Anyone upgrade to Adobe CC yet? We just had a customer ask if we can take CS7 files...guessing they mean CC as there is no CS7.
Not looking forward to upgrading to CC on 5 workstations!! I am sure the process of upgrading will be painless it is what happens after that I fear! :shoots_self:
No.
Also No.
Negative.
I'm still on 5. Intern is using 6 so I make her add idml files to all her job folders.
We're still using CS4 here... :old:
Cheers, John the Fontaholic
We are attempting to get a mega license for CC (which actually is CS7 if you see a pdf file and get props on it,it will be made by ID CS7).
It gets weird because Adobe changed it from a "seat" license to a license per user.
And with our proxy servers, it gets to be an IT nightmare.
I have been told after Adobe and the QG lawyers get done, we may have it by September... maybe
So, it's PDFs for us or nothing!!!
No also. And Indesign in CC is the next version after 6 whether you want to call it CS7 or CC. And Indy CS6 will not open CS7/CC Indy files without the CS7/CC user either saving as CS4 or later .indd file or saving a .idml file. Still not upgrading.
not yet here. Trying to get Insite and hammer out a new plate contract, so that'll be the next money battle. They're in for a surprise.
Yes. We are currently on a count down to licence lapse due to some kind of company credit card dispute with Abode. 12 days to no apps., unless they sort it out.
When the time comes, the way it works is you each have an Abode login/password. You then manage the apps and downloads from Abode Application Manager, in your Apps folder. You do it all from there, which was not obvious to this poor old sucker initially, as I hadn't twigged that you download from there as well..
We had bigtime angst for a while on logins because the sign-up deal had changed from the initial one, late last year. We seem to be sorted now. Login is usually your work email, in most cases.
Or you purchase A "TEAM" license
where one account supports more than one account.
Less price as well, after the introduction "specials" expire.
MSD
Quote from: WharfRat on July 24, 2013, 08:49:43 PMOr you purchase A "TEAM" license
where one account supports more than one account.
Less price as well, after the introduction "specials" expire.
MSD
Unfortunately ours was being 'admin'd' from head office, so the whole thing was completely opaque to me. Yes, that friggin' 'introductory offer' was the spanner in the works, as far as registration was concerned. When it expired, goalposts moved; login names stuffed up... you name it.
I don't know what particular category we're under, and don't much care, seeing as I have no control/input. Having said that, I feel the urgent need to remind them that countdown to no-apps is 12 days away, unless they sort their payment dispute with Abode. :rolleyes:
Looks like we will not be updating to CC anytime soon. Our largest clients have told us that they will not be updating for some time yet. As we mainly use Illy &PhShop, it will be our clients that will force any changes in the future.
We are on it. One seat. Kept the other station on CS6. Didn't notice much of a difference in my daily workflow other than the flow of money each month for the license.
No CC here. (Hell, I'm at CS4 while my operators are CS6). Just had the FIRST client send a INDD 7 file yesterday (ok---INDD CC) v7 makes more sense though? Why not Pro or iSuite, or Deluxe Platinum? I will probably update ONE license for just INDD 7/CC on a month to month basis until we know if clients are ready to keep sucking the Adobe teat....(they will....). Have not looked at all the licensing options yet.
Thanks for all the replies....I downloaded a trial and one thing I like is that for that insane monthly charge you do get access to ALL the Adobe products.
What I am trying to figure out is if I upgrade three out of our 6 CS6 Design Premiums to CC/CS7 I think we will have the ability to use those 3 on any of the six computers we have. We just would not be able to launch more than 3 at once....does that make sense to anyone? :huh:
floating license is possible?
Quote from: RMPrepress on July 25, 2013, 08:39:57 AMThanks for all the replies....I downloaded a trial and one thing I like is that for that insane monthly charge you do get access to ALL the Adobe products.
What I am trying to figure out is if I upgrade three out of our 6 CS6 Design Premiums to CC/CS7 I think we will have the ability to use those 3 on any of the six computers we have. We just would not be able to launch more than 3 at once....does that make sense to anyone? :huh:
Not legally. You are entitled to activate the apps on two different computers like a laptop/home computer and work computer but not on two different work computers in the same location. The idea is that you cannot be in two locations at one time. If you install one license on two work computers you can run them at the same time. It won't bark at you. But just not legally.
Quote from: WharfRat on July 24, 2013, 08:49:43 PMOr you purchase A "TEAM" license
where one account supports more than one account.
Less price as well, after the introduction "specials" expire.
MSD
After the introduction "specials" the TEAM version is actually $20 per month per user
more expensive. Regular price is $49.99 per month for an individual user and $69.99 per month per user on a TEAM account. I've argued long and loud with the big A over this to no avail.
The only way to get a price break on multiple licenses is if you have over 100 licenses and then it falls under a corporate license.
Quote from: t-pat on July 25, 2013, 09:22:45 AMfloating license is possible?
Not anywhere I have seen.
