! Poopypants.
Now go google my bebo on your droid. :naughty:
I feel dirty...
Quote from: Joe on April 18, 2012, 02:29:05 PMI might need some help. I've never used an Android device, let alone upgraded one. I'll keep you on speed PM.
F-Bomb posted a link, but the download was no longer there. I went here (http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00045587&fm_seq=46249), and upgraded no problem. I backed up everything first, but I didn't lose anything on the upgrade, except for Angry Birds.
Root your tablet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353951 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353951)
I think you have to root ANY android device to install the new firmware
Not if it's from the factory. I had GB on my charge before it was released OTA becasue I was rooted but when they pushed the OTA everyone went to GB.
Jut found out my phone isn't really a 4g, despite being advertised that way. It's HSDPA, which at work is actually a faster connection than our wi-fi network. I ran a speedtest and I was 3mbps faster on HSDPA than I was connecting to our crappy 6mps network (which I checked with the boss, and that's all we pay for - 6mpbs).
ATT is fucked up, at least 2 phones named 4G and they only have 3G radios in them. How the hell are they not getting in trouble for that?
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 19, 2012, 07:55:06 AMQuote from: Joe on April 18, 2012, 02:29:05 PMI might need some help. I've never used an Android device, let alone upgraded one. I'll keep you on speed PM.
F-Bomb posted a link, but the download was no longer there. I went here (http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00045587&fm_seq=46249), and upgraded no problem. I backed up everything first, but I didn't lose anything on the upgrade, except for Angry Birds.
What did you upgrade? The tablet or a phone? I just unboxed the new tablet about 2 am. The link I had that said you could upgrade the tablet to GB was wrong. It was just a firmware update and not an OS update.
I upgraded my phone. Technically it is a firmware update, but the UI changed. The one thing I do not like right away is the ability to mute all sounds with 1-touch. If you look at the "About Phone" settings, it says Firmware 2.3.6 and Build number GINGERBREAD.UCLB3. It does not list anything as "OS".
Quote from: Farabomb on April 19, 2012, 08:10:35 AMRoot your tablet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353951 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353951)
I was just reading that thread last night. The thing about that thread is that it was made last November and last updated in January and now has 59 pages so I don't know if that info in post #1 is still relevant and I haven't had time to read the other 58 pages.
That's why I'm thinking I may stay with a more supported device like the ASUS Transformer.
I read some reviews on the LePan tablet yesterday and other than some stupid design problem with the on/off button, the general consensus is that for people like us (with some technical knowledge) it's great - better if you update to GB. I guess at some point, with FroYo it locks up; a restart usually fixes it, but GB eliminates the issue. I would imagine rooting it first is the way to go, but before I do mine, I'm going to read all 58 pages.
Any manufacturer can screw up. ASUS released the transformer prime with a nice sexy metal back... too bad it borks WiFi and GPS signals. That's why I'm waiting for their newest revision of the transformer before I get a tab.
Though if you guys have good luck with this one I may pick up one just for the hell of it.
Posting this from the new Le Pan tablet...works pretty good.
Nerds.
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPCQ-XcOdOc9L9lLq1juF6bZ_ZvAIdjL_lYi3L-fftLU_40nZp)
Quote from: Joe on April 19, 2012, 10:22:55 AMPosting this from the new Le Pan tablet...works pretty good.
FroYo or GB (did you upgrade)?
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 19, 2012, 10:38:18 AMQuote from: Joe on April 19, 2012, 10:22:55 AMPosting this from the new Le Pan tablet...works pretty good.
FroYo or GB (did you upgrade)?
FroYo. Haven't gotten the courage to try it yet.
Quote from: Joe on April 19, 2012, 10:58:57 AMQuote from: DigiCorn on April 19, 2012, 10:38:18 AMQuote from: Joe on April 19, 2012, 10:22:55 AMPosting this from the new Le Pan tablet...works pretty good.
FroYo or GB (did you upgrade)?
FroYo. Haven't gotten the courage to try it yet.
Don't be a wuss.
he's waiting on that Chinese hacker to call him back....
Before I dicked with my phone at all I made sure I had the files and programs to bring it back to stock. You may want that if it's possible before you attempt the GB switch.
Once I had the factory restore I didn't care. At worst my phone was dead until I got home and I could ODIN it back to stock and then redo everything.
I did see something about CWM (clockwork mod) on that thread when I scanned it. It's quite handy becasue you can make an image before you screw with the device. If it gets borked, as long as you can get back into CWM you should be able to restore the image and be back to where you started.
Aren't most hackers Russian?
That or Eastern European.
American kids are too lazy now to be hackers.
Quote from: gnubler on April 19, 2012, 11:39:45 AMAren't most hackers Russian?
The Chinese are stealing all of our secrets. The Russians are stealing all of our money.
Quote from: Farabomb on April 19, 2012, 11:37:51 AMBefore I dicked with my phone at all I made sure I had the files and programs to bring it back to stock. You may want that if it's possible before you attempt the GB switch.
Once I had the factory restore I didn't care. At worst my phone was dead until I got home and I could ODIN it back to stock and then redo everything.
I did see something about CWM (clockwork mod) on that thread when I scanned it. It's quite handy becasue you can make an image before you screw with the device. If it gets borked, as long as you can get back into CWM you should be able to restore the image and be back to where you started.
Kind of what I want to do. At least be fairly confident I can get back to the factory settings and not just have an expensive paperweight.
Quote from: Joe on April 19, 2012, 11:56:47 AMQuote from: Farabomb on April 19, 2012, 11:37:51 AMBefore I dicked with my phone at all I made sure I had the files and programs to bring it back to stock. You may want that if it's possible before you attempt the GB switch.
Once I had the factory restore I didn't care. At worst my phone was dead until I got home and I could ODIN it back to stock and then redo everything.
I did see something about CWM (clockwork mod) on that thread when I scanned it. It's quite handy becasue you can make an image before you screw with the device. If it gets borked, as long as you can get back into CWM you should be able to restore the image and be back to where you started.
Kind of what I want to do. At least be fairly confident I can get back to the factory settings and not just have an expensive paperweight.
If you want to be a true techie, the correct term is "brick," as in,
"Don't brick your tablet."
QuoteThis usage derives from the fact that some electronic devices (and their detachable power supplies) are vaguely brick-shaped, and so those that do not function are useful only as actual bricks
and we all know, bricks make wonderful paperweights...
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 19, 2012, 12:12:30 PMQuote from: Joe on April 19, 2012, 11:56:47 AMQuote from: Farabomb on April 19, 2012, 11:37:51 AMBefore I dicked with my phone at all I made sure I had the files and programs to bring it back to stock. You may want that if it's possible before you attempt the GB switch.
Once I had the factory restore I didn't care. At worst my phone was dead until I got home and I could ODIN it back to stock and then redo everything.
I did see something about CWM (clockwork mod) on that thread when I scanned it. It's quite handy becasue you can make an image before you screw with the device. If it gets borked, as long as you can get back into CWM you should be able to restore the image and be back to where you started.
Kind of what I want to do. At least be fairly confident I can get back to the factory settings and not just have an expensive paperweight.
If you want to be a true techie, the correct term is "brick," as in, "Don't brick your tablet."
Build a few of these then get back to me about my techie status. :tongue:
(http://www.liquidninjas.com/photopost/watermark.php?file=663)
(http://www.liquidninjas.com/photopost/watermark.php?file=598)
Always been afraid to try the water cooling. Don't trust the Chinese to build it water tight.
That's why I built everything other than the waterblocks myself. That was in the mid 90's, there wasn't water cooling kits out then.
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 19, 2012, 12:12:30 PMQuote from: Joe on April 19, 2012, 11:56:47 AMQuote from: Farabomb on April 19, 2012, 11:37:51 AMBefore I dicked with my phone at all I made sure I had the files and programs to bring it back to stock. You may want that if it's possible before you attempt the GB switch.
Once I had the factory restore I didn't care. At worst my phone was dead until I got home and I could ODIN it back to stock and then redo everything.
I did see something about CWM (clockwork mod) on that thread when I scanned it. It's quite handy becasue you can make an image before you screw with the device. If it gets borked, as long as you can get back into CWM you should be able to restore the image and be back to where you started.
Kind of what I want to do. At least be fairly confident I can get back to the factory settings and not just have an expensive paperweight.
If you want to be a true techie, the correct term is "brick," as in, "Don't brick your tablet."
I disagree with the term. I can build a house from bricks. Not from a tablet that no longer works. Therefore it would be more of a paperweight than a brick.
It can also be used as a target.
Quote from: Joe on April 19, 2012, 01:07:39 PMQuote from: DigiCorn on April 19, 2012, 12:12:30 PMQuote from: Joe on April 19, 2012, 11:56:47 AMQuote from: Farabomb on April 19, 2012, 11:37:51 AMBefore I dicked with my phone at all I made sure I had the files and programs to bring it back to stock. You may want that if it's possible before you attempt the GB switch.
Once I had the factory restore I didn't care. At worst my phone was dead until I got home and I could ODIN it back to stock and then redo everything.
I did see something about CWM (clockwork mod) on that thread when I scanned it. It's quite handy becasue you can make an image before you screw with the device. If it gets borked, as long as you can get back into CWM you should be able to restore the image and be back to where you started.
Kind of what I want to do. At least be fairly confident I can get back to the factory settings and not just have an expensive paperweight.
If you want to be a true techie, the correct term is "brick," as in, "Don't brick your tablet."
I disagree with the term. I can build a house from bricks. Not from a tablet that no longer works. Therefore it would be more of a paperweight than a brick.
Nerdom has spoken http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bricking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bricking)
Quote from: Farabomb on April 19, 2012, 01:40:23 PMIt can also be used as a target.
As all of this e-crap should be...
KABOOM!
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 19, 2012, 01:55:44 PMQuote from: Joe on April 19, 2012, 01:07:39 PMQuote from: DigiCorn on April 19, 2012, 12:12:30 PMQuote from: Joe on April 19, 2012, 11:56:47 AMQuote from: Farabomb on April 19, 2012, 11:37:51 AMBefore I dicked with my phone at all I made sure I had the files and programs to bring it back to stock. You may want that if it's possible before you attempt the GB switch.
Once I had the factory restore I didn't care. At worst my phone was dead until I got home and I could ODIN it back to stock and then redo everything.
I did see something about CWM (clockwork mod) on that thread when I scanned it. It's quite handy becasue you can make an image before you screw with the device. If it gets borked, as long as you can get back into CWM you should be able to restore the image and be back to where you started.
Kind of what I want to do. At least be fairly confident I can get back to the factory settings and not just have an expensive paperweight.
If you want to be a true techie, the correct term is "brick," as in, "Don't brick your tablet."
I disagree with the term. I can build a house from bricks. Not from a tablet that no longer works. Therefore it would be more of a paperweight than a brick.
Nerdom has spoken http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bricking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bricking)
Quote from: David on April 19, 2012, 12:16:35 PMQuote from: wikipedia.org/wiki/BrickingThis usage derives from the fact that some electronic devices (and their detachable power supplies) are vaguely brick-shaped, and so those that do not function are useful only as actual bricks
and we all know, bricks make wonderful paperweights...
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 19, 2012, 01:55:44 PMQuote from: Joe on April 19, 2012, 01:07:39 PMQuote from: DigiCorn on April 19, 2012, 12:12:30 PMQuote from: Joe on April 19, 2012, 11:56:47 AMQuote from: Farabomb on April 19, 2012, 11:37:51 AMBefore I dicked with my phone at all I made sure I had the files and programs to bring it back to stock. You may want that if it's possible before you attempt the GB switch.
Once I had the factory restore I didn't care. At worst my phone was dead until I got home and I could ODIN it back to stock and then redo everything.
I did see something about CWM (clockwork mod) on that thread when I scanned it. It's quite handy becasue you can make an image before you screw with the device. If it gets borked, as long as you can get back into CWM you should be able to restore the image and be back to where you started.
Kind of what I want to do. At least be fairly confident I can get back to the factory settings and not just have an expensive paperweight.
If you want to be a true techie, the correct term is "brick," as in, "Don't brick your tablet."
I disagree with the term. I can build a house from bricks. Not from a tablet that no longer works. Therefore it would be more of a paperweight than a brick.
Nerdom has spoken http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bricking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bricking)
Lets get back on topic. Have you got yours
bricked upgraded yet? You first... :tongue:
Just showed up in the mail today. Going home right now to upgrade it.
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 19, 2012, 04:04:10 PMJust showed up in the mail today. Going home right now to upgrade it.
Post a tutorial. :laugh:
Gingerbread on Le Pan TC970 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483954)
More info, Must register to read here.
[TUTORIAL] - CyanogenMod 7/Gingerbread - step by step install Guide (http://www.forum.lepanlife.com/showthread.php?tid=253)
I read a lot of stuff last night, and saw the sites you mentioned, but also had some stuff going on (like updating my wife's iPhone 4 to OS 5.1). My first attempt at the LePan upgrade resulting in the unit shutting down, only to be brought back to life by pushing the "reset" button on the back of the unit. I didn't get a second crack at it. Unit works fine, but my wi-fi doesn't hold - keeps dropping the signal and not picking it back up without some prodding. My Infuse did this too, until I did the GB update, and now it seems to just fine, so I really want to get my LePan on GB also.
Also, I do know that to do the GB update, you must have a Windows box - can't do it on a Mac.
That seems to be the case with most android things. PC, sometimes running linux but Mac seems to be not popular.
