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Title: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: Ear on October 23, 2023, 01:30:19 PM
Hey buddies, I'm back at my original print shop and having trouble with an old Kodak system.

We have a Magnus 400 with an old PC controller. We had to replace the power supply and now the Magnus software won't connect. It tried to initialize then comes up with "XPO error 5164 - TCP/IP error". We have checked cables and everything looks okay... any ideas on things to check on the software end, assuming it isn't just a bad cable? I'm not very familiar with Kodak stuff, especially this old of a masheen.
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: born2print on October 23, 2023, 01:31:13 PM
New phone - who dis?
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: Ear on October 23, 2023, 01:35:33 PM
;D  I told my coworker that I would need at least an hour for the probing before I get an answer, due to my absence. 
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: born2print on October 23, 2023, 01:38:04 PM
Yeah, we'll get to that later.
So not an expert, but I do know that equip is picky about names, like the name of a share vs IP address?
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: Ear on October 23, 2023, 01:40:14 PM
I know how to make plates with the thing but unlike my old setup, I was not part of the install, so I'm in the dark about the connections. It has USB and SCSi connections, pretty ancient setup.
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: born2print on October 23, 2023, 01:56:03 PM
When you restart, try different order? PC then engine or vica versa?
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: Ear on October 23, 2023, 02:02:46 PM
Yep, tried that.

I was nervous about not trying to fix it ourselves, when it first went down but the boss was in a hurry and took it to a repair shop that we trust and they installed the power supply. I'm wondering if they hooked it up to something for diagnostics and screwed up a port ID or something.
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: DigiCorn on October 23, 2023, 02:11:38 PM
What's the IP address on the Magnus? Can you ping it?
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: madbugger on October 23, 2023, 02:13:25 PM
We used to have a Lotem 400, baby version of what you have I think.
I remember vaguely having a similar issue, Creo engineer came in via remote access and resolved it. I think it was a porting issue from memory. Too long ago to remember.
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: Ear on October 23, 2023, 02:18:46 PM
Yes, we can see the Magnus control computer on the network. It starts to initialize the platesetter, turns on and when the production manager comes up and says "The Controller software cannot complete the startup process." and it gives the XPO TCP/IP error.
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: David on October 23, 2023, 03:04:40 PM
sounds like someone changed the old IP address (may have done it so they could connect to see if everything was working), do you know what it was originally so you can check to see?



my .02
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: Joe on October 23, 2023, 03:08:54 PM
Hi Ear...

Is the IP address of the old PC controller still the same as it was before. (David snuck in ahead of me)

What is running on the PC controller? Windows XP?
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: Ear on October 23, 2023, 03:12:00 PM
I agree, David. We are digging to see if we can find what the IP and Port numbers should be.

This thing was on contract and they would just dial in to fix it, but that ended this year, so naturally it is time for it to break.  ::)

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Joe, yes, the PC is running XP. I think it is the same but I'll see what I can find out. 
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: Joe on October 23, 2023, 03:53:07 PM
Is the old PC controller that is running XP seeing the network? Can it access the internet? Can you see that computer on the network from other computers?
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: Ear on October 23, 2023, 04:06:34 PM
Yes, it sees the network and is on the LAN but doesn't have the gateway number and I don't think it can access the "Internet". It's on the prepress network and when I look at network it says it has network access. It has a second network controller and says it has one connection.

It's weird because the controller PC starts the platesetter when you launch the Magness software, gets through part of initialization then shuts the platesetter off and throws an error.

.... hmmm, maybe it is the Araxi server connection and not the platesetter connection? It clearly has some connection to the platesetter but won't complete the init, so maybe it croaks when it tries to access the main Prinergy server...
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: Joe on October 23, 2023, 04:09:36 PM
Try putting the gateway where it is not at. That won't give it internet access unless you add DNS. The place that worked on it may have changed the gateway to test it on their network.
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: Joe on October 23, 2023, 04:11:22 PM
Quote from: Ear on October 23, 2023, 04:06:34 PMYes, it sees the network and is on the LAN but doesn't have the gateway number and I don't think it can access the "Internet". It's on the prepress network and when I look at network it says it has network access. It has a second network controller and says it has one connection.

It's weird because the controller PC starts the platesetter when you launch the Magness software, gets through part of initialization then shuts the platesetter off and throws an error.

.... hmmm, maybe it is the Araxi server connection and not the platesetter connection? It clearly has some connection to the platesetter but won't complete the init, so maybe it croaks when it tries to access the main Prinergy server...
See where the cable on the second network controller goes.
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: DigiCorn on October 23, 2023, 11:23:28 PM
IIRC, the second network controller should go to the Magnus while the first one goes to the outside world and LAN. The second network controller won't have an IP address that matches the rest of the LAN; it will be a different subset. For example, if all the machines on the LAN are 192.168.0.XXX, the 2nd card might be something like 10.10.10.XX, which would match the Magnus IP. If you open up command prompt and type, "arp -a," it will return a list of IP addresses on the LAN. The MAC address cannot be changed, and should be printed on a plate somewhere on the Magnus, so match up the MAC address to the list in the command prompt. Once you have the IP address, you can dial straight into the Magnus and make changes, provided the Magnus has a GUI.
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: Ear on October 24, 2023, 12:03:54 PM
Thanks for the insight guys. I'm pretty sure your guys are on the right track and we got a response from a Kodak tech, so we are going through the settings and hopefully it will be running soon.
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: born2print on October 25, 2023, 12:47:30 PM
:popcorn:
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: David on October 25, 2023, 01:09:07 PM
waiting on a Kodak tech, you may need a movie to go with the popcorn...


:))
Title: Re: Magnus 400 not connecting
Post by: Ear on October 25, 2023, 05:43:36 PM
... or a beer and a bowl. *eer