The whole setup is a 'gotcha by the scr*^al sac', just because you've kinda got no choice. Which was easily predicted, as Quack re-arranged the deck chairs. I think we've arrived. :sad:
Quote from: frailer on July 25, 2013, 04:57:02 PMThe whole setup is a 'gotcha by the scr*^al sac', just because you've kinda got no choice. Which was easily predicted, as Quack re-arranged the deck chairs. I think we've arrived. :sad:
resistance is futile
Quote from: t-pat on July 26, 2013, 09:07:56 AMQuote from: frailer on July 25, 2013, 04:57:02 PMThe whole setup is a 'gotcha by the scr*^al sac', just because you've kinda got no choice. Which was easily predicted, as Quack re-arranged the deck chairs. I think we've arrived. :sad:
resistance is futile
Resistance is, indeed, futile.
Adobe et al._Special pricing (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-29/geo-blocking-mps-committee-price-report-apple-adobe-microsoft/4850484)
QuoteAdobe said it offered a specialised "bespoke" experience for Australian customers.
:lmao:
Quote from: frailer on July 29, 2013, 05:34:15 AMQuote from: t-pat on July 26, 2013, 09:07:56 AMQuote from: frailer on July 25, 2013, 04:57:02 PMThe whole setup is a 'gotcha by the scr*^al sac', just because you've kinda got no choice. Which was easily predicted, as Quack re-arranged the deck chairs. I think we've arrived. :sad:
resistance is futile
Resistance is, indeed, futile.
Adobe et al._Special pricing (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-29/geo-blocking-mps-committee-price-report-apple-adobe-microsoft/4850484)
QuoteAdobe said it offered a specialised "bespoke" experience for Australian customers.
:lmao:
Quotebe·spoke adjective \bi-ˈspōk, bē-\
Definition of BESPOKE
1
a : custom-made <a bespoke suit>
b : dealing in or producing custom-made articles
2
dialect : engaged
See bespoke defined for English-language learners »
Variants of BESPOKE
be·spoke also be·spo·ken
Examples of BESPOKE
<a wealthy man who can easily afford bespoke suits>
<once the last decent-looking woman in town was bespoke, it was time for the luckless bachelor to move on>
Origin of BESPOKE
past participle of bespeak
First Known Use: 1607
I guess it is a "custom" experience because they had to use the Australian version of English? :laugh:
Quote from: frailer on July 29, 2013, 05:34:15 AMQuote from: t-pat on July 26, 2013, 09:07:56 AMQuote from: frailer on July 25, 2013, 04:57:02 PMThe whole setup is a 'gotcha by the scr*^al sac', just because you've kinda got no choice. Which was easily predicted, as Quack re-arranged the deck chairs. I think we've arrived. :sad:
resistance is futile
Resistance is, indeed, futile.
Adobe et al._Special pricing (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-29/geo-blocking-mps-committee-price-report-apple-adobe-microsoft/4850484)
QuoteAdobe said it offered a specialised "bespoke" experience for Australian customers.
:lmao:
Well, yeah. They have to internet it all the way to Australia, that's a long way...... :sarcasm:
Just got our 2nd CC file in a week - and no hardware capable of even running it! Great planning there, Manager Types. :blind:
This should settle what to call it :laugh:
Fucking designers.
Quote from: Tracy on July 31, 2013, 10:03:45 AMThis should settle what to call it :laugh:
Can we just call it "trouble"?
yes :cry:
Quote from: Tracy on July 31, 2013, 10:03:45 AMThis should settle what to call it :laugh:
Hey, that's the same thing
we saw!! :hello: :shoots_self:
Quote from: Joe on July 31, 2013, 10:31:28 AMQuote from: Tracy on July 31, 2013, 10:03:45 AMThis should settle what to call it :laugh:
Can we just call it "trouble"?
I usually just call it a god-damned, effin, sonuvabitchin' pain in the ass, but "trouble" is quicker to say (if less satisfying)... ;)
Cheers, John the Fontaholic
Quote from: Tracy on July 31, 2013, 10:03:45 AMThis should settle what to call it :laugh:
Joseph Heller, rolling in his grave, again. :rolleyes: 'You can open it in version X, but you need version Y to save it back to a version X-openable'.
Those without current CC are now in the situation of pleading with their customers for save-downs or PDFs. And the inverse relationship between up-to-datedness and dezinger skill applies. :death:
Quote from: frailer on July 31, 2013, 05:34:40 PMThose without current CC are now in the situation of pleading with their customers for save-downs or PDFs. And the inverse relationship between up-to-datedness and dezinger skill applies. :death:
...which is probably the majority of users. Fuck, I'm still running CS3/CS4 with no plans to upgrade, ever.
Dezingers are so stupid they seem shocked when asked to downsave or PDF, as if the entire world also updates their software within 18 minutes of an upgrade. KILL THEM.
That's if you can actually get a designer to downsave a file. Most are so clueless that it's almost impossible.
Not that they are smart enough to google how to downsave.
Got this prompt today......
God bless. Good luck explaining how to backsave to the designer.
wondering what it's gonna be like when it goes to CS8
and your on cS6?