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 20, 2012, 08:07:59 AMI read a lot of stuff last night, and saw the sites you mentioned, but also had some stuff going on (like updating my wife's iPhone 4 to OS 5.1). My first attempt at the LePan upgrade resulting in the unit shutting down, only to be brought back to life by pushing the "reset" button on the back of the unit. I didn't get a second crack at it. Unit works fine, but my wi-fi doesn't hold - keeps dropping the signal and not picking it back up without some prodding. My Infuse did this too, until I did the GB update, and now it seems to just fine, so I really want to get my LePan on GB also.
I had a Belkin router that everything wireless kept dropping off like that. Throwing it in the trash and buying a new router fixed the issue and the new tablet hasn't dropped off the wi-fi yet.
Which tute were you following?
No problem on the Windows PC. I have an XP machine (3 of them) and a Win 7 box too.
And I assume to install GB you have to root it first, right? So I would need to follow the tute that Farabomb posted and then do one of the tutes I posted for updating to GB.
The developer doing the programming "bricked" ( <===happy now?) his tablet and is waiting for a new one. Doesn't fill me with confidence.
Quote from: Joe on April 20, 2012, 10:26:35 AMQuote from: DigiCorn on April 20, 2012, 08:07:59 AMI read a lot of stuff last night, and saw the sites you mentioned, but also had some stuff going on (like updating my wife's iPhone 4 to OS 5.1). My first attempt at the LePan upgrade resulting in the unit shutting down, only to be brought back to life by pushing the "reset" button on the back of the unit. I didn't get a second crack at it. Unit works fine, but my wi-fi doesn't hold - keeps dropping the signal and not picking it back up without some prodding. My Infuse did this too, until I did the GB update, and now it seems to just fine, so I really want to get my LePan on GB also.
I had a Belkin router that everything wireless kept dropping off like that. Throwing it in the trash and buying a new router fixed the issue and the new tablet hasn't dropped off the wi-fi yet.
Which tute were you following?
No problem on the Windows PC. I have an XP machine (3 of them) and a Win 7 box too.
I have a dual band (2.5/5.0) N router from Linksys, but I switched my internet to AT&T and now I can't get it to work right. AT&T makes you use this stupid 2Wire router/modem that's so paranoid, and totally can't handle the network traffic I throw at it. It's so bad... but it's only $19.99/mo vs. $79+ a month to get Comcast/Xfinity (which I had before and was pretty rock solid).
I forget which tut I was using, but I was trying to run OneClick.
Quote from: Joe on April 20, 2012, 10:30:38 AM( <===happy now?)
I'm ecstatic.
Quote from: Joe on April 19, 2012, 10:14:51 PMMore info, Must register to read here.
[TUTORIAL] - CyanogenMod 7/Gingerbread - step by step install Guide (http://www.forum.lepanlife.com/showthread.php?tid=253)
Followed these instructions and successfully updated to GB. While it 100% was more stable on the wifi, the loss of the use of the camera and the sd card were deal breakers. Since I had done a backup, I decided to just roll it back and deal with it the way it is. It works just fine... just not real good on the wifi
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 20, 2012, 10:40:51 PMQuote from: Joe on April 19, 2012, 10:14:51 PMMore info, Must register to read here.
[TUTORIAL] - CyanogenMod 7/Gingerbread - step by step install Guide (http://www.forum.lepanlife.com/showthread.php?tid=253)
Followed these instructions and successfully updated to GB. While it 100% was more stable on the wifi, the loss of the use of the camera and the sd card were deal breakers. Since I had done a backup, I decided to just roll it back and deal with it the way it is. It works just fine... just not real good on the wifi
Thanks for that info. If those aren't working I'll just stick to Froyo too. My wi-fi is working great so far.
oh yeah... in GB, the GPS stops working too.
Switched back and forth between FroYo and GB a few times the last two days to be certain. I don't really like the GB interface (but I love it on my phone). The Clockwork thing for backup is cool, though - so easy to swap OS and then restore back to where you were. The LePan has almost no internal storage, so without the use of the SD, it's almost worthless. Sure GB is more stable, faster, etc., but with nowhere to put apps, you can't really enjoy it. I am using the 32GB (max) SD card. Also, the screen is upside down on GB, but it's a non factor. The LePad works fine on FroYo, but compared to my android phone or the iPad 3, it's s-l-o-w-! Still, it's $199 full price, new, or $249 for the slightly faster LePan II.
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 22, 2012, 10:01:38 PMSwitched back and forth between FroYo and GB a few times the last two days to be certain. I don't really like the GB interface (but I love it on my phone). The Clockwork thing for backup is cool, though - so easy to swap OS and then restore back to where you were. The LePan has almost no internal storage, so without the use of the SD, it's almost worthless. Sure GB is more stable, faster, etc., but with nowhere to put apps, you can't really enjoy it. I am using the 32GB (max) SD card. Also, the screen is upside down on GB, but it's a non factor. The LePad works fine on FroYo, but compared to my android phone or the iPad 3, it's s-l-o-w-! Still, it's $199 full price, new, or $249 for the slightly faster LePan II.
Why can't you put apps on the SD card in GB? Reading the forums over there where I linked from, the upside down display and the camera issues were fixed and I thought the SD card issue was fixed as well. For $199 it is what it is. You can't really compare it to systems that cost 2 or 3 times more than it. It's a basic entry level tablet at best. But fun to play with. Mine doesn't seem particularly slow but I did experience some issues of it dropping the wi-fi on Saturday. On Sunday I updated the firmware to the latest version and it seems to have taken care of that issue or else the issue doesn't appear until after some use. (Updating the firmware wipes the whole system out so I'll see if the wi-fi degrades as it is used more.)
If you don't like the stock launcher on any android system you can easily use another one. Personally I like GO Launcher but there are a bunch of them out there. Just remember if you are using non stock launcher be sure to delete all widgets you were running on the stock one because they will continue to run in the background. Clockwork is awesome, along with the backups you can wipe cache, davlik, flash programs and kernels and other system tweaks. Digi, have you tried to mount the SD card in CWM while in GB? Might bring it back.
Just checked those forums again. Everything should be working in the lastest CM7 except the camcorder and GPS. The SD mount problem was solved awhile back. CM9 that is being worked, puts ICS on the Le Pan. Getting more interesting.
http://www.forum.lepanlife.com/showthread.php?tid=461 (http://www.forum.lepanlife.com/showthread.php?tid=461)
Fuck, little $200 tablet is getting ICS and my $350+ phone isn't... officially.
I had access to the SD while in CWM, but once I launched GB it was gone. Maybe I loaded the wrong build of GB?
Joe - what firmware did yours ship with? On the forums, I read 4642, but mine has 4749.
The GB made my tablet into a large phone. I actually liked the FroYo UI better... but on my phone, I like the GB UI.
I don't remember the exact number but it was lower than the 4626 that I got off the Le Pan site yesterday. I see they have a "leaked" firmware of 4749 over at those forums and supposedly a 4818 somewhere that I can't find a download for. 4749 is supposed to improve the wi-fi so I will probably install it later.
FB, I think ICS is on hold at the moment as Matsunichi is not releasing the source code as it it is required to by law.
Kinda the same issue with why my phone doesn't have ICS. The legality of the open source code doesn't extend to the propitiatory code. Samsung does not have to release the Radio Interface Layer (RIL) for my phone. It's their own code to work with only their hardware so it's not open source. That's what's holding up the port of ICS to my phone. There are some really good devs reverse engineering the code from the galaxy nexus but the hardware isn't the same for it's hard battle.
Some companies (HTC, Samsung) are really, really slow to release the code required. By the time they do a lot of people have moved on to another device so the development almost stops in some cases.
The developers are waiting on the modified Linux kernel to be released which by law they do have to release it. It's a Chinese company though so it's anyones guess if or when they will release it. They are in violation of the Linux open-source license if they don't release it though. The Linux Gods could make it rough going for them in the future if they don't release it.
So... are you going to try the GB update? If you get the SD working, be sure to let me know how you did it!
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 23, 2012, 11:02:48 AMSo... are you going to try the GB update? If you get the SD working, be sure to let me know how you did it!
Not sure yet but I might if it's only the camcorder and GPS that I lose. What did you use to backup so you can restore when things go south...or I just don't like it? I have Ultimate Backup (the free one) which saves all of your apps but not your data files or so I found out after restoring following my firmware update.
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 23, 2012, 11:02:48 AMSo... are you going to try the GB update? If you get the SD working, be sure to let me know how you did it!
It won't be today. I'm a landscaper today.
I need some landscaping...
if you're free later today...
You work in prepress so I know you couldn't afford me. :tongue:
did you NOT see the word "free"...
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: david on April 23, 2012, 12:26:08 PMdid you NOT see the word "free"...
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I see what you did there...
:laugh:
My landscaping slogan: I'm not that good and not that cheap.
Use MyBackup, MyBackup Root or Titanium backup to backup data in android. Clockwork to make a system level backup.
My 2-1/2-year-old switched my tablet over to Pinyin (Chinese) and I can't make it go away, however, I did figure out how to type in American again. :wtf:
Getting ready to go to Gingerbread on the Le Pan. The instructions state:
QuoteProcedure:
1) Download the griffin.zip and extract it to your SD card root folder.
2) Copy the update.zip to your SD card somewhere you will find it in recovery.
3) Power on your tablet with Volume down + Power key and wait a while (5 seconds) then release those keys
4) Do a Nandroid backup first!!! (You can get official version back in anytime)
5) Flash the update.zip
How do you "Flash the update.zip"?
Clockwork. There is an option to flash from SD card.
use the volume down and select all the items marked erase/clear - some of them are in the advanced menu.
also, the file will not be named "update.zip" it will be some longer name. don't select the option that says extract update - use the option where you manually select the file, and then browse to the actual long file name. symantics, i know, but i took it literally, and felt very foolish when it didn't work.
if it all goes right, it takes about 5 minutes, and with the backup you can roll it back even quicker. if you get the sd card operational in gb, let me know because i might retry it. my gb basically turned my lepan into a big phone, and added 3g options that weren't there before, even though the lepan isn't on 3g.
From within the clockwork mod software you mean? That makes sense. Thanks
Yes, within CWM. One other worthy notation: you can't have the lepan plugged in for charging or connected to the Windows box via usb if you want to get into CWM. It must be untethered.
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 26, 2012, 11:52:52 AMYes, within CWM. One other worthy notation: you can't have the lepan plugged in for charging or connected to the Windows box via usb if you want to get into CWM. It must be untethered.
Good to know. All files are on the Le Pan. Going in for the kill. Wish me luck! See you on the other side. Over and out. 10-4. The Eagle has landed.
check the radar range Roger
What's your vector, Victor?
First thing I am trying is the backup/restore option. I want to do the backup before upgrading. I selected it and it went to a screen with an orange circle with an arrow and a hat on top of it. No text. Doesn't look like it is doing anything. Is this normal?
Tablet appears to be locked up...
Give it a little bit.
It's not locked up. Hitting the power button returns me to the main menu. Was I supposed to extract the contents of update-cm-7.2.0-RC1-griffin-Beta5-sign.zip to the sd card? The instructions said to just copy the zip file to it. No matter what I try none of the menu options from within CWM does anything.
CWM no worky for me. :cry:
Sorry - was at lunch.
Hit the volume down arrow and scroll through the menu three times until you get a message at the bottom of the menu saying something like "backup deactivated", or, if you've done this, volume up through the menu three times to turn off this message. One of these will fix your issue.
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 26, 2012, 12:54:08 PMSorry - was at lunch.
Hit the volume down arrow and scroll through the menu three times until you get a message at the bottom of the menu saying something like "backup deactivated", or, if you've done this, volume up through the menu three times to turn off this message. One of these will fix your issue.
Shit! They could have mentioned that in the instructions somewhere. Backup is running now. Thanks.
you got instructions?
I learned that from one of the plethora of websites I visited trying to set it up.
Installed GB. Rebooted. I get the Cyanogen logo and it just sits there. Never gets past it. Reset doesn't help.
And I can't power the thing off. The reset just does a reboot and I can't even get back into the CWM menu because you have to be able to do a cold start to start up CWM.
¿Qué?
Who's more lost...me or David?
like i said, you have to volume down 3x (through the menu until the message appears at the bottom of the menu) to do the update, and then volume up 3x through the menu to power off/reboot from CWM.
Once you have the power off, press and hold down volume down AND press and hold down power (for at least 10 seconds) to get back into CWM. Again, it can't be tethered - no usb/no charging.
Bootloop.
Try holding down power for 10 seconds.
I have already done the update. It won't power off and I can't get back into CWM.
Quote from: Farabomb on April 26, 2012, 01:29:11 PMBootloop.
Try holding down power for 10 seconds.
Tried it for about 30 seconds. Nothing.
Brick...
Don't listen to Dave and try and reseat the SD card.
hmmm... Mine booted to the cyanogen logo, and then did a setup routine similar to an out-of-the-box state. Oh... and it made a buzzing noise, and sounded like the hard drive was going to go "click." Then I went back into CWM and installed the audio update and it was 'fixed.' But I rolled back to Froyo because the sd card didn't work for me.
Patience is key with the lepan. It does have a tendency (in FroYo) to stall here and there, but it gets going again if it sits.
