Quote from: Farabomb on January 09, 2014, 08:05:35 AMI can't continue to battle daily against someone that will contest simple logic.

Sounds like the last dump I worked in. Sometimes you just have to move on and hope that karma takes care of the idiocracy.

I still have to see that movie.

Because of the situation I wish no ill will but someone here NEEDS a wakeup call. The thing is, he can't remember shit so it will only be a temporary fix.

I cannot speak to you again until you've seen this movie.

I thought it was standard fare by now...

Quote from: Farabomb on January 09, 2014, 08:05:35 AMAs soon as I can figure out what direction I want to go. I can't continue to battle daily against someone that will contest simple logic.

The following is a magnet that I picked up some years ago, as it seemed to apply quite highly to our workplace...

Cheers, John the Fontaholic

Quote from: gnubler on January 09, 2014, 09:18:50 AMI cannot speak to you again until you've seen this movie.

I thought it was standard fare by now...

It's not on Netflix or I would have. I do believe I have it on a drive somewhere, just have to find it.

Gonna Thread Jack this back on topic.

In regards to running Bootcamp or VM Ware/Parallels I would recommend running Bootcamp.

Both Parallels and VM run a Virtual PC at the same time as OSX, which is great in most environments, but when also running a rip on top of it, unless you have mega ram (16 or above) and an i5 or i7 quad core processor expect some loooong rip times and a lot of out of memory errors.

With Bootcamp you might have a shot.  Curious to hear how it turns out if you try it.

think i'm gonna try boot camp first since it will be the lower entry fee if it doesn't work. i might have enough horsepower [16gb ram/i5] if needed. our plan is to just schedule better. if i have to log out and log back in to make plates i'm going to burn all the plates we need at once, rather than one here/one there on demand. we try to run all the press work together each week and even then it only runs one or two days a week. the tech rep for one of our dealers is concerned that "rips are heavily registry dependent so the xp simulation might not be compatible", but i'm not sure he's fully grasping the boot camp concept...

Quote from: agent_orange on January 09, 2014, 10:18:21 AM"rips are heavily registry dependent so the xp simulation might not be compatible"

= annual service contract = must be this or that = major money maker = fear = dealer control 

It is not an XP simulation. You actually install XP. Bootcamp is a little more complex setting up than Parallels/VMWare. With Bootcamp you are going to have to re-partition your drive as Bootcamp has to have it's own partition. I agree with Santa that it would be better not to have both OS's running at the same time but I would try something like VirtualBox first since it is free and just to see if you can make it work. You can install XP and run it without activation for a few days and you won't have to re-partition your HD as VirtualBox uses a VDI file as a virtual hard drive. When you are done you just delete the VM along with VDI file and you've lost nothing.

Quote from: Joe on January 09, 2014, 10:47:24 AMIt is not an XP simulation. You actually install XP. Bootcamp is a little more complex setting up than Parallels/VMWare. With Bootcamp you are going to have to re-partition your drive as Bootcamp has to have it's own partition. I agree with Santa that it would be better not to have both OS's running at the same time but I would try something like VirtualBox first since it is free and just to see if you can make it work. You can install XP and run it without activation for a few days and you won't have to re-partition your HD as VirtualBox uses a VDI file as a virtual hard drive. When you are done you just delete the VM along with VDI file and you've lost nothing.

that's what i thought about the "simulation" but wasn't sure enough to challenge him on it. brilliant idea with virtual box. nothing lost and less painful if it doesn't work out. gonna try that...

Quote from: Santa on January 09, 2014, 09:51:54 AMBoth Parallels and VM run a Virtual PC at the same time as OSX, which is great in most environments, but when also running a rip on top of it, unless you have mega ram (16 or above) and an i5 or i7 quad core processor expect some loooong rip times and a lot of out of memory errors.

just checked and the ram requirement for our rip is 2mb [that is not a typo], so we should be pretty good if i need to go parallels/vm route...

agent_orange, see your PM please.

just to update everyone, we ended up buying a used xp machine. it was cheap enough that it made braving the unknowns of boot camp/parallels/etc not worth the hassle. we did end up with the perfect storm, though. had a new digital press get installed/set up/trained on while i was setting up new pc for the platesetter, and we're busier than all hell on top of that. been a crazy couple weeks. now if i can get half a second i might be able to try out all the new bells and whistles on the digital press that the salesman promised is going to "change my life"...

Quote from: agent_orange on January 22, 2014, 08:08:41 PMtry out all the new bells and whistles on the digital press that the salesman promised is going to "change my life"...

Oh, your life could well change; would hazard a bet not in the way the salesman said.   :laugh:

You never know. Some people like pain!