Quote from: DHG on August 01, 2013, 01:49:06 PMGot this prompt today......
I call that the rusty fishhook. (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20rusty%20fishhook)
Quote from: frailer on July 31, 2013, 05:34:40 PMQuote from: Tracy on July 31, 2013, 10:03:45 AMThis should settle what to call it :laugh:
Joseph Heller, rolling in his grave, again. :rolleyes: 'You can open it in version X, but you need version Y to save it back to a version X-openable'.
Those without current CC are now in the situation of pleading with their customers for save-downs or PDFs. And the inverse relationship between up-to-datedness and dezinger skill applies. :death:
One of us is smart enough to figure this shit out. If Macroshaft can make a free powerpoint viewer app, and adobe can make the free version of acrobat reader, there's got to be a way to drag-and-drop a newer CC file and save it down to a CS file automatically, without having CC.
All I know is I feel it especially incumbent upon me to watch for pleas like Slappy's now. And work on my turnaround time. :laugh: Sorry, it's not funny. :slapownwrist:
Quote from: frailer on August 01, 2013, 02:33:48 PMAll I know is I feel it especially incumbent upon me to watch for pleas like Slappy's now. And work on my turnaround time. :laugh: Sorry, it's not funny. :slapownwrist:
OK, my 27" iMac is dead and back at the Apple Repair center for who knows how long. Hard drive died so I lost all of my CS6 apps. I do not own CS6 at home but have always used the work 2nd activation for my home iMac. So for now I am using my old iMac and need the Adobe apps so I signed up for a trial of CC (30 days) and I have installed all of the apps. One thing, I think someone asked earlier about installing Acrobat XI and keeping earlier versions, when I installed Acrobat XI it warned me that it would uninstall all previous versions of Acrobat. Anyone else seeing that? I think I'm going to fork over the $29.99 per month for my own copy. My freelance work will cover that easily. So I think I will have CC soon.
Conspiracy.
Quote from: Joe on August 01, 2013, 05:17:12 PMOK, my 27" iMac is dead and back at the Apple Repair center for who knows how long.
OK, that frightens the living bejesus outa me.
Quote from: frailer on August 01, 2013, 08:08:11 PMQuote from: Joe on August 01, 2013, 05:17:12 PMOK, my 27" iMac is dead and back at the Apple Repair center for who knows how long.
OK, that frightens the living bejesus outa me.
2nd time in 10 months for the same issue. Video flicker to no video at all and a dead hard drive. The new hard drive will be the 3rd hard drive in this iMac and assuming they replace the video card again that will be the third video card put in this iMac.
Must have been made on the day after Chinese New Year.
And you wonder why I have PC's. At least I can fix them my damn self.
Quote from: Farabomb on August 02, 2013, 07:44:30 AMAnd you wonder why I have PC's. At least I can fix them my damn self.
:goodpost:
Quote from: Farabomb on August 02, 2013, 07:44:30 AMAnd you wonder why I have PC's. At least I can fix them my damn self.
I could this one too if I wanted to. I paid for Apple Care so I don't have to. It just goes so show that all computers break down. Much to the chagrin of the Apple Fanboys, they are not invincible. And I have plenty of PC's too. :tongue:
Quote from: Joe on August 01, 2013, 08:59:47 PMQuote from: frailer on August 01, 2013, 08:08:11 PMQuote from: Joe on August 01, 2013, 05:17:12 PMOK, my 27" iMac is dead and back at the Apple Repair center for who knows how long.
OK, that frightens the living bejesus outa me.
2nd time in 10 months for the same issue. Video flicker to no video at all and a dead hard drive. The new hard drive will be the 3rd hard drive in this iMac and assuming they replace the video card again that will be the third video card put in this iMac.
Havn't had anything bad happen to mine yet, but I been seeing a couple glitchy's lately, Hope yours comes out ok
I love my 27" iMac!
Quote from: frailer on August 01, 2013, 09:54:30 PMMust have been made on the day after in China ese New Year.
Fixed.
Quote from: Tracy on August 02, 2013, 03:32:23 PMHavn't had anything bad happen to mine yet, but I been seeing a couple glitchy's lately, Hope yours comes out ok
I love my 27" iMac!
... specifically Tracy? Curious. My compadra's one is not used too much on 3 days of the week. Seems to 'freeze' without too much provocation. Unresponsive mouse. Also little flecks start appearing on the display sometimes, about 10 pixels wid by 5 height. I take it they're 100R or 100G in colour, by the looks.
I just routinely run applejack and it comes back to life. Running TechTool disk reveals nothing untoward. :shrug:
That does not sound good. Applejack is probably not fixing any kind of video issue. Probably the reboot fixed it but it may be temporary. These things usually get worse as time goes on.
Yes, I realise I'm whistling in the wind with applejack. Just stuff that can't be detected yet by TechTool.. :sad:
Oh look, another one of our large clients has moved to the Cloud and isn't supplying Print PDFs with their shiny new CS7 files. :lmao:
And of course saving as a CS4 and later .idml file is asking for way too much too, right?