The other night I was watching a video I installed on the sd, and it totally locked up. I let it sit on overnight until the battery died. Then, I charged it for a few hours, turned it back on and it ran fine.
a lot of these sort of issues are resolved by reformatting the sd card with a different size swap partition and stuff. You can probably find the recommended partition scheme on xda somewhere. My Viewsonic shipped with a partition scheme that didn't even work well with their bastard version of android, all kinds of FC all the time. Repartitioning it differently fixed all that.
Hmmm, I may have to try that. My phone shipped with a class 2 card that was not keeping up with the video camera. Went and bought a class 10 and just formatted from the phone but it seems to be slowing up. Might be time to dump it and reformat.
try to find specific format scheme for your rom and device, they are obviously not the same. Some run better with EXT2 and... you get the picture.
Also on my tablet it has an internal "SD CARD" which is not removable but behaves like a separate volume, and it also has a sd card slot. So really 2. I don't have a removable in it and with certain roms it freaks it out by not having the external in there.
Samsung has it's own format (RFS) and there is also EXT4 that android takes natively. I've run both and on Froyo EXT4 makes worlds of difference, on GB not so much. I'm waiting for a new official kernel before I start jacking around with the internal FS.
I did the GB update on my phone, and it totally kicks ass. It used to drop the wi-fi all the time, but now it's more stable, and it runs more apps than it did before.
Quote from: Farabomb on April 26, 2012, 01:42:11 PMDon't listen to Dave and try and reseat the SD card.
Tried that. No go.
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 26, 2012, 01:51:28 PMhmmm... Mine booted to the cyanogen logo, and then did a setup routine similar to an out-of-the-box state. Oh... and it made a buzzing noise, and sounded like the hard drive was going to go "click." Then I went back into CWM and installed the audio update and it was 'fixed.' But I rolled back to Froyo because the sd card didn't work for me.
Patience is key with the lepan. It does have a tendency (in FroYo) to stall here and there, but it gets going again if it sits.
The other night I was watching a video I installed on the sd, and it totally locked up. I let it sit on overnight until the battery died. Then, I charged it for a few hours, turned it back on and it ran fine.
I think I may have to let it run until the battery is dead or pop the back cover off and unhook the battery so it will power off. Nothing I've tried yet will let me back into the CWM software. I can reset it by using the reset button but the Vol - and power button do nothing like putting it into the CWM program.
Quote from: t-pat on April 26, 2012, 03:08:16 PMtry to find specific format scheme for your rom and device, they are obviously not the same. Some run better with EXT2 and... you get the picture.
Also on my tablet it has an internal "SD CARD" which is not removable but behaves like a separate volume, and it also has a sd card slot. So really 2. I don't have a removable in it and with certain roms it freaks it out by not having the external in there.
CWM formatted everything during the install. That mod is specific for the Le Pan TC970 tablet so I would think they are formatting it correctly.
Quote from: t-pat on April 26, 2012, 01:57:06 PMa lot of these sort of issues are resolved by reformatting the sd card with a different size swap partition and stuff. You can probably find the recommended partition scheme on xda somewhere. My Viewsonic shipped with a partition scheme that didn't even work well with their bastard version of android, all kinds of FC all the time. Repartitioning it differently fixed all that.
Oh yeah, booted without the SD Card and still just get to the Cyanogen logo and there it sits.
which build of upgrade did you use? i think there's a v9, but i used the v7
there should be another key combo to boot into the plain old recovery/update mode (not cwm) - on mine it is volume down vs volume up, same as on my htc phone. This gets you to a menu where you can "boot recovery"
if you have a file called "update.zip" in the root of the sd card the device will load that by default in this mode so you don't probably want to do that.
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 26, 2012, 03:50:19 PMwhich build of upgrade did you use? i think there's a v9, but i used the v7
V7.
Digi...bookmark this link. It's how to recover from a bootloop on the Le Pan. I'm back into the CWM mod right now. Will try to restore my backup and go at it again.
http://lepanlife.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=432 (http://lepanlife.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=432)
Quote from: t-pat on April 26, 2012, 04:05:00 PMthere should be another key combo to boot into the plain old recovery/update mode (not cwm) - on mine it is volume down vs volume up, same as on my htc phone. This gets you to a menu where you can "boot recovery"
if you have a file called "update.zip" in the root of the sd card the device will load that by default in this mode so you don't probably want to do that.
Yes, just found it. It is hit reset and then hold VOL + when the Le Pan logo comes on the screen.
Restore worked. Back in Froyo right now. That's a relief. Now back in to do it again! :laugh:
Success!!!
Running Gingerbread. Not sure I care for the interface. I think I like Froyo better. Phone options that don't really need to be there since it's not a phone.
The SD card is working fine.
The applications screen has a big vertical line running through it.
The Le Pan buttons on the side of the console...the Back button and Menu buttons work. The Home and Search buttons do not. You have to use the Home and Search buttons in the taskbar at the bottom of the screen. A lot of the configuration screens have a weird background. Looks like blocks of corruption. I think maybe it might be because the display is only using 256 colors instead of thousands or millions. I swear this interface is for a phone. Not a tablet. More to come as I discover more.
Quote from: Joe on April 26, 2012, 05:28:25 PMSuccess!!!
Running Gingerbread. Not sure I care for the interface. I think I like Froyo better. Phone options that don't really need to be there since it's not a phone.
The SD card is working fine.
The applications screen has a big vertical line running through it.
The Le Pan buttons on the side of the console...the Back button and Menu buttons work. The Home and Search buttons do not. You have to use the Home and Search buttons in the taskbar at the bottom of the screen. A lot of the configuration screens have a weird background. Looks like blocks of corruption. I think maybe it might be because the display is only using 256 colors instead of thousands or millions. I swear this interface is for a phone. Not a tablet. More to come as I discover more.
A restart fixed the Home and Search buttons not working and the weird video/background display issues. All look great now. I've hidden most of the phone stuff so it doesn't get in the way.
I love the ADW Launcher. There a re a ton of themes for it including a MAC OS X theme which makes it look like an iPad...sort of. The more I fiddle and configure the more I am liking it. I think it may stick.
The only things not working supposedly is the camcorder and GPS. I tried both. The camcorder looked like it was working but then crashed. GPS, it says it is searching for GPS but not finding it so I assume GPS is not working. Maybe in the next rev.
The version I used, which the SD Card is working fine:
CM7 Beta 5 Download link HERE (Mirror) (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=11b3df0ff8e972ceb1e95eaf9a21ca22&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.forum.lepanlife.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ftid%3D95&v=1&libid=1335490890275&out=http%3A%2F%2Ffiles.inbox.lv%2Fticket%2Fe969e3ae778b35f7590c693a0149e6a18b9680b3%2Fupdate-cm-7.2.0-RC1-griffin-Beta5-sign.zip&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.forum.lepanlife.com%2Fforumdisplay.php%3Ffid%3D7&title=%5BROM%2FDISCUSSION%5D%20CM7%20Alpha%2FBeta%20Builds&txt=%3Cspan%20style%3D%22font-weight%3A%20bold%3B%22%3ECM7%20Beta%205%20Download%20link%20HERE%20(Mirror)%20%3C%2Fspan%3E&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13354908984993)
Make sure and wipe the cache and app/data before flashing the .zip. That is what caused me to go into the bootloop. (Not doing it that is)
Quote from: Joe on April 26, 2012, 05:28:25 PMThe Le Pan buttons on the side of the console...the Back button and Menu buttons work. The Home and Search buttons do not. You have to use the Home and Search buttons in the taskbar at the bottom of the screen. A lot of the configuration screens have a weird background. Looks like blocks of corruption. I think maybe it might be because the display is only using 256 colors instead of thousands or millions. I swear this interface is for a phone. Not a tablet. More to come as I discover more.
told you about the phone stuff... the design of the lepan with the buttons on the side is annoying, as you mostly have it rotated, and the buttons are right where you put your hands when holding.
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 26, 2012, 10:00:52 PMQuote from: Joe on April 26, 2012, 05:28:25 PMThe Le Pan buttons on the side of the console...the Back button and Menu buttons work. The Home and Search buttons do not. You have to use the Home and Search buttons in the taskbar at the bottom of the screen. A lot of the configuration screens have a weird background. Looks like blocks of corruption. I think maybe it might be because the display is only using 256 colors instead of thousands or millions. I swear this interface is for a phone. Not a tablet. More to come as I discover more.
told you about the phone stuff... the design of the lepan with the buttons on the side is annoying, as you mostly have it rotated, and the buttons are right where you put your hands when holding.
I agree they would have been better at the bottom of the screen when in landscape mode. I'm sure they put them there thinking most people would use it in Portrait mode. Even then, if I turn it to Portrait mode with the buttons at the bottom the menus are sideways. So yeah, not a great design but for $199 what can you expect?
The more I've configured things the better I like it. My wi-fi router here at work is all the way back in the server room. I'm only showing one bar on the strength meter but it connected fine and has not dropped once tonight and I've had it on all night. Like I said in my other post, the SD card is working fine. Battery power is doing great too. It's been on battery all evening and I still show about 40% power. And that is with an aquarium Live wallpaper with fish swimming around running.
I'm probably going to stick with GB. It seems faster and less loss of wi-fi. I've made a backup with CWM where I have Froyo and another I've made tonight of GB so it's fairly painless to switch between the two now.
Sweet, there are both free remote apps for the Roku and XBMC. I'm all over that...
Yea, I bought a roku remote app and they released the official one a few weeks later. :angry:
I've run ADW launcher and it's pretty good but I was having redraw issues with it so I went to go launcher.
I knew you would sort it Joe. I looped my phone the first time I tried to root it. There was a bit of nervousness but I flashed the factory image and was back up. Now That I understand it better I flash without worry. Pick up a backup app (mybackup root or Ti backup) and backup your app data from time to time. Saves you from having to restart angry birds if something goes funky. Wiping cache and the davlik cache after flashing anything is a good idea. The davlik will cause it to take longer to boot but it cleans up a lot of little leftover shit.
I haven't tried the Roku app yet. The XBMC one works great but using a tablet like a remote isn't ideal. Too big and goes to sleep and you have to wake it if you want to pause, FF, RW or anything else. I could turn sleep off I guess. I wish I could put it on my phone. (Tracfone...don't ask :laugh: )
The CWM 7 update installed ADW launcher I guess. It's OK but I'm not committed to it. I had the screen issues after booting the first time but a re-boot fixed it. I found if I try the camcorder and it crashes, and it does if you try to use it, I get the funky screen issues and then have to re-boot to make the display look normal again. If I wanted to switch to Go Launcher, any idea how I would disable AWD Launcher to use GO instead?
I do have TI Backup now. I like it better than the first one I tried.
Overall I'm quite pleased with the $199.00 tablet running Gingerbread. It does have fingerprint issues on the glossy screen but I think all tablets would. For now I'll give 4 out of 5 stars. Maybe 4.5 if it holds up over time.
Backup the data for ADW just in case you want to go back. Download GOlauncher and install. When you hit the home button it should give you the choice of what launcher you want to use.
Quote from: Joe on April 27, 2012, 08:59:58 AMOverall I'm quite pleased with the $199.00 tablet running Gingerbread. It does have fingerprint issues on the glossy screen but I think all tablets would. For now I'll give 4 out of 5 stars. Maybe 4.5 if it holds up over time.
Roku app works as a GREAT remote. I got an anti-glare screen protector - works great. yes there are fingerprint issues all over the backside, but it's something you jut have to deal with. Still have freezing issues from time to time, and the wifi doesn't "wake up" well when it's been sleeping. A solid 3.5 out of 5, but maybe a 4 because of the price.
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 27, 2012, 07:41:36 PMQuote from: Joe on April 27, 2012, 08:59:58 AMOverall I'm quite pleased with the $199.00 tablet running Gingerbread. It does have fingerprint issues on the glossy screen but I think all tablets would. For now I'll give 4 out of 5 stars. Maybe 4.5 if it holds up over time.
Roku app works as a GREAT remote. I got an anti-glare screen protector - works great. yes there are fingerprint issues all over the backside, but it's something you jut have to deal with. Still have freezing issues from time to time, and the wifi doesn't "wake up" well when it's been sleeping. A solid 3.5 out of 5, but maybe a 4 because of the price.
Fingerprint issue on the back? You mean the anti-glare screen helps with the fingerprint issue on the FRONT? What kind of anti-glare screen did you get?
Since upgrading to GB I haven't had a single lockup or dropped wi-fi connection.
I never liked the matte protectors but that was only on phones. Look to see if you can find an oleophobic one. They tend to not attract the oils that most do.
Quote from: Joe on April 27, 2012, 08:22:21 PMQuote from: DigiCorn on April 27, 2012, 07:41:36 PMQuote from: Joe on April 27, 2012, 08:59:58 AMOverall I'm quite pleased with the $199.00 tablet running Gingerbread. It does have fingerprint issues on the glossy screen but I think all tablets would. For now I'll give 4 out of 5 stars. Maybe 4.5 if it holds up over time.
Roku app works as a GREAT remote. I got an anti-glare screen protector - works great. yes there are fingerprint issues all over the backside, but it's something you jut have to deal with. Still have freezing issues from time to time, and the wifi doesn't "wake up" well when it's been sleeping. A solid 3.5 out of 5, but maybe a 4 because of the price.
Fingerprint issue on the back? You mean the anti-glare screen helps with the fingerprint issue on the FRONT? What kind of anti-glare screen did you get?
Since upgrading to GB I haven't had a single lockup or dropped wi-fi connection.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LDJERQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LDJERQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00)
the back is loaded with fingerprints. not much you can do about it. went out of town for a three-day weekend, and the kid played with it in the back seat. it held up pretty good!
any thoughts on the Le Pan vs. the Kindle Fire? I was going to get the wife a kindle for her bday in a few weeks, but heard they are kind of laggy. im kind of leary about off-brand electronics..
