I've got 4 book covers that I want to gang on 1 sheet. I have no training on SignaStation and can't figure out how I can get to the desired layout - see screenshot (front of sheet) for what I'm after. Any guidance appreciated.
not familiar with Signa do you need to lay it as if it's 16pg SS?
just me guessing ;D
The issue is just getting the numbers to land in the right place.
I found a way around it by making them spreads, then I'm only dealing with 4 different 11x8.5 pages and I have an existing layout for that.
I used Preps for 25 years so I'm used to being able to easily renumber pages and I don't think Signa works that way.
;D you have to think like signa
Quote from: DCurry on January 24, 2024, 12:33:15 PMThe issue is just getting the numbers to land in the right place.
I found a way around it by making them spreads, then I'm only dealing with 4 different 11x8.5 pages and I have an existing layout for that.
I used Preps for 25 years so I'm used to being able to easily renumber pages and I don't think Signa works that way.
Is Signa using folding patterns?
Yes, but I don't know if I'm forced to or not. Preps could use them but only if you wanted to.
Yeah that is what I wondering because we never used them with Preps so I thought maybe Signa was forcing you to use them. You can edit folding patterns in Preps but not sure if you can in Signa. In Preps it was a PITA though.
Quick Dirty Fix is to reorder the pages in Acrobat so they fall where they need to in Signa. Never used Signa but this is what I do if I can't get the impo to work as I want.
True, or I could simply assign them to the correct position rather than reorder them. I would like to be able to do it the right way, though. I'm not a huge fan of workarounds as a long term solution.
Are the 4 covers in the same pdf file? Assuming that Vers 1 cover is pages 1-4 in the pdf, Vers 2 cover would be 5-8, etc. If this is correct, then your layout should work.
If you are dealing with separate 4 page covers (4 pdf files), then all 4 versions would be numbered 1-4 and that would make 1 version work but the other 3 would not due to the page numbers not matching the layout numbers.
trying to understand what's not working.
I can't make the pages in Signa reflect the numbers in my screenshot. The screenshot is the layout I want.
oh, I see, sorry for the questions.
I'm guessing it's because you have a 4 up 4 pager layout and it doesn't know how to fold it. Looks like you may be forced to use a folding pattern unless you can do an independent page or something similar. Never used Signa so I'm shooting in the dark.
I can't even get the pages on the sheet!
I think I'm lucky; I have forgotten all I know about SignaStation. The ONLY thing I remember, and it may or may not still be a feature, but your could strip/impose in layers, which is particularly helpful for varnishes and dielines. Beyond that, I remember nothing; it's been 20 years!
It's been a years and I don't have access to Signa, but from what I remember, there are many different ways to do it in Signa.
What you want is Scheme.
There are default schemes that will easily cover what you want but you can create custom scheme and number it however you want.
If you go with 4pg scheme, you can let it "repeat" on a sheet 4 times or create custom 4up covers scheme without repetition where you manually number it, like in Preps.
Sorry I can not be of more help, if I had Signa I would be able to help you out, but this should point you in right direction.
Quote from: DigiCorn on January 24, 2024, 07:49:43 PMI think I'm lucky; I have forgotten all I know about SignaStation. The ONLY thing I remember, and it may or may not still be a feature, but your could strip/impose in layers, which is particularly helpful for varnishes and dielines. Beyond that, I remember nothing; it's been 20 years!
seems like i'm luckier, up until yesterday I hadn't even heard of it ;D ;D
In case you're still playing around with this:
New job - new job/ Product Part - Work Mode - Imposition -16pgs / Master Pages - page size / Binding-Sewn / Marks - your marks/ Plates - Work Style - Sheetwise / Schemes - F04-01_ui_2x1 (in the Standards folder): Schemes part 2 - go to the Press Sheet Layout tab and inside the plate layout area, number the areas with the drop down menu: 1/1(bottom left), 2/2(top left), 3/3(bottom right), 4/4(top right). I also have the Folding Sheet Copies Allowed and Automatic Rotaion selected by default, but don't think it's critical. Fold Lay Mark Position can be Not used or Right.
Hope this helps.