Beats me, I left it for my Mgr to deal with in the morning.
:passthatbuck:
Quote from: Farabomb on August 02, 2013, 07:44:30 AMAnd you wonder why I have PC's. At least I can fix them my damn self.
I'm about ready to just use this HP xw8600 on my desk for everything. It doesn't get 10 kernel panics a day.
Quote from: t-pat on August 06, 2013, 04:29:05 PMQuote from: Farabomb on August 02, 2013, 07:44:30 AMAnd you wonder why I have PC's. At least I can fix them my damn self.
I'm about ready to just use this HP xw8600 on my desk for everything. It doesn't get 10 kernel panics a day.
You say that up until windows gets all uppity and starts pulling it's own version of dumb shit.
Quote from: Farabomb on August 07, 2013, 07:37:58 AMQuote from: t-pat on August 06, 2013, 04:29:05 PMQuote from: Farabomb on August 02, 2013, 07:44:30 AMAnd you wonder why I have PC's. At least I can fix them my damn self.
I'm about ready to just use this HP xw8600 on my desk for everything. It doesn't get 10 kernel panics a day.
You say that up until windows gets all uppity and starts pulling it's own version of dumb shit.
Absolutely. File handling and integrity on Windows leaves a lot to be desired.
Where I used to work we had a workflow based on a PC. It was great when it worked. We used post-RIP files for proofs so jobs would be stored on there. I had a 48pp A5 booklet stored as an 8up impo. Proof was approved so next day I ran it to the platemaker. It had swapped pages 12 and 24. Even the page previews on the RIP looked OK. This kept happening.
I'd rather work on a Mac any day.
I doubt it was the OS that did that. I've seen dumb shit on win 3.11wg, 95, 95se, 98, ME, NT, 2000, linux, unix, OSX, OS9, you name it. I'd blame it more on the coding of the app than the OS.
In the end they all suck.
True, true.
anything doing any heavy lifting is windows based here. There's some problem with our network that the macs are particularly sensitive to. Accessing files on the lan results in frequent kernel panics on most of the macs. It's not a mac problem, but the solution is to not use them because whatever it is, the pcs don't just up and die from it.
We have some retarded setup here, using AdmitMac, Active Directory, and some convoluted crap going on in the server room.
I told the owner that we should deal with it, because we're having a hard time getting our work done. His response, I shit you not, was :
"You wouldn't have any work if we couldn't take the jobs in and write them up, and we do that on windows"
:banghead:
Honestly, I like my Mac pro as a workstation. Does what it should most of the time. I would not have Mac servers though.
Sounds like your IT department is the issue, not the owner.
Quote from: Farabomb on August 07, 2013, 09:23:58 AMHonestly, I like my Mac pro as a workstation. Does what it should most of the time. I would not have Mac servers though.
Sounds like your IT department is the issue, not the owner.
what IT department? He quit, they didn't replace him. Our shop bitch got sick with ALS, they didn't replace him. Our web storefront person quit, they didn't replace her. They fired the bindery manager, didn't replace him.
See a trend here?
Now I really see why you want the fuck out.
Why have people that know what they are doing when you can have one person doing 5 jobs badly?
Quote from: Farabomb on August 07, 2013, 09:39:00 AMNow I really see why you want the fuck out.
Why have people that know what they are doing when you can have one person doing 5 jobs badly?
Well, it goes back further than that even. That's why one of the sons has these job titles:
Production Manager
Purchasing
Pressroom Manager
Scheduler
Estimator
Quote from: Farabomb on August 07, 2013, 09:39:00 AMWhy have people that know what they are doing when you can have one person doing 5 jobs badly?
dont get me started... i frown upon the situation, im doing like 7 fucking jobs, and im union.
still, if they told me to mop the hallway tomorrow, id be doing it with a smile on my face. Just keep those paychecks comin'
Quote from: delooch on August 07, 2013, 10:20:45 AMQuote from: Farabomb on August 07, 2013, 09:39:00 AMWhy have people that know what they are doing when you can have one person doing 5 jobs badly?
dont get me started... i frown upon the situation, im doing like 7 fucking jobs, and im union.
still, if they told me to mop the hallway tomorrow, id be doing it with a smile on my face. Just keep those paychecks comin'
so they got you believing that shit too. "You piece of shit, you can't work anywhere else so suck our cocks for a paycheck"
Quote from: t-pat on August 07, 2013, 10:28:30 AMQuote from: delooch on August 07, 2013, 10:20:45 AMQuote from: Farabomb on August 07, 2013, 09:39:00 AMWhy have people that know what they are doing when you can have one person doing 5 jobs badly?
dont get me started... i frown upon the situation, im doing like 7 fucking jobs, and im union.
still, if they told me to mop the hallway tomorrow, id be doing it with a smile on my face. Just keep those paychecks comin'
so they got you believing that shit too. "You piece of shit, you can't work anywhere else so suck our cocks for a paycheck"
its more like ive done a lot harder work for a lot less pay.
today, im gonna output some crap, dick around on the internet for an hour, diddle around in adobe, take a long lunch, and then spend some more time on b4p. and its 67 degress in the office..