Delooch, we still love our Fire, not having issues really, maybe 2 lockups and 2 times it seemed laggy (fixed by restart) and we've been using it quite a while now.
When I first got the Le Pan everything seemed great. After a few days I kept losing the wi-fi. Not actually dropping the connection but it would just stop working. Had to close the wi-fi connection and re-start it to get it going again. Then after I rooted it and installed Gingerbread all seemed great again. Then on Saturday I started losing my wi-fi again. Again, not actually dropping the connection but it would just stop working. At this point I would only recommend the Le Pan for someone that likes screwing around with this kind of stuff. Not for someone that just wants a tablet to use everyday.
On the loosing wi-fi. I have a N600 router that on only one of my laptops has issue connecting. Roku, phones, other laptops, xbox360 ect has no issues, only the big laptop. Could it be the router? My brother has been having connection issues and a $20 refurb router seems to have solved his issues.
Not saying it's not the tablet radio just don't rule out it being the router.
Quote from: Farabomb on April 30, 2012, 12:38:27 PMOn the loosing wi-fi. I have a N600 router that on only one of my laptops has issue connecting. Roku, phones, other laptops, xbox360 ect has no issues, only the big laptop. Could it be the router? My brother has been having connection issues and a $20 refurb router seems to have solved his issues.
Not saying it's not the tablet radio just don't rule out it being the router.
I was having wi-fi router issues with my Belkin on all devices. Bought a new Netgear and have no issues with other devices. Just the Le Pan. Funny thing is though I don't have any issues with a fresh OS install. Just a few days after that do I start getting connection issues.
my viewsonic gtablet is made for screwing around with and maybe using every day. Came with some bastard rom that you couldn't use the regular Android Market with, so we've got home rolled roms out there in every version of Android, some work great but the camera and mic don't work, others work ok and all hardware works. I've just loaded ICS on it and we'll see. Games don't seem to work but video does. Camera doesn't work, nor does mic.
Ditto on the LePan and the wi-fi. I counted it up, and I can have up to 12 wi-fi devices hitting my router at the same time, but I don't think that's the issue. My Android phone had wi-fi issues on FroYo and I went to GB and it went away. Not sure i this would fix the LePan or not. It was fun doing the backup and GB upgrade on the LePan, but I liked FroYo better. I might try GB again later, once I get the SD card working on it. Overall, though, I like the LePan, even though it doesn't have the variety of working apps as an iPad, but I'm sure it has more options than the Fire.
One of the preinstalled apps on the LePan is a Kindle app.
good info to know. she doesnt tinker, so ill probably stay with the kindle. she just wants the $99 e-reader anyway, but i figure $200 gets a functional android tablet as well.
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 30, 2012, 01:05:09 PMDitto on the LePan and the wi-fi. I counted it up, and I can have up to 12 wi-fi devices hitting my router at the same time, but I don't think that's the issue. My Android phone had wi-fi issues on FroYo and I went to GB and it went away. Not sure i this would fix the LePan or not. It was fun doing the backup and GB upgrade on the LePan, but I liked FroYo better. I might try GB again later, once I get the SD card working on it. Overall, though, I like the LePan, even though it doesn't have the variety of working apps as an iPad, but I'm sure it has more options than the Fire.
One of the preinstalled apps on the LePan is a Kindle app.
Ummmwhat? Have you browsed Google Play? There are only about a zillion different apps you can install.
you may just want to get her the e-reader if that is what she wants, because the Kindle e-reader has many advantages over any tablet, as an e-reader. Like, battery life off the charts, readability at all angles and levels of bright light, and the damn thing just WORKS without tinkering whatsoever.
That said I hear the Fire is pretty nice too, and if you want you can load a different rom on it to get full Market and whatever.
edit: I got my wife her Kindle I years ago and she still uses it every single day, without any complaints or tinkering. I have a tablet she is just like "meh" on the tablet.
Quote from: Joe on April 30, 2012, 01:08:23 PMQuote from: DigiCorn on April 30, 2012, 01:05:09 PMDitto on the LePan and the wi-fi. I counted it up, and I can have up to 12 wi-fi devices hitting my router at the same time, but I don't think that's the issue. My Android phone had wi-fi issues on FroYo and I went to GB and it went away. Not sure i this would fix the LePan or not. It was fun doing the backup and GB upgrade on the LePan, but I liked FroYo better. I might try GB again later, once I get the SD card working on it. Overall, though, I like the LePan, even though it doesn't have the variety of working apps as an iPad, but I'm sure it has more options than the Fire.
One of the preinstalled apps on the LePan is a Kindle app.
Ummmwhat? Have you browsed Google Play? There are only about a zillion different apps you can install.
But nothing I'm looking for. LOL.
Actually, my wife put a bunch of stuff on her iPad for the kid (Sprout, PBS Kids, etc.), and I tried to install the same apps on the LePan so the kid would leave the iPad alone. Unfortunately, the Android apps are different and some of them aren't there at all, and the kid still prefers the iPad.
Not only is Google naming their OS after delicious things, they are doing it in alphabetical order. As to why they are doing this, they won't say why. In fact, who knows why Google does ANYTHING. Also why did they skip the first two letters of the alphabet? Or are their Apple-Fritter and Banana-Split operating systems lost in the shuffle?
The OS is pretty good though, that is if you plan on your Android pulling ALL of its information from your Google accounts. Pretty soon you probably won't even be able to make a phone call without having Google PhonCallONomics installed.
Yes they do upgrade fairly easily except for third party programs like Angry Birds for example. And there is always the annoying aspect of an android not being 4g. I have an EVO 4g and I'm lucky to get one g. I assume connectivity and integration is much better with tablets, though, which I have yet to purchase.
I hear a lot less people complaining about their iPad, but by going apple you miss out on getting hungry every time you mention your OS.
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 30, 2012, 01:20:27 PMQuote from: Joe on April 30, 2012, 01:08:23 PMQuote from: DigiCorn on April 30, 2012, 01:05:09 PMDitto on the LePan and the wi-fi. I counted it up, and I can have up to 12 wi-fi devices hitting my router at the same time, but I don't think that's the issue. My Android phone had wi-fi issues on FroYo and I went to GB and it went away. Not sure i this would fix the LePan or not. It was fun doing the backup and GB upgrade on the LePan, but I liked FroYo better. I might try GB again later, once I get the SD card working on it. Overall, though, I like the LePan, even though it doesn't have the variety of working apps as an iPad, but I'm sure it has more options than the Fire.
One of the preinstalled apps on the LePan is a Kindle app.
Ummmwhat? Have you browsed Google Play? There are only about a zillion different apps you can install.
But nothing I'm looking for. LOL.
Actually, my wife put a bunch of stuff on her iPad for the kid (Sprout, PBS Kids, etc.), and I tried to install the same apps on the LePan so the kid would leave the iPad alone. Unfortunately, the Android apps are different and some of them aren't there at all, and the kid still prefers the iPad.
So, you're getting another iPad? :laugh:
Quote from: StrutzinInc on April 30, 2012, 06:03:54 PMNot only is Google naming their OS after delicious things, they are doing it in alphabetical order. As to why they are doing this, they won't say why. In fact, who knows why Google does ANYTHING. Also why did they skip the first two letters of the alphabet? Or are their Apple-Fritter and Banana-Split operating systems lost in the shuffle?
The OS is pretty good though, that is if you plan on your Android pulling ALL of its information from your Google accounts. Pretty soon you probably won't even be able to make a phone call without having Google PhonCallONomics installed.
Yes they do upgrade fairly easily except for third party programs like Angry Birds for example. And there is always the annoying aspect of an android not being 4g. I have an EVO 4g and I'm lucky to get one g. I assume connectivity and integration is much better with tablets, though, which I have yet to purchase.
I hear a lot less people complaining about their iPad, but by going apple you miss out on getting hungry every time you mention your OS.
Welcome to the forums StrutzinInc...
Yes I do worry about google being all up in my business but at least I can modify my phone the way I want. With iOS, not so much. The future will tell on that one.
I haven't had any issues upgrading, I have all 4 AB games. As far as 4g goes, I have a 4g LTE Charge and it's stupid fast, in some cases faster than what's available to the house from the telco. The OC has nothing to do with it's ability to handle 4LTE data speeds, it has all to do with the radios in the phone. ATT recently did a patch that made people think their iPhones got 4g when there is no iPhone out with a 4g radio. It all has to do with your cell service and reception. If you're not in a 4LTE area you won't be seeing 4LTE speeds.
My friend loves his iPad, I personally won't ever get one becasue I think they are far to costly for the hardware inside. I'm also a lot more familiar with android and it's open nature.
Tried the Le Pan last night and no loss of wi-fi at all and I left it on all evening. Weird.
gtablets have a "sleep of death" issue that may be similar to your wifi scenario, in that the tablet goes to sleep but will not "wake", it has to be powered on. The remedy is to use an overclocking program that can set the minimum cpu speed one step higher than default, this cures the sleep issue totally.
Maybe look in that direction for the wifi issue, it may be dropping due to a perceived sleep situation.
sadly the bastards that make the things can't or won't do a "fix all." the iPad does kick ass, but no flash, and it's got a hefty price tag. the LePan is pretty sweet for the price, but not as many "cool" apps, and won't play hulu. was out of town this weekend, and needed both to remain entertained.
Quote from: DigiCorn on May 01, 2012, 09:10:03 AMsadly the bastards that make the things can't or won't do a "fix all." the iPad does kick ass, but no flash, and it's got a hefty price tag. the LePan is pretty sweet for the price, but not as many "cool" apps, and won't play hulu. was out of town this weekend, and needed both to remain entertained.
Hulu or Hulu Plus?
Quote from: t-pat on May 01, 2012, 09:02:29 AMgtablets have a "sleep of death" issue that may be similar to your wifi scenario, in that the tablet goes to sleep but will not "wake", it has to be powered on. The remedy is to use an overclocking program that can set the minimum cpu speed one step higher than default, this cures the sleep issue totally.
Maybe look in that direction for the wifi issue, it may be dropping due to a perceived sleep situation.
Saturday when it was losing the wi-fi it was during use. In the middle of downloads even so there was no sleep involved then unless it just thought it was sleeping for some reason. Last night I let it sleep several times and each time I woke it up I had working wi-fi. Like I said, weird.
You can do hulu thru plex, $5
Quote from: Joe on May 01, 2012, 09:25:09 AMQuote from: DigiCorn on May 01, 2012, 09:10:03 AMsadly the bastards that make the things can't or won't do a "fix all." the iPad does kick ass, but no flash, and it's got a hefty price tag. the LePan is pretty sweet for the price, but not as many "cool" apps, and won't play hulu. was out of town this weekend, and needed both to remain entertained.
Hulu or Hulu Plus?
Either... or both... There's no app for that, and it doesn't work over the web browser.
ahem.... works in PLEXXxxxxxxXXX - for android.
ah! i already "own" plex. this is the beauty of android - on apple, if you buy an app, and then need to download it on a second or third device you have to buy it again. on android, as long as you use the same login, you can download and install again and again.
I "own" an .apk for it :)
To the bar!
Quote from: DigiCorn on May 01, 2012, 09:37:31 AMah! i already "own" plex. this is the beauty of android - on apple, if you buy an app, and then need to download it on a second or third device you have to buy it again. on android, as long as you use the same login, you can download and install again and again.
I don't think this is true since they went to the cloud.
Quote from: DigiCorn on May 01, 2012, 09:37:31 AMah! i already "own" plex. this is the beauty of android - on apple, if you buy an app, and then need to download it on a second or third device you have to buy it again. on android, as long as you use the same login, you can download and install again and again.
or just jailbreak it and get installous!
Quote from: DigiCorn on May 01, 2012, 09:37:31 AMah! i already "own" plex. this is the beauty of android - on apple, if you buy an app, and then need to download it on a second or third device you have to buy it again. on android, as long as you use the same login, you can download and install again and again.
That statement is incorrect. Once you purchase an app or a song, etc... you have the right to sync it to 5 devices with no additional cost. I know this because we have 4 iPhones in the house and never buy multiple copies.
Quote from: Earendil on May 01, 2012, 10:54:57 AMQuote from: DigiCorn on May 01, 2012, 09:37:31 AMah! i already "own" plex. this is the beauty of android - on apple, if you buy an app, and then need to download it on a second or third device you have to buy it again. on android, as long as you use the same login, you can download and install again and again.
That statement is incorrect. Once you purchase an app or a song, etc... you have the right to sync it to 5 devices with no additional cost. I know this because we have 4 iPhones in the house and never buy multiple copies.
Then I royally got F'ed in the A because I let my daughter play with my iPhone and she lost it. Just found it last weekend and the battery was dead. On recharge it was acting all wonky, and since I didn't need it, I reset it back to factory settings. Then, using the same account, I tried to sync it with iTunes, and it made me pay for several of the apps over again.
Quote from: DigiCorn on May 01, 2012, 11:19:22 AMQuote from: Earendil on May 01, 2012, 10:54:57 AMQuote from: DigiCorn on May 01, 2012, 09:37:31 AMah! i already "own" plex. this is the beauty of android - on apple, if you buy an app, and then need to download it on a second or third device you have to buy it again. on android, as long as you use the same login, you can download and install again and again.