Basically I run the 3 digital presses, program jobs for digital, make plates, preflight, fix/repair files, RIP jobs, plan/strip jobs, answer phones, greet walk-ins, clean the processor/processor maintenance, server/IT/network maintenance, website maintenance, website new product code writing, ftp maintenance, run the wide-format, assemble and proof jobs, and when time allows, help with bindery and deliveries. The only things I don't do are run the press, run the windmill, and pricing/quoting. How many jobs is that? I mean, it's one, for me, with a shitload of expected duties.
The train has jumped the tracks. Move it to prepress rage. :offtopic:
Quote from: DigiCorn on August 07, 2013, 10:45:33 AMBasically I run the 3 digital presses, program jobs for digital, make plates, preflight, fix/repair files, RIP jobs, plan/strip jobs, answer phones, greet walk-ins, clean the processor/processor maintenance, server/IT/network maintenance, website maintenance, website new product code writing, ftp maintenance, run the wide-format, assemble and proof jobs, and when time allows, help with bindery and deliveries. The only things I don't do are run the press, run the windmill, and pricing/quoting. How many jobs is that? I mean, it's one, for me, with a shitload of expected duties.
The train has jumped the tracks. Move it to prepress rage. :offtopic:
Yeah, and DAMN that prepress job working for a large corporation where you go in, do one job, and go home at the end of the day without having to answer phone calls and emails about everything under the sun. Not have to fight for vacation time and have to clean up the ensuing fustercluck when you return.
Quote from: delooch on August 07, 2013, 10:41:23 AMQuote from: t-pat on August 07, 2013, 10:28:30 AMQuote from: delooch on August 07, 2013, 10:20:45 AMQuote from: Farabomb on August 07, 2013, 09:39:00 AMWhy have people that know what they are doing when you can have one person doing 5 jobs badly?
dont get me started... i frown upon the situation, im doing like 7 fucking jobs, and im union.
still, if they told me to mop the hallway tomorrow, id be doing it with a smile on my face. Just keep those paychecks comin'
so they got you believing that shit too. "You piece of shit, you can't work anywhere else so suck our cocks for a paycheck"
its more like ive done a lot harder work for a lot less pay.
today, im gonna output some crap, dick around on the internet for an hour, diddle around in adobe, take a long lunch, and then spend some more time on b4p. and its 67 degress in the office..
Ditto!
me too!
or, ditto2
What's a shop bitch?
English. DO YOU SPEAK IT?
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTXvYpVGVBReMRdp8kU35JwDfhm1XEuyDJ4hHB0Jru8dEIXqk5J) :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: DigiCorn on August 07, 2013, 10:45:33 AMBasically I run the 3 digital presses, program jobs for digital, make plates, preflight, fix/repair files, RIP jobs, plan/strip jobs, answer phones, greet walk-ins, clean the processor/processor maintenance, server/IT/network maintenance, website maintenance, website new product code writing, ftp maintenance, run the wide-format, assemble and proof jobs, and when time allows, help with bindery and deliveries. The only things I don't do are run the press, run the windmill, and pricing/quoting. How many jobs is that? I mean, it's one, for me, with a shitload of expected duties.
The train has jumped the tracks. Move it to prepress rage. :offtopic:
Digi, that is EXACTLY why I am having a talk with the boss when he comes back from vacation. I am constantly told "it's easy" when I'm asked to do other's jobs. Yes, it's YOUR job that's why you think it's easy. Come, sit down behind the Mac and get a job through. It's easy!
I can shittily do everyone's job here. NO ONE can so much as get a proof out or send FTP instructions without my help. How is that possibly fair?
Quote from: gnubler on August 07, 2013, 12:43:14 PMWhat's a shop bitch?
fetchum paper, sweepum floor, checkum in stock, mixum inks, cutum press stock, changeum light bulbs, packum skids, you know.
Quote from: Joe on August 07, 2013, 11:35:49 AMQuote from: DigiCorn on August 07, 2013, 10:45:33 AMBasically I run the 3 digital presses, program jobs for digital, make plates, preflight, fix/repair files, RIP jobs, plan/strip jobs, answer phones, greet walk-ins, clean the processor/processor maintenance, server/IT/network maintenance, website maintenance, website new product code writing, ftp maintenance, run the wide-format, assemble and proof jobs, and when time allows, help with bindery and deliveries. The only things I don't do are run the press, run the windmill, and pricing/quoting. How many jobs is that? I mean, it's one, for me, with a shitload of expected duties.
The train has jumped the tracks. Move it to prepress rage. :offtopic:
Yeah, and DAMN that prepress job working for a large corporation where you go in, do one job, and go home at the end of the day without having to answer phone calls and emails about everything under the sun. Not have to fight for vacation time and have to clean up the ensuing fustercluck when you return.
ha. caught me in hypocracy!
sure i do a lot of shit, and while i don't make buckets of money, i do okay and i do have a lot of freedom because a lot of those tasks don't require constant attention. all in all, i consider my job pretty easy compared with what a lot of other folks do. and while it's hard, honest work, i'm not out in the hot sun digging ditches, or shingling a house. things could be worse. not that those jobs are worse, but they're not for me.
Quote from: t-pat on August 07, 2013, 01:07:32 PMQuote from: gnubler on August 07, 2013, 12:43:14 PMWhat's a shop bitch?
fetchum paper, sweepum floor, checkum in stock, mixum inks, cutum press stock, changeum light bulbs, packum skids, you know.
wipum ass
Quote from: t-pat on August 07, 2013, 01:07:32 PMQuote from: gnubler on August 07, 2013, 12:43:14 PMWhat's a shop bitch?
fetchum paper, sweepum floor, checkum in stock, mixum inks, cutum press stock, changeum light bulbs, packum skids, you know.
...pollish knobs,
Quote from: born2print on August 07, 2013, 01:09:08 PMQuote from: t-pat on August 07, 2013, 01:07:32 PMQuote from: gnubler on August 07, 2013, 12:43:14 PMWhat's a shop bitch?
fetchum paper, sweepum floor, checkum in stock, mixum inks, cutum press stock, changeum light bulbs, packum skids, you know.
...pollish knobs,
no, we have someone else for that, or at least the boss does.
Be honest T-pat, that's the part of you job that you really hate.
Quote from: Farabomb on August 07, 2013, 01:47:49 PMBe honest T-pat, that's the part of you job that you really hate.
...smiling as I sit here eating a banana....
Practicing I see. :lmao:
Quote from: Farabomb on August 07, 2013, 01:56:40 PMPracticing I see. :lmao:
yup, gotta have a backup plan if this new job doesn't come through.
just for fun, i looked up my job description on our HR site. the link points to a shitty scan of a print thats skewed at least 30 degrees. :death:
Guess what we're downloading tomorrow.
:death:
A virus.
Cleverly disguised as an Adobe product.
Quote from: Sabrina The Turd Polisher on August 29, 2013, 12:25:24 PMGuess what we're downloading tomorrow.
:death:
You may want to kick that download off now if you want to see it by tomorrow. :laugh:
she'll see the error message when she gets in on Tuesday that the download failed/timed out
:toaster:
Quote from: Joe on August 29, 2013, 01:11:47 PMQuote from: Sabrina The Turd Polisher on August 29, 2013, 12:25:24 PMGuess what we're downloading tomorrow.
:death:
You may want to kick that download off now if you want to see it by tomorrow. :laugh:
Maybe kick off Friday; pick up Monday.
David saw me and raised me one.
Fuck Creative Cloud.
why?
Because Fuck Abode. That's why.
Quote from: frailer on August 29, 2013, 04:41:09 PMDavid saw me and raised me one.
That's because Monday is a holiday here.
Quote from: Joe on August 29, 2013, 04:52:49 PMQuote from: frailer on August 29, 2013, 04:41:09 PMDavid saw me and raised me one.
That's because Monday is a holiday here.
Of course it is, silly me. Friday 0900 here, awaiting a large download link so I can XMF-it, and turn around 3D and PDF spreads back to NY before close of their day. We need to start printing our Monday. Are the files here? Well no, of course. :rolleyes:
Quote from: DigiCorn on August 29, 2013, 04:41:18 PMFuck Creative Cloud.
why?
Because Fuck Abode. That's why.
Spelling adjusted to kill hotlink. I just have a thing about them.
Quote from: frailer on August 29, 2013, 05:03:18 PMQuote from: DigiCorn on August 29, 2013, 04:41:18 PMFuck Creative Cloud.
why?
Because Fuck Abode. That's why.
Spelling adjusted to kill hotlink. I just have a thing about them.
I'm dyslecix
Waste of time then; didn't need to flag the edit. :laugh:
:laugh: I love this thread.
One of our workstations upgraded to CC a couple months back. About 2 weeks ago it just "stopped working" with no indication why. Turns out Abode deactivated the account because the credit card on file was due to expire at the end of the month. No warning, no easy way to fix the problem. Bosslady ended up on the phone with those cretins for at least an hour each day for 2 days in a row. I overheard bits & pieces...funneh. Still not fixed.
I advised against CC at the time and only now am I being heard. Looks like we're dumping it and will continue to use CS3 & CS5 "forever".
It's all a soften-up job. They're aiming to get peoples' direct bank details, PINs, DOBs, the works... Then there'll be no delays/cut-offs.
FWIW, our own head office had similar problems. In this case boss's credit card was used overseas, but if you don't tell the bank before you leave, withdrawals over a certain amount trigger an anti-fraud stop-card. Oh, and then there was the hitch where they'd signed for an introductory/'trial' discount, but Abode hadn't transitioned over nicely when they opted to continue. I think much time was wasted; not by me, TG.