That statement is incorrect. Once you purchase an app or a song, etc... you have the right to sync it to 5 devices with no additional cost. I know this because we have 4 iPhones in the house and never buy multiple copies.
Then I royally got F'ed in the A because I let my daughter play with my iPhone and she lost it. Just found it last weekend and the battery was dead. On recharge it was acting all wonky, and since I didn't need it, I reset it back to factory settings. Then, using the same account, I tried to sync it with iTunes, and it made me pay for several of the apps over again.
Did they buy you dinner before the "event"? :laugh:
Quote from: Joe on May 01, 2012, 11:25:14 AMQuote from: DigiCorn on May 01, 2012, 11:19:22 AMQuote from: Earendil on May 01, 2012, 10:54:57 AMQuote from: DigiCorn on May 01, 2012, 09:37:31 AMah! i already "own" plex. this is the beauty of android - on apple, if you buy an app, and then need to download it on a second or third device you have to buy it again. on android, as long as you use the same login, you can download and install again and again.
That statement is incorrect. Once you purchase an app or a song, etc... you have the right to sync it to 5 devices with no additional cost. I know this because we have 4 iPhones in the house and never buy multiple copies.
Then I royally got F'ed in the A because I let my daughter play with my iPhone and she lost it. Just found it last weekend and the battery was dead. On recharge it was acting all wonky, and since I didn't need it, I reset it back to factory settings. Then, using the same account, I tried to sync it with iTunes, and it made me pay for several of the apps over again.
Did they buy you dinner before the "event"? :laugh:
I got a Groupon™
but it was expired.
was that a groupon or grope-on?
:laugh: :laugh:
Pretty sure once you buy something on google play it's tied to the email you used. If you get another device and are using the same email and it's compatible you still have it.
Forgot this little tidbit. Go get the amazon appstore for android. Every day there is a free paid app. Most suck but I've gotten a whole lot of good apps for free.
Quote from: Farabomb on May 01, 2012, 11:46:27 AMPretty sure once you buy something on google play it's tied to the email you used. If you get another device and are using the same email and it's compatible you still have it.
Forgot this little tidbit. Go get the amazon appstore for android. Every day there is a free paid app. Most suck but I've gotten a whole lot of good apps for free.
this is true.
One of my favorite apps is the Amazon price check scanner. Our local Fry's matches internet pricing, and almost everything I scan with the app is lower priced than in the store. I have literally saved $100s with that app.
Quote from: DigiCorn on May 01, 2012, 11:19:22 AMQuote from: Earendil on May 01, 2012, 10:54:57 AMQuote from: DigiCorn on May 01, 2012, 09:37:31 AMah! i already "own" plex. this is the beauty of android - on apple, if you buy an app, and then need to download it on a second or third device you have to buy it again. on android, as long as you use the same login, you can download and install again and again.
That statement is incorrect. Once you purchase an app or a song, etc... you have the right to sync it to 5 devices with no additional cost. I know this because we have 4 iPhones in the house and never buy multiple copies.
Then I royally got F'ed in the A because I let my daughter play with my iPhone and she lost it. Just found it last weekend and the battery was dead. On recharge it was acting all wonky, and since I didn't need it, I reset it back to factory settings. Then, using the same account, I tried to sync it with iTunes, and it made me pay for several of the apps over again.
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Quote from: Farabomb on May 01, 2012, 11:46:27 AMPretty sure once you buy something on google play it's tied to the email you used. If you get another device and are using the same email and it's compatible you still have it.
Forgot this little tidbit. Go get the amazon appstore for android. Every day there is a free paid app. Most suck but I've gotten a whole lot of good apps for free.
It's the same way with Apple and iTunes store... don't know what happened in Corn's case. I've had to restore a device... key in the email and password and everything synced back up, no problems.
"pay for apps" :laugh:
Quote from: delooch on May 01, 2012, 12:37:20 PM"pay for apps" :laugh:
That's how I feel about weed. :laugh:
F U
... and apps are cheaper than kronik, so I'm still coming out ahead.
Quote from: DigiCorn on May 01, 2012, 11:59:31 AMOne of my favorite apps is the Amazon price check scanner. Our local Fry's matches internet pricing, and almost everything I scan with the app is lower priced than in the store. I have literally saved $100s with that app.
That's why Best Buy is folding.
I've shopped in best buy, I don't feel it's that much of a loss. Seems the big electronic stores close down only a little less than furniture stores. Remember Crazy Eddie? The Wiz? Circuit City? CompUSA?
Quote from: DigiCorn on May 01, 2012, 11:59:31 AMOne of my favorite apps is the Amazon price check scanner. Our local Fry's matches internet pricing, and almost everything I scan with the app is lower priced than in the store. I have literally saved $100s with that app.
I use one called RedLaser and you're right, they kick ass. A lot of places will come down on their price if you show them the results.
Best Buy is folding because they are ripoff artists Supreme. I was just reading a story yesterday about HDMI cables. A six foot one will run you $27 at Walmart or Target. Best buy sells their own name brand 6 foot HDMI cable for $499.99. You can buy it at Monoprice for $2.50. Walmart and Target are ripping you off. Best Buy is raping you.
Quote from: Joe on May 01, 2012, 03:21:58 PMBest Buy is folding because they are ripoff artists Supreme. I was just reading a story yesterday about HDMI cables. A six foot one will run you $27 at Walmart or Target. Best buy sells their own name brand 6 foot HDMI cable for $499.99. You can buy it at Monoprice for $2.50. Walmart and Target are ripping you off. Best Buy is raping you.
I get my HDMI cables at Fry's. A brand new 6-foot runs about $4.99
Really? I don't even know what an HDMI cable is. :laugh: I just read this thread in case it gets jacked and I miss something good.
heehee... you said, jacked.
i was reading up on the Fire and Nook, looks like nook is the way to go, however i found the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 (7") for only $249 - i still have a boner over the Samsung Galaxy smartphone, i think im going samsung again.
just by coincidence ( :toaster: ) i got an email from amazon last night trying to sell the lePan tablet & the lePan 2
Quote from: delooch on May 03, 2012, 10:33:31 AMi was reading up on the Fire and Nook, looks like nook is the way to go, however i found the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 (7") for only $249 - i still have a boner over the Samsung Galaxy smartphone, i think im going samsung again.
just by coincidence ( :toaster: ) i got an email from amazon last night trying to sell the lePan tablet & the lePan 2
I played with the Fire at Best Buy yesterday, just to see how it compares to the LePan. For the price, you get more with the LePan: bigger screen, more apps, flash, more memory, better resolution, greater brightness, plus the LePan has a Kindle app preinstalled for ebooks. The only thing the Fire offered was longer battery time... and not by much.
I would not recommend the tablet I have despite the attractive specs and price. Viewsonic Gtablet.
Granted I got it for $169 and it is a 10.1" screen with the Tegra2 processor, good storage, USB slot, etc. Screen viewing angle is abysmal and the rom situation is kinda wonky.
In hindsight I would have bought a 7" tablet with similar power and specs.
If you have $$$ I wouldn't recommend the LePan because it does have a tendency to lock up, and compared to other Android devices, it runs fewer apps. But for $199, and it's feature list and capabilities it really can't be beat.
I've got 12 HD movies (720) loaded on the sd card, plus about 100 apps. I've had to delete a few apps that didn't run properly, including a few paid apps. Luckily, Android has a refund policy, and it's fairly simple.
This is my tablet...
(http://www.navycs.com/gallery2/d/6396-2/fukitol.jpg)
Quote from: gnubler on May 03, 2012, 02:30:59 PMThis is my tablet...
(http://www.navycs.com/gallery2/d/6396-2/fukitol.jpg)
:lmao:
Quote from: DigiCorn on May 03, 2012, 11:11:21 AMIf you have $$$ I wouldn't recommend the LePan because it does have a tendency to lock up, and compared to other Android devices, it runs fewer apps. But for $199, and it's feature list and capabilities it really can't be beat.
I've got 12 HD movies (720) loaded on the sd card, plus about 100 apps. I've had to delete a few apps that didn't run properly, including a few paid apps. Luckily, Android has a refund policy, and it's fairly simple.
STOP, FFS! :police:
What? ".... it is feature list and capabilities..."
SAAAAAAAAAH-REY. geez.
Just a typo. But in most cases the apostrophe indicates possession, which would have worked in this situation... as in the feature list belongs to the tablet.
English sux!
Don't be hatin' on the British now.
Bullocks.
Quote from: gnubler on May 04, 2012, 02:11:11 PMBullocks. Bollocks
since we're nitpicking...fixd - unless you mean:
(http://www.filmyfriday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Sandra-Bullock.jpg)
or
(http://dashingduchesses.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/cosmetics06-bullock.jpg)
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bollocks (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bollocks)
Wouldn't this be Bullocks?
(http://www.filmyfriday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Sandra-Bullock.jpg) (http://www.filmyfriday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Sandra-Bullock.jpg)
Quote from: gnubler on May 04, 2012, 02:35:20 PMWouldn't this be Bullocks?
(http://www.filmyfriday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Sandra-Bullock.jpg) (http://www.filmyfriday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Sandra-Bullock.jpg)
Wow!!! Double your fun with Sandra! I approve of this! :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:
There was already 2 things in the original pic, that's all I saw anyway ;)
Her elbows?
Quote from: gnubler on May 04, 2012, 02:58:01 PMHer elbows?
mmmyeah, what now? I was distracted. :laugh:
Got my stylii (styluses?) from China yesterday. That only took about 5 weeks. Bought from Amazon - it was 3 for $1.54 or something like that, and since I bought the tablet at the same time, shipping was free. First time I used it, the "rubber" marred the screen and left tracks all over the screen protector. It wiped right off, but I wouldn't use it again. Seems to be just the one stylus doing this - the others "write" on the screen without issue.
You get what you pay for.
even with 2 of them being good it's still a good deal.
There is no deal in supporting slavery. Enjoy your cheap crap.
Quote from: gnubler on May 08, 2012, 09:10:18 AMThere is no deal in supporting slavery. Enjoy your cheap crap.
It
is cheap crap. That's why I bought it. I didn't need it, but what the hell - it's only $1.54, right?
Like I said, it shipped directly from China. How much did they spend on postage? More than $1.54, I bet.
Doomed.™
Quote from: gnubler on May 08, 2012, 09:10:18 AMThere is no deal in supporting slavery.
We should know, we work in prepress.
Quote from: gnubler on May 08, 2012, 09:10:18 AMThere is no deal in supporting slavery. Enjoy your cheap crap.
How is that Apple computer you are using?
I didn't buy it. The one I have at home was a private sale. Apple made $0 off me.
They still used slave labor to build it and they were compensated for the hardware at some point.
That sounds like someone that loves to eat meat but protests the killing of animals. That's OK because they personally didn't kill the animal. :laugh:
Or the tree huggers who love money (what's your paycheck printed on?)... or the animal rights people who wear leather
:popcorn:
We are in a time where people can be choosy about minor shit. The GF's sis is a vegan but she doesn't loose her mind and make a scene if she orders something out and it happens to have cheese on it. She'll scrape it off and continue on with the meal. It's the ones that loose their mind and make a scene need to be shot. They are doing it for the status, not for the real reasons.
No worries, when the zombie apocalypse comes the fat bastards will go down first. Vegans will either see the power of the darkside and become omnivores like we should be.
picked up an annoying but cool little gadget for remote control of android devices - Sony LiveView Remote Display. Caught an Ebay daily deal for $19.99 incl. shipping. It's a cool little display you can wear as a watch (I'm not going to, that would be pretty lame) , has a color remote and capacitive touch sides on it that function as buttons. Use it to control music player, as a remote gauge display for Torque (car computer app), read email or facebook stuff, dial contacts, whatever.
Used to be expensive but like many gadgets, the original firmware sucked and so it didn't work well with non-Sony phones. It does not work "great" but after a bit of futzing with it, it does do what I'm trying to do with it. Sony released a *(really well buried and hard to find)* new firmware for it so it is not as bad as it was.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/28/sony-ericsson-liveview-acts-as-a-1-3-inch-remote-control-for-you/ (http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/28/sony-ericsson-liveview-acts-as-a-1-3-inch-remote-control-for-you/)
I'm sure this isn't the fastest computer on the planet but if you want a desktop computer powered like a tablet without the expense of Apple or Microsoft...at $399.99 it is a pretty good price.
ViewSonic VSD220 22-Inch (21.5-Inch Vis) Full HD 1080p LED Touchscreen Smart Display and Android 4.0 ICS All-in-One (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00906HOEK/ref=amb_link_367828302_16?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-10&pf_rd_r=15P30NC3XRX3801CTNFX&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1447050702&pf_rd_i=759498#desktops)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71-%2Bb8aKbPL._AA1500_.jpg)
Quote from: Farabomb on May 08, 2012, 12:13:19 PMwhen the zombie apocalypse comes the fat bastards will go down first. Vegans will either see the power of the darkside and become omnivores like we should be.
LOL. I missed that one originally. LIKE! :laugh:
oh, that nexus 7 is impressive for the price. super-responsive, i like it. my only gripe is the lack of a front facing camera, but i have a real camera for that stuff.
added ES File explorer to browse the lan, i can stream anything off the shared HDD to the tablet flawlessly. my only mistake is not getting a screen protector and cover for it right away, every time the kids touch it i freak out.
delooch, do you run skype on your nexus? I can't get the camera to work
Yea, the woman has a case on backorder but I have a screen protector coming today. Overall I really like it but I wish there was a SD slot. I've soft bricked it twice playing around, it's rooted and running a different ROM with CWM. One thing that does piss me off is I tried to use it as a GPS yesterday but it's saying I need a data plan.
you would need a data plan or wifi connection for google maps to pull map info. However, you can preload map data in Maps while you are on wifi, and choose how big of an area. Also you can load some standalone map program that comes with map data. Should be able to tether it with your phone though and just get data via that, that's what my boss does with his nexus in his truck.
I was trying but fighting morons in the snow was more important yesterday. I'm going to give it a shot here in a minute.
Quote from: DigiCorn on December 27, 2012, 11:45:56 AMdelooch, do you run skype on your nexus? I can't get the camera to work
havent ever tried skype - i used google+ hangouts for video chat - works flawlessly on my pc/galaxy/nexus tablet. i really like it because your device will still alert you if you have an incoming request, even if the app isnt running
Quote from: Farabomb on December 27, 2012, 11:58:36 AMYea, the woman has a case on backorder but I have a screen protector coming today. Overall I really like it but I wish there was a SD slot. I've soft bricked it twice playing around, it's rooted and running a different ROM with CWM. One thing that does piss me off is I tried to use it as a GPS yesterday but it's saying I need a data plan.
i had to reset mine already just from dumping all kinds of apps on there to see what it could do. i did exchange my 16 for the 32 gb version - the SD expansion would be nice, but im gonna have to learn to stream instead of local storage. i havent had any issues with GPS so far, but i do miss the dedicated home/property buttons like on my galaxy. im kind of bummed about the cameras, not sure why they left off the rear camera, but i dont really use it that much..
rumor has it they are releasing another $99 version of the nexus in february/march
we should do a b4p hangout, I've never done one actually.
Well the tethering works a treat with the nav.
I got used to the navigation bar but it was really throwing me for a loop in the beginning. I have some micro SD cards and a USB OTG cable so with that, root and stick mount I have tons of storage but I really would have liked more than 32g.
Quote from: t-pat on December 27, 2012, 12:21:47 PMwe should do a b4p hangout, I've never done one actually.
Like, forealz? I still think Amarillo is a good meeting spot for about 80% of us. I think F-bomb is farthest away. :cry:
Is there a way to create a hotspot without going through your cellular provider?
Quote from: DigiCorn on December 27, 2012, 01:48:50 PMIs there a way to create a hotspot without going through your cellular provider?
on rooted phones, yes. The app "Wifi Tether" works on my SGS3 T-Mo
Quote from: gnubler on December 27, 2012, 01:46:07 PMQuote from: t-pat on December 27, 2012, 12:21:47 PMwe should do a b4p hangout, I've never done one actually.
Like, forealz? I still think Amarillo is a good meeting spot for about 80% of us. I think F-bomb is farthest away. :cry:
I think he meant a Google+ Hangout.
Try FoxFi. Seems to work well on non-rooted phones. I use WiFi Tether on the S3.
Quote from: Joe on December 27, 2012, 02:05:48 PMQuote from: gnubler on December 27, 2012, 01:46:07 PMQuote from: t-pat on December 27, 2012, 12:21:47 PMwe should do a b4p hangout, I've never done one actually.
Like, forealz? I still think Amarillo is a good meeting spot for about 80% of us. I think F-bomb is farthest away. :cry:
I think he meant a Google+ Hangout.
I don't do that.
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Quote from: Farabomb on December 27, 2012, 02:10:48 PMTry FoxFi. Seems to work well on non-rooted phones. I use WiFi Tether on the S3.
It says FoxFi not available on AT&T. Going to try wifi tether - is it the one by innodro or the one by müller, lemons, buxton?
Quote from: DigiCorn on December 27, 2012, 02:35:31 PMQuote from: Farabomb on December 27, 2012, 02:10:48 PMTry FoxFi. Seems to work well on non-rooted phones. I use WiFi Tether on the S3.
It says FoxFi not available on AT&T. Going to try wifi tether - is it the one by innodro or the one by müller, lemons, buxton?
I tried wifi tether, but it also did not work. Then I tried Barnacle, which is also not available on AT&T. Then I got one called "Portable Wifi Hotspot," which tethers only when the phone is on 3/4G - not on wifi.
If you are close to a WiFi, why would you need to tether? I only use it when I'm mobile so I can get data on the nexus.
Quote from: Farabomb on December 27, 2012, 02:52:33 PMIf you are close to a WiFi, why would you need to tether? I only use it when I'm mobile so I can get data on the nexus.
scroll - what good is nav if you're sitting by a wifi? Do you need to be told "You are here"?
One of our customers had to call a family member to come to his office and help him open his email to look at a PDF proof we emailed him.
Quote from: Farabomb on December 27, 2012, 02:52:33 PMIf you are close to a WiFi, why would you need to tether? I only use it when I'm mobile so I can get data on the nexus.
I want it for travel - my tablets are only wifi - no 3/4G. When I travel, I want to tether the tablets to my phone; I have unlimited data, and if I change my plan to add the tethering option through AT&T, I'll lose the unlimited data, plus it costs a shitload more to do it
their way.
you're not the only one, it's about the single most compelling reason to root your phone, if FoxFi doesn't work for you.
What's really interesting to me is when I got my last phone originally, it shipped with a free wifi tethering app that worked fine. Then T-mo pushed an over the air update which made it so it only worked if you paid them extra $$. Fortunately I'd rooted the phone before this and was immune to the OTA.
Here is FoxFi
http://foxfi.com/bin/ (http://foxfi.com/bin/)
It should work. With wireless tether you need root.
I also recommend anyone with a android device to install the amazon appstore. There is a free app every day and while most aren't the best you can get some real gems like swiftkey for free.
Even on a rooted android, FoxFi and Barnacle both won't work with AT&T. Upon trying to download (from the web - not though google play) you get an error on installation that says "not available for this carrier."
[edit] On Google Play, you get the "not available..." message before you can even download it.
I installed "Portable wifi hotspot." https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.core.technology.wifi.hotspot
It seems to be working. I'll have to put it through a full test at home later. If you get the error screen, then you can spoof your user agent to get around that.
or just root the phone. Mobile Odin Pro is your friend. I think you can do the whole process on the phone, but don't quote me.
Quote from: t-pat on December 27, 2012, 03:25:07 PMor just root the phone. Mobile Odin Pro is your friend. I think you can do the whole process on the phone, but don't quote me.
I'm telling you, it is rooted. Those apps don't work on ATT.
yeah, but you're drunk too
jus sayin' :shrug:
Quote from: gnubler on December 27, 2012, 02:17:41 PMQuote from: Joe on December 27, 2012, 02:05:48 PMQuote from: gnubler on December 27, 2012, 01:46:07 PMQuote from: t-pat on December 27, 2012, 12:21:47 PMwe should do a b4p hangout, I've never done one actually.
Like, forealz? I still think Amarillo is a good meeting spot for about 80% of us. I think F-bomb is farthest away. :cry:
I think he meant a Google+ Hangout.
I don't do that.
Me either.
Is it time??? Tell me it's time!
Quote from: DigiCorn on December 27, 2012, 03:39:08 PMQuote from: t-pat on December 27, 2012, 03:25:07 PMor just root the phone. Mobile Odin Pro is your friend. I think you can do the whole process on the phone, but don't quote me.
I'm telling you, it is rooted. Those apps don't work on ATT.
I see a trip to XDA-Developers for you... Sure someone has done it and written it up on there.
Quote from: t-pat on December 27, 2012, 04:29:43 PMQuote from: DigiCorn on December 27, 2012, 03:39:08 PMQuote from: t-pat on December 27, 2012, 03:25:07 PMor just root the phone. Mobile Odin Pro is your friend. I think you can do the whole process on the phone, but don't quote me.
I'm telling you, it is rooted. Those apps don't work on ATT.
I see a trip to XDA-Developers for you... Sure someone has done it and written it up on there.
Like I said, using Portable wifi hotspot™. Seems to be fine. Bookmarked XDA months ago.
Quote from: DigiCorn on December 27, 2012, 04:52:35 PMQuote from: t-pat on December 27, 2012, 04:29:43 PMQuote from: DigiCorn on December 27, 2012, 03:39:08 PMQuote from: t-pat on December 27, 2012, 03:25:07 PMor just root the phone. Mobile Odin Pro is your friend. I think you can do the whole process on the phone, but don't quote me.
I'm telling you, it is rooted. Those apps don't work on ATT.
I see a trip to XDA-Developers for you... Sure someone has done it and written it up on there.
Like I said, using Portable wifi hotspot™. Seems to be fine. Bookmarked XDA months ago.
Good, I don't even look in the s3 AT&T thread because the t-mo version is completely different and using any of the info from the AT&T thread could result in a brick.
gonna try one of these just for fun:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/390519639642?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1431.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/390519639642?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1431.l2649)
amazing they can cram all of that crap in a matchbox-size stick
Quote from: delooch on December 31, 2012, 11:47:25 AMgonna try one of these just for fun:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/390519639642?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1431.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/390519639642?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1431.l2649)
amazing they can cram all of that crap in a matchbox-size stick
yeah I'm sort of fascinated with those myself. Just haven't pulled the trigger due to lack of real need. Might be better for netflix than using the browser on my htpc, but then if that's all I need it for I could get another Roku for the living room for around the same price.
It's really compelling though. I could see some great carputer applications for that. It'd be a nice solution to drive my MAME cabinet as well, low power consumption and all that. Not sure it would support the controller but it might.
Quote from: t-pat on December 31, 2012, 11:58:02 AMQuote from: delooch on December 31, 2012, 11:47:25 AMgonna try one of these just for fun:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/390519639642?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1431.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/390519639642?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1431.l2649)
amazing they can cram all of that crap in a matchbox-size stick
yeah I'm sort of fascinated with those myself. Just haven't pulled the trigger due to lack of real need. Might be better for netflix than using the browser on my htpc, but then if that's all I need it for I could get another Roku for the living room for around the same price.
It's really compelling though. I could see some great carputer applications for that. It'd be a nice solution to drive my MAME cabinet as well, low power consumption and all that. Not sure it would support the controller but it might.
im thinking if i can get over the mouse & keyboard controller - it could beat a media center PC setup with the right apps. plus, you can run (i hope) most of the apps for android OS on the TV.. if i can score one for under $40 shipped, ill give it a try.
i was going to take the Roku route, but since ive discoverd "allshare" on my samsung blu-ray players, its kind of eliminated all the need for the extra streaming hardware i was going to invest in. I dont stream much from netflix or hulu, i just need to access my media library on the home server. finally going to give PLEX a run too..
Plex was buggy as a player for me, and I'm using a couple other things that I'm not entirely happy with either.
I think that android on a stick has USB right? If it does, a wireless USB keyboard/touchpad should work fine with it as it behaves just like a wired keyboard as far as the host is concerned.
I got one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Perixx-PERIBOARD-710-Wireless-Super-Mini-Keyboard/dp/B002LI4V0Y (http://www.amazon.com/Perixx-PERIBOARD-710-Wireless-Super-Mini-Keyboard/dp/B002LI4V0Y)
recently and I really like it for the htpc. I've got a couple other keyboard/touchpad combos but this one seems to work the best as far as signal strength.
Quote from: t-pat on December 31, 2012, 12:13:22 PMPlex was buggy as a player for me, and I'm using a couple other things that I'm not entirely happy with either.
I think that android on a stick has USB right? If it does, a wireless USB keyboard/touchpad should work fine with it as it behaves just like a wired keyboard as far as the host is concerned.
I got one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Perixx-PERIBOARD-710-Wireless-Super-Mini-Keyboard/dp/B002LI4V0Y (http://www.amazon.com/Perixx-PERIBOARD-710-Wireless-Super-Mini-Keyboard/dp/B002LI4V0Y)
recently and I really like it for the htpc. I've got a couple other keyboard/touchpad combos but this one seems to work the best as far as signal strength.
yeah, it has a standard and mini USB jack. ive also got a keyboard/touchpad similar to the one you have, except i use it on the xbox 360.
(side note: i now use smartglass from MS.. control your 360 through your tablet/smartphone) keyboard is awesome, but the touchpad gives me fits. ive got another BT keyboard/mouse setup, im hoping that thing might recognize the BT dongle. Not sure how extensive the android device driver library is..
It doesn't have bluetooth onboard? I swear I've seen ones that do
I think I have 4-5 different bt dongles at home, one of them should work and they're not being used for anything else at this point. Gave up on bt audio and mice a long time ago.
If you are going to run Plex be aware that Plex has a separate client and server app. You have to be running the server to feed the clients. I have XBMC running through an SQL database for client/server. Works like DirecTV whole Home networking but the ROKU can't use XBMC so I had to setup a Plex server to feed the Roku the same content that XBMC is serving to my Win 7 PC hooked up to my TV and my HTPC in the back bedroom. The Plex server requires a lot of resources, ie...CPU and Ram so you need to be sure you have a decent PC to run the server.
I was running plex client and server on my quad core dell, it "worked" but not really smoothly. Like stuff wouldn't show up, and the interface kinda annoyed me. I need to wipe that machine at some point and see if I can get the performance better on it. I could see running the server for Roku, but the wife's the only one who really uses that and she watches netflix on it primarily.