Unfortunately we've received some CC files the last couple of weeks. We've worked around it but as a printer you know that can't work forever. :cry:
We've thought about setting up a PDF Export setting for our dooshy CC InDesign users so they can supply us with a PDF we can use. They probably won't use it, so why bother.
I really think that Abode haven't bedded in the whole payment thing. Once that's more established maybe it'll have fewer problems where accounts drop off. That's being incredibly kind of me to even think that, I know. Just wishful thinking, as much as anything.
I think the worst of it is the call-centre/live-chat experience. I'd repressed that. Before head office had their woes with them, I'd tried to eliminate issues at my end. Ugly memory, and such a time-waste.
Quote from: gnubler on August 29, 2013, 07:48:41 PMWe've thought about setting up a PDF Export setting for our dooshy CC InDesign users so they can supply us with a PDF we can use. They probably won't use it, so why bother.
I'm here right now making up templates for a customer that is changing their page size. They have two designers. One using CC and the other Quark 8.5 so of course I have to make templates for both. The beauty of it is I get to create two sets of templates that they completely ignore instead of one. :iwin: :shoots_self:
Exactly. :sleepy:
Quote from: Joe on August 29, 2013, 07:34:36 PMUnfortunately we've received some CC files the last couple of weeks. We've worked around it but as a printer you know that can't work forever. :cry:
I'll be telling our customers to supply backsaved files if they use CC. Can't wait for the ruckus. Most of them can't even supply PDFs from their pooplisher files.
Sadly the boss never wants to say no to a file but also doesn't want to spring for CC.
He also never wants to explain to the customer about backsaving so I have a chance of it not going tits up. I have to make it work, I tell him the possible problems and then get yelled it when the file goes all wonky. "We can't afford these mistakes!" and we can't afford to get the software either. :banghead:
People keep asking if we are upgrading and we keep telling them, "Not until we HAVE to."
When they ask if we will support it, we tell them to save as a pdf.
Quote from: DigiCorn on August 30, 2013, 09:16:27 AMPeople keep asking if we are upgrading and we keep telling them, "Not until we HAVE to."
When they ask if we will support it, we tell them to save as a pdf.
We'll be telling most clients to back save to CS6 until we are forced to upgrade by our largest client. They have said that they won't be looking at it in the short-term future.
Got my "link" yesterday; downloaded Indy and Acrobat11, downloading Illy and PS today. :hangme:
Meanwhile production work is still being done with 5.5.
you're almost halfway there... :popcorn:
Quote from: david on September 04, 2013, 07:25:05 AMyou're almost halfway there... :popcorn:
When should she expect the Installation Error messages to start cropping up...? :dev2:
Cheers, John the Fontaholic
any minute now...
10... 9....
8....
7.....
6.....
5.....
Yeah...I've had to quit just about everything... :laugh:
Thought I could tool around in Indy while Bridge, Illy and PS install...NOPE.
What is this Acrobat 11 crap?
Where are the "printing" tools? I can't view separations anymore? Have to use the "old" version to do my job? FU CC!
Is it there but I'm not seeing it?
Good lord...they know how to hide stuff. :death:
Found it when I went to create a "new" tool set.
Quote from: Sabrina The Turd Polisher on September 04, 2013, 10:17:50 AMWhat is this Acrobat 11 crap?
Where are the "printing" tools? I can't view separations anymore? Have to use the "old" version to do my job? FU CC!
Is it there but I'm not seeing it?
Acrobat XI un-installs any previous versions. You should have gotten a message to that effect when you installed it.
Quote from: Joe on September 04, 2013, 11:10:05 AMQuote from: Sabrina The Turd Polisher on September 04, 2013, 10:17:50 AMWhat is this Acrobat 11 crap?
Where are the "printing" tools? I can't view separations anymore? Have to use the "old" version to do my job? FU CC!
Is it there but I'm not seeing it?
Acrobat XI un-installs any previous versions. You should have gotten a message to that effect when you installed it.
Nope, got all three of them... 8,9,11 maybe they changed that?
looky
Hmmm...maybe it only uninstalls X.
Quote from: Joe on September 04, 2013, 11:24:02 AMHmmm...maybe it only uninstalls X.
Which I never installed. :grin:
If you're using Suitcase, then you'll have to update that, too. :death:
Which has probably been mentioned elsewhere...
Suitcase? They still make that? :laugh:
It's used here...although I haven't used it in 7 years before I came here.
Quote from: Joe on September 04, 2013, 11:24:02 AMHmmm...maybe it only uninstalls X.
nope. We went to CC last week, I just downloaded XI today and still have 9 and X installed. I just have to figure out getting Pitstop over to XI now.
I just finally got that 3 months ago... boy things are rolling now.
Quote from: Grimace on September 05, 2013, 01:14:19 PMQuote from: Joe on September 04, 2013, 11:24:02 AMHmmm...maybe it only uninstalls X.
nope. We went to CC last week, I just downloaded XI today and still have 9 and X installed. I just have to figure out getting Pitstop over to XI now.
I just finally got that 3 months ago... boy things are rolling now.
:cry:
DAMN! It must just be me. Adobe hates me!
well....