I've been trying out Media Portal and so far I like it but need to set up some add-ons for it. Nothing has worked for me as well as Boxee did when it was supported and still worked 100%
Quote from: t-pat on December 31, 2012, 12:28:22 PMIt doesn't have bluetooth onboard? I swear I've seen ones that do
i dont see BT spec'd on the one i bid on, but ive never seen these anywhere.
after clicking on your kb link, i see theres a whole bunch available on amazon - may try that route if ebay bid falls through.
Joe: thanks for the heads up, didnt know plex was a resource hog. i barely touch the box that it will live on, its just a file server.
right now im just browse directories and click the file i want to play. it works for me, but the wife cant make any sense of it. thats why i was considering PLEX so she could have it presented to her in some sort of fashion...
Quote from: delooch on December 31, 2012, 12:51:08 PMQuote from: t-pat on December 31, 2012, 12:28:22 PMIt doesn't have bluetooth onboard? I swear I've seen ones that do
i dont see BT spec'd on the one i bid on, but ive never seen these anywhere.
after clicking on your kb link, i see theres a whole bunch available on amazon - may try that route if ebay bid falls through.
Joe: thanks for the heads up, didnt know plex was a resource hog. i barely touch the box that it will live on, its just a file server.
right now im just browse directories and click the file i want to play. it works for me, but the wife cant make any sense of it. thats why i was considering PLEX so she could have it presented to her in some sort of fashion...
Try XBMC unless she is using a ROKU. As long as your files are on the network XBMC can serve them up and it's much less resource hungry than Plex.
Took another stab at configuring Media Portal yesterday. I'm over it. Still using Boxee for what it still works for, which is just playing a file in a directory using an interface I can read from my couch. I'd much rather just be using VLC but the interface is not designed for the fifteen foot experience.
I just want a decent software frontend for Netflix now... and the android one is nice. Might be enough of a reason to buy one of them android on a stick deals.
I've had my eye on this one for awhile. The only reason I haven't bought it is that I don't really need another one. That never stopped me before though. :laugh:
http://www.amazon.com/SainSmart-PC-On-A-Stick-Computer-Processor-Internal/dp/B009A80ADA (http://www.amazon.com/SainSmart-PC-On-A-Stick-Computer-Processor-Internal/dp/B009A80ADA)
Included:
SS808 Android 4.0 Mini PC.
Power adaptor.
Adaptor dongle for mini-USB to USB.
Mini-USB data cable.
HDMI to mini-HDMI cable.
User manual
So.....any opinions on this?
https://www.b4print.com/index.php?topic=6734.msg215957#msg215957 (https://www.b4print.com/index.php?topic=6734.msg215957#msg215957)
With it being that big, I'd want a real computer. I love my nexus 7 becasue it's so small but still big enough to comfortably read on. I am quite interested in the android on a stick though. I may have to pick one of those up if I can find some extra cash laying around.
Quote from: Joe on January 02, 2013, 01:30:34 PMSo.....any opinions on this?
https://www.b4print.com/index.php?topic=6734.msg215957#msg215957 (https://www.b4print.com/index.php?topic=6734.msg215957#msg215957)
I like it, I could see it on an articulating VESA mount in my kitchen, but I opted for a monitor and one of them lil Zotac Atom-powered boxes instead. That Viewsonic probably would have simplified things for me a little, but I like complicated and more wires. Not.
In my brief research on the android-on-a-stick or "AOAS" as I shall dub it now, there seems to be some lower powered devices that specifically say they won't do Netflix. I'd assume a dual core one would be plenty powerful, but something to keep in mind when shaving $5 off the price of something.
Quote from: t-pat on January 02, 2013, 02:00:48 PMQuote from: Joe on January 02, 2013, 01:30:34 PMSo.....any opinions on this?
https://www.b4print.com/index.php?topic=6734.msg215957#msg215957 (https://www.b4print.com/index.php?topic=6734.msg215957#msg215957)
I like it, I could see it on an articulating VESA mount in my kitchen, but I opted for a monitor and one of them lil Zotac Atom-powered boxes instead. That Viewsonic probably would have simplified things for me a little, but I like complicated and more wires. Not.
Quote from: Farabomb on January 02, 2013, 01:38:38 PMWith it being that big, I'd want a real computer. I love my nexus 7 becasue it's so small but still big enough to comfortably read on. I am quite interested in the android on a stick though. I may have to pick one of those up if I can find some extra cash laying around.
Considering it for the wife. She would rather have a full sized computer but with the touch screen. She doesn't like using a mouse. I wish it were upgradeable to Jelly Bean though.
Quote from: t-pat on January 02, 2013, 02:02:13 PMIn my brief research on the android-on-a-stick or "AOAS" as I shall dub it now, there seems to be some lower powered devices that specifically say they won't do Netflix. I'd assume a dual core one would be plenty powerful, but something to keep in mind when shaving $5 off the price of something.
The one I linked (Dual Core 1.6 GHz A9 Processor) has a review saying Netflix HD worked fine on it. For $60 you can't go wrong. The list price says $162.00 though I don't really believe that.
Yea, if it's not upgradable to 4.2 I see no real reason to have it as a computer. The multi user in 4.2 is great. I set the woman up with an account and she can have all her own backgrounds and crap, she loves it. Now if I could stop flashing new ROMs every other day...
Quote from: Farabomb on January 02, 2013, 02:25:35 PMYea, if it's not upgradable to 4.2 I see no real reason to have it as a computer. The multi user in 4.2 is great. I set the woman up with an account and she can have all her own backgrounds and crap, she loves it. Now if I could stop flashing new ROMs every other day...
I only glanced at the link to be honest. I thought it was a similar Viewsonic all in one that ran Windows or whatever (barebones intel hardware) I've seen ones for similar price that would run windows 7/8 or whatever.
then there's this:
http://www.businessinsider.com/intel-cable-2013-1 (http://www.businessinsider.com/intel-cable-2013-1)
I cannot wait.
I can. I didn't even click! :hello:
the headline is:
Intel Is Reportedly Going To Destroy The Cable Model By Offering People The Ability To Subscribe To Individual Channels
My favorite tablet is demerol but i dont forsee any huge pain situation to warrant a prescription anytime soon...
Quote from: t-pat on January 02, 2013, 03:00:15 PMthen there's this:
http://www.businessinsider.com/intel-cable-2013-1 (http://www.businessinsider.com/intel-cable-2013-1)
I cannot wait.
That would be great but I think this guys opinion is more realistic (from the end of that article):
QuoteLast summer, Peter Kafka at All Things D poured cold water on the idea of Intel unbundling. Not only is going to be hard to make it happen, it's unclear if it would even save money for cable subscribers:
Those bundles are core to today's TV ecosystem. And the TV guys insist that consumers really don't want "a la carte" programming, because if they do, the channels/shows they like today will end up costing much, much more.
Disney, for instance, charges TV distributors about $5 for every subscriber that gets ESPN. And, by some estimates, only about 25 percent of cable customers actually watch ESPN on a regular basis. So if you unbundled ESPN, the per-subscriber cost might shoot up to $20 or more, to account for the 75 percent drop in its customer base.
or it'll just adjust itself. Like, if nobody's watching it, cancel the fucker. Same problem with everything, you try to game the system and it fails.
There would be a lot of channels biting the dust if people would be allowed to only pay for the ones they want. Like the 39 shopping channels DirecTV includes in my plan. And the 67 channels of religious zealots spewing their garbage and asking for money they will use to fund their vacation home(s) in the Bahamas.
That's what Jesus would do.
Quote from: Joe on January 02, 2013, 05:13:29 PMThere would be a lot of channels biting the dust if people would be allowed to only pay for the ones they want. Like the 39 shopping channels DirecTV includes in my plan. And the 67 channels of religious zealots spewing their garbage and asking for money they will use to fund their vacation home(s) in the Bahamas.
This would be a bad thing? Only problem I see is the 100 channels of reality TV.
Quote from: pspdfppdfx on January 02, 2013, 04:00:52 PMMy favorite tablet is demerol but i dont forsee any huge pain situation to warrant a prescription anytime soon...
I'm a fan of percocet and vicodin. I have gout and I never forsee it, it just shows up.
I don't even really watch anything on tv when it airs anymore. I DVR, Hulu, Netflix or Amazon everything. And while I have something like 150 channels, I think I watch about 8 of them. And I'm finding that I am down to watching stuff to about 4-6 hours a week now, and about half of that is watching on my Nexus in bed before sleep. I started deleting shows out of the queue because I am 6-8 episodes behind on everything and I know I'll never catch up. The only two shows I watch religiously are the Simpsons and Family Guy.
Quote from: Farabomb on January 03, 2013, 08:40:26 AMQuote from: Joe on January 02, 2013, 05:13:29 PMThere would be a lot of channels biting the dust if people would be allowed to only pay for the ones they want. Like the 39 shopping channels DirecTV includes in my plan. And the 67 channels of religious zealots spewing their garbage and asking for money they will use to fund their vacation home(s) in the Bahamas.
This would be a bad thing? Only problem I see is the 100 channels of reality TV.
No, it would be a good thing. That's why they'll never let something like this happen.
Quote from: DigiCorn on January 03, 2013, 09:39:57 AMI don't even really watch anything on tv when it airs anymore. I DVR, Hulu, Netflix or Amazon everything. And while I have something like 150 channels, I think I watch about 8 of them. And I'm finding that I am down to watching stuff to about 4-6 hours a week now, and about half of that is watching on my Nexus in bed before sleep. I started deleting shows out of the queue because I am 6-8 episodes behind on everything and I know I'll never catch up. The only two shows I watch religiously are the Simpsons and Family Guy.
What are you, 12? :tongue:
He sure drinks a lot for a 12 yr old. :drunk3:
In the space of a week, my kids managed to kill both mine and my husband's iPads. :death:
Now I'm thinking, they were 1st and 2nd generation anyway, and we do still have the Nexus, but what to do? If this was you, would you get another full size iPad, wait for the iPad Mini with Retina?? I'm not a big fan of the Nexus (or my mother's Kindle Fire that I've been providing free tech support on since Xmas :wink:) Anyone familiar with the Samsung Galaxy Tab? Stick with Apple?
I love my Nexus because of Flash, but I like the iPad 3 we have because it's more stable. I sort of believe you need both in your house.
Quote from: JCPenfold on January 15, 2013, 09:07:14 AMIn the space of a week, my kids managed to kill both mine and my husband's iPads. :death:
Now I'm thinking, they were 1st and 2nd generation anyway, and we do still have the Nexus, but what to do? If this was you, would you get another full size iPad, wait for the iPad Mini with Retina?? I'm not a big fan of the Nexus (or my mother's Kindle Fire that I've been providing free tech support on since Xmas :wink:) Anyone familiar with the Samsung Galaxy Tab? Stick with Apple?
When you say "kill" did they physically break them? Or is there a chance of repair at an Apple store. If the just crapped out for an unknown reason and can't be fixed, that would be a reason for me to check another company out. Maybe your kids wouldn't dig the other brands as much and lose interest? Win-win?
Otherwise I haven't used a tablet that works nearly as well as the iPad. I would get the latest iPad. Rumor has it that another update is coming in March FWIW.
I love love love my nexus tablet. im now eyeballing the nexus 10.1, its built by samsung, instead of asus, even a bigger win. Samsung tabs are awseome as well, the touchwiz interface is smooth & sexy, but muchmore $$$ than the nexus 10.1. Still havent been able to jump on the ipad bandwagon, i imagine a bigger iphone, which hasnt really impressed me.
i have a "sandbox" app for the kids on the nexus so they dont jack my OS. before the Nexus, i gave my kids my old 3gs to play with (phone disabled of course) - i never really worried about them messing anything up on the ios like they can on android.
as far as the apps go, its a wash, there isnt really anything that hasnt been duplicated already on either OS. or at least the stuff i use.
to me, its like the "old" days, if you have someone that isnt tech savvy, get the ipad. if you like to tinker, go android.
I loved my iPad. One of the kids (conveniently named "Not Me!") dropped my husband's iPad and the screen came unglued. From what he read online, the odds of fixing it without breaking the glass were slim. "Not Me" also left my iPad on the edge of the tub but behind the shower curtain, and no one saw it til after the shower was running. Yeah none of them wanted to own up to either of those :whip:
Thanks Digi, I guess I know what my tax refund, if I get one this year, is going towards :)
Quote from: delooch on January 15, 2013, 10:57:57 AMI love love love my nexus tablet. im now eyeballing the nexus 10.1, its built by samsung, instead of asus, even a bigger win. Samsung tabs are awseome as well, the touchwiz interface is smooth & sexy, but muchmore $$$ than the nexus 10.1. Still havent been able to jump on the ipad bandwagon, i imagine a bigger iphone, which hasnt really impressed me.
i have a "sandbox" app for the kids on the nexus so they dont jack my OS. before the Nexus, i gave my kids my old 3gs to play with (phone disabled of course) - i never really worried about them messing anything up on the ios like they can on android.
as far as the apps go, its a wash, there isnt really anything that hasnt been duplicated already on either OS. or at least the stuff i use.
to me, its like the "old" days, if you have someone that isnt tech savvy, get the ipad. if you like to tinker, go android.
Maybe it's just because I'm used to iOS, but I feel like I'm always searching for something on the Nexus, where's my email, where's this app, where's Chrome. I don't handle change well :embarrassed:
i gave up on the "which is better" battle a while ago. to each his own, use what works for you.
i was never really a fan of apple until i saw my 5 year old pick up the iphone and just start using it without issue. it never would have happend on an android device. they are popular for a reason. Not to label apple users as "5 year olds" but no doubt it is easy to use.
Quote from: JCPenfold on January 15, 2013, 10:59:00 AMI loved my iPad. One of the kids (conveniently named "Not Me!") dropped my husband's iPad and the screen came unglued. From what he read online, the odds of fixing it without breaking the glass were slim. "Not Me" also left my iPad on the edge of the tub but behind the shower curtain, and no one saw it til after the shower was running. Yeah none of them wanted to own up to either of those :whip:
Thanks Digi, I guess I know what my tax refund, if I get one this year, is going towards :)
Hmmmm...so what would you take for 2 iPads that don't work?
Quote from: Joe on January 15, 2013, 11:31:04 AMQuote from: JCPenfold on January 15, 2013, 10:59:00 AMI loved my iPad. One of the kids (conveniently named "Not Me!") dropped my husband's iPad and the screen came unglued. From what he read online, the odds of fixing it without breaking the glass were slim. "Not Me" also left my iPad on the edge of the tub but behind the shower curtain, and no one saw it til after the shower was running. Yeah none of them wanted to own up to either of those :whip:
Thanks Digi, I guess I know what my tax refund, if I get one this year, is going towards :)
Hmmmm...so what would you take for 2 iPads that don't work?
Hey Joe... the kid totally bricked the LePan. I might offer it up for sale again if I can't fix it.
Quote from: delooch on January 15, 2013, 11:13:31 AMi gave up on the "which is better" battle a while ago. to each his own, use what works for you.
i was never really a fan of apple until i saw my 5 year old pick up the iphone and just start using it without issue. it never would have happend on an android device. they are popular for a reason. Not to label apple users as "5 year olds" but no doubt it is easy to use.
This is true, my now 5 year old son learned how to unlock an iPhone and "play" with it at 1, and he and his 2 year old sister used to fight over the now-dead* iPads constantly.
I think my husband prefers the Nexus anyway, like you said to each their own, I certainly can use it I just don't especially care for it. Like I said, once I get used to something I have hard time changing, but when they first came out I also thought it was just a bigger iPhone and kind of stupid, til we got one and it was so nice reading and emailing and playing games on the couch on a larger screen.
*On the bright side, mine has been sitting in rice and I just heard that it turned back on, so fingers crossed, my iPhone survived falling in the pool once. I do kind of want to upgrade now though, so Joe I'll mention it to the hubby and see what he might want for his and/or both.
**Honestly, I blame my sitter for not watching the kids more closely :banghead:
Quote from: DigiCorn on January 15, 2013, 11:37:09 AMQuote from: Joe on January 15, 2013, 11:31:04 AMQuote from: JCPenfold on January 15, 2013, 10:59:00 AMI loved my iPad. One of the kids (conveniently named "Not Me!") dropped my husband's iPad and the screen came unglued. From what he read online, the odds of fixing it without breaking the glass were slim. "Not Me" also left my iPad on the edge of the tub but behind the shower curtain, and no one saw it til after the shower was running. Yeah none of them wanted to own up to either of those :whip:
Thanks Digi, I guess I know what my tax refund, if I get one this year, is going towards :)
Hmmmm...so what would you take for 2 iPads that don't work?
Hey Joe... the kid totally bricked the LePan. I might offer it up for sale again if I can't fix it.
Two LePans is enough in any household. :tongue:
Quote from: JCPenfold on January 15, 2013, 11:50:02 AMQuote from: delooch on January 15, 2013, 11:13:31 AMi gave up on the "which is better" battle a while ago. to each his own, use what works for you.
i was never really a fan of apple until i saw my 5 year old pick up the iphone and just start using it without issue. it never would have happend on an android device. they are popular for a reason. Not to label apple users as "5 year olds" but no doubt it is easy to use.
*On the bright side, mine has been sitting in rice and I just heard that it turned back on, so fingers crossed, my iPhone survived falling in the pool once. I do kind of want to upgrade now though, so Joe I'll mention it to the hubby and see what he might want for his and/or both.
**Honestly, I blame my sitter for not watching the kids more closely :banghead:
The rice trick does work but I'd give it at least a few days, if not weeks before you keep it on for long periods of time. I had a severe flood in my appt and my computers were under 4" of water. Had all the components in bags with rice and desiccants and in the end I'm still using it.
ill testify to the rice trick. the galaxy im using now took a fully submerged dip in my pool one day. it revived after 3-4 days...
dipped my phone in a margarita...
4 days in rice did the trick
Quote from: david on January 15, 2013, 01:33:26 PMdipped my phone in a margarita...
4 days in rice did the trick
yeah, but was the margarita saved? :drunk3:
I was almost done with it, but yeah, it was good.
I had to make another
:drunk3: ya, it do :drunk3:
rice sounds like a good plan, if you ever need some serious desiccant, relatively cheap, there is a cat litter product made of basically the same silica crystals that real desiccant packages have in them. Can get at Petsmart. It probably would work faster.
woop, there it is
http://www.bittorrentcertifiedbox.com/index.html (http://www.bittorrentcertifiedbox.com/index.html)
Probably could do this without their hardware though.
Quote from: delooch on January 15, 2013, 01:07:59 PMill testify to the rice trick. the galaxy im using now took a fully submerged dip in my pool one day. it revived after 3-4 days...
My Samsung dried out using the rice trick, but the battery wouldn't take a charge afterwards.
Quote from: t-pat on January 16, 2013, 12:33:23 PMwoop, there it is
http://www.bittorrentcertifiedbox.com/index.html (http://www.bittorrentcertifiedbox.com/index.html)
Probably could do this without their hardware though.
so its like a roku box with a bit torrent client?
nice, but ill still need to filter all the downloaded crap, ie cam versoions of stuff labeled as dvd rips... er, i mean, "instructional videos"...
Quote from: delooch on January 16, 2013, 12:40:11 PMer, i mean, "instructional videos"...
You are helping to archive & preserve the artistic history of humankind.
Right?
Quote from: gnubler on January 16, 2013, 12:43:17 PMQuote from: delooch on January 16, 2013, 12:40:11 PMer, i mean, "instructional videos"...
You are helping to archive & preserve the artistic history of humankind.
Right?
absolutely. one 5 minute video clip at a time...
Quote from: delooch on January 16, 2013, 12:40:11 PMQuote from: t-pat on January 16, 2013, 12:33:23 PMwoop, there it is
http://www.bittorrentcertifiedbox.com/index.html (http://www.bittorrentcertifiedbox.com/index.html)
Probably could do this without their hardware though.
so its like a roku box with a bit torrent client?
nice, but ill still need to filter all the downloaded crap, ie cam versoions of stuff labeled as dvd rips... er, i mean, "instructional videos"...
it's an android box, with a bittorrent client integrated into some player frontend. I would imagine it shows listings of videos with available/seeding torrents (assume it ties into TPB and/or other torrent listing sites/engines) and presents them in some sort of searchable/filterable "guide" - which is the novelty. If they make it user friendly, i.e. "15 foot experience" - the software is what I want.
looks like a black mac mini...
Quote from: david on January 16, 2013, 01:47:55 PMlooks like a black mac mini...
at least it doesn't look like a boxee box
I never looked at that before, just looked...
who designed that goofy looking box?
An engineer.
The same type that writes precise measurements for typesetting on his fucking business card.
Quote from: david on January 16, 2013, 02:01:48 PMI never looked at that before, just looked...
who designed that goofy looking box?
probably d-link, killer of all great media boxes. Sad sad story behind Boxee, was great free software that became a doomed, ill conceived piece of hardware, which killed the standalone software.
Quote from: gnubler on January 16, 2013, 02:14:33 PMAn engineer.
The same type that writes precise measurements for typesetting on his fucking business card.
Any trouble from an engineer, just show them this : https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14710196/7tmp.jpg
Quote from: Joe on January 15, 2013, 11:54:37 AMQuote from: DigiCorn on January 15, 2013, 11:37:09 AMQuote from: Joe on January 15, 2013, 11:31:04 AMQuote from: JCPenfold on January 15, 2013, 10:59:00 AMI loved my iPad. One of the kids (conveniently named "Not Me!") dropped my husband's iPad and the screen came unglued. From what he read online, the odds of fixing it without breaking the glass were slim. "Not Me" also left my iPad on the edge of the tub but behind the shower curtain, and no one saw it til after the shower was running. Yeah none of them wanted to own up to either of those :whip:
Thanks Digi, I guess I know what my tax refund, if I get one this year, is going towards :)
Hmmmm...so what would you take for 2 iPads that don't work?
Hey Joe... the kid totally bricked the LePan. I might offer it up for sale again if I can't fix it.
Two LePans is enough in any household. :tongue:
One is too many. Did a factory reset, which repaired the issue. I had to reinstall a lot of the apps, but the stuff on the SD card was fine. It actually runs a little better than it did before.
Quote from: t-pat on January 16, 2013, 01:59:14 PMQuote from: david on January 16, 2013, 01:47:55 PMlooks like a black mac mini...
at least it doesn't look like a boxee box
I thought the Boxee Box, with the neon green monkey was pretty cool. The remote was awesome, with a full keyboard on the flipside. Too bad the thing never worked like it could.
Quote from: t-pat on January 16, 2013, 02:17:29 PMQuote from: david on January 16, 2013, 02:01:48 PMI never looked at that before, just looked...
who designed that goofy looking box?
probably d-link, killer of all great media boxes. Sad sad story behind Boxee, was great free software that became a doomed, ill conceived piece of hardware, which killed the standalone software.
There were a few different Boxee boxes, and D-link made one of them. Not a fan of D-Link. My Boxee Box had potential, but never worked well enough for me to continue pushing. The Roku is a much better option, although you do sacrifice the web browser, but it's about the only thing. With workarounds on the Roku, you can stream almost anything on the web.
I have a Linksys wifi router and one Linksys wireless adapter that work great. I have a D-Link wireless bridge and hub, that always gives me issues. Not sure if it's because it has to sync with Linksys and they don't play nice, or if D-Link is just cheap crap. I'm going with the latter.
The guys on the Boxee forums are all dicks. If you don't understand their code at root level, they feel like you're beneath them and not worth their time. As a noob trying to learn their software, they are not helpful. I even donated to several developers in the process, to beta test apps. Another reason I abandoned it for the Roku.
it's really apples and oranges. Roku plays streaming content great, and does a fairly ok job of streaming local media. The torrent box goes beyond "streaming" and basically makes torrents streaming, in that you look for content via it's menu, and play it.
You don't have to go find the torrent, download it with your computer, extract it if needed, convert it if needed, and stream it with another box or software.
I see it like it should work like this:
Fire up box
Browse available torrents (obviously you need somewhere for it to look for torrents, not sure how that's implemented)
find a thing you like and decide I want to watch *this*
Click play.
Who knows if it actually works that well but that's the idea
Quote from: t-pat on January 18, 2013, 11:38:04 AMbasically makes torrents streaming, in that you look for content via it's menu, and play it.
If it could really do that, and had built-in wi-fi, I'd probably buy one.
Quote from: DigiCorn on January 18, 2013, 11:43:14 AMQuote from: t-pat on January 18, 2013, 11:38:04 AMbasically makes torrents streaming, in that you look for content via it's menu, and play it.
If it could really do that, and had built-in wi-fi, I'd probably buy one.
Connectors:
RCA: 1 Coaxial Output
RJ45: 1 Ethernet
HDMI: 1 Version 1.3
USB: 3 USB 2.0; 1 Mini-USB OTG
Card Slot: 1 SD, MMC and MS combo
Network Interfaces
Ethernet
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Power
Input: 100 - 240 Volt ~ 50/60 Hz 0.2 Amp
Consumption: max 5 Watts
Standby: max 1 Watt
it's too expensive for me right now, if I could set up the software on my basically unused Viewsonic GTablet I'd do it.
Quote from: delooch on December 31, 2012, 11:47:25 AMgonna try one of these just for fun:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/390519639642?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1431.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/390519639642?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1431.l2649)
amazing they can cram all of that crap in a matchbox-size stick
got this thing up and running with one of these for input http://www.amazon.com/FAVI-Entertainment-Wireless-Keyboard-TouchPad/dp/B003UE52ME/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1359396658&sr=8-3&keywords=wireless+keyboard+touchpad (http://www.amazon.com/FAVI-Entertainment-Wireless-Keyboard-TouchPad/dp/B003UE52ME/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1359396658&sr=8-3&keywords=wireless+keyboard+touchpad) - although its small, the touchpad responds well and the keyboard beats the onscreen input.
it works a hell of a lot better than i expected it to, my only complaint is the wireless network signal strength sucks. it was a little laggy from the bedroom, but ulimately, its going to be about 5' from the wireless router.
the os is responsive (android 4.0.1), has play store. plugged in a USB HDD and it plays most of my media through the native player.
havent tried any streaming services, but i dont use them. if this thing had a better CPU, and a power switch, it would be awesome.
its on all the time, but you can power it via USB instead of the AC adapter - i have it running from a USB port on the TV, so it only powers on when the tv is on..
thanks for the review, sounds pretty viable. I'd love to hear how it does on Netflix or other streaming though.
good info on the power via usb too, my tv has a usb port that is pretty useless otherwise and the thought of yet another wall wart behind my media stand scares me.
I have the Roku 1080 on HDMI, so I can't think of anything I'd want an app for that I don't already have access to. Most of the time that I have something on, I don't want to interrupt it to look something up, so that's when I bust out the tablet/phone. The USB on my tv I use when company comes over; I hook up the video/digital camera to it and show pictures. It's a faster setup than trying to stream my stuff through the Roku.