I didn't want to be the one to tell you Joe, but yea, Adobe hates you.
...and your mother dresses you funny, word on the street... from Adobe
:tongue:
Was Joe the "smelly kid" in school? :hello:
two words... pocket protector
We have updated all of our stations. No problems so far, other than until Universal type updates their software we have to manually open fonts.... reminds me of the late 90's :( Auto activation isn't perfect, but omg we are missing it now.
Oh, and apparently everyone but ME can open files in the camera raw program.... I don't even have it, unless I am actually opening a RAW file lol. Whatever that's what the nerds are for, i just look at pretty pictures :drunk3:
We just got 5 CC seats last week and so far so good. To get the Adobe Cloud to work on all our Mac's I had to also issue an email address to 4 operators who before were not allowed to have email ..the ownership was not to thrilled about that or the $200 a month cost!
I was also just starting to look into how to get Pitstop 11.2 on Acrobat 11, I currently have it running on Acrobat 10 and also have 9 loaded...have no problems with all three open.
Anyone using Acrobat 11 with Pitstop 11.2 and soon to be Pitsop 12 in several days?
why are your operators not allowed email? That's just, wrong lol.
edit. I just read your sig. that's a lot of presses... and your operators don't have email??? I am baffled lol
Quote from: RMPrepress on September 05, 2013, 06:51:36 PMWe just got 5 CC seats last week and so far so good. To get the Adobe Cloud to work on all our Mac's I had to also issue an email address to 4 operators who before were not allowed to have email ..the ownership was not to thrilled about that or the $200 a month cost!
I was also just starting to look into how to get Pitstop 11.2 on Acrobat 11, I currently have it running on Acrobat 10 and also have 9 loaded...have no problems with all three open.
Anyone using Acrobat 11 with Pitstop 11.2 and soon to be Pitsop 12 in several days?
I know Pitstop 12 works on Acrobat XI. For getting Pitstop 11.2 working on Acrobat XI you may need to manually copy the Pitstop plugin folder into the Acrobat XI application (Show Package Contents). No guarantee that will work though.
Haven't really given it a workout, but PSPro 11.2 seems fine with Acrobat XI. Just whiskered it in by the deadline from 10 to 11 before we would have had to pay for PSPro12, though. :relieved:
Believe it or not ownership would not allow our prepress department to have Internet access at all until about 10 months ago. Paranoia about virus's getting at our live jobs and such.
The change came when I finally convinced them we needed to move into the 21st Century and we rewired our entire building with Cat6 cable
and all new router/firewall, full gigabit switches, wireless AP's and upgraded from 2 T1 lines to 4 T1's for faster uploads and downloads (now getting 700 KB/sec downloads)
Oh how I miss downloading an upgrade on my laptop and moving it around on a usb drive to 5 workstations :shoots_self: ...it was ridiculous!!
Now our prepress is rockin' it is certainly faster having everything connected with a full gigabit network...jumbo frames running too on the Macs can copy a 2GB in about 45 seconds and the internet too!....but i digress... :offtopic:
Pitstop Pro 11 and 11.2 on Acrobat 10 has been flawless for us on 5 workstations for well over a year now ...I hate to rock the boat.
Will probably wait until PP12 comes out and make the move then or wait a few months and see what the reviews are, I hate to upgrade right away.
Need to have 11.2 to install on Acrobat XI
I just ran the installer and no issues up and running right away.
Did you previously have it installed on Acrobat 10?
Did it pickup all your settings and local folders (if you use any) that you had set up on Acrobat 10?
Quote from: RMPrepress on September 09, 2013, 04:23:03 PMDid you previously have it installed on Acrobat 10?
Did it pickup all your settings and local folders (if you use any) that you had set up on Acrobat 10?
Yes installed on X.
I only just got Pitstop about 3 months ago, I'm still floundering and do not have any of my own presets, so, I don't know if it will transfer those.
Can anyone that's current on indy CC backsave a file for me? My digital guy that normally does it is out to lunch and not known when he is coming back.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/40594243/EXXI_AR13_CVR_FNL_RV2.indd
Thanks.
Look at the file name. :lmao:
it only has the word "final" in it once, and only on rev 2?
obviously, not ready to print.
carry on.
I've been screwing with this file for 3 weeks. Everything is final.
I'm so close but I need a file I can open so I can finish it. Everything is a rush and I don't have the tools needed...
Quote from: Farabomb on September 11, 2013, 11:21:24 AMEverything is final.
Doubt it. Wait til you start plating the job, then get back to us. :hello:
Quote from: Farabomb on September 11, 2013, 11:21:24 AMI'm so close but I need a file I can open so I can finish it. Everything is a rush and I don't have the tools needed...
That pretty much sums up printing & prepress in general. :drunk3:
No worries about the backsave, my guy is back from lunch.
Quote from: Farabomb on September 11, 2013, 11:49:05 AMNo worries about the backsave, my guy is back from lunch.
I would have backsaved it for you but my 30 day trial expired. :sad:
It's ok, my boss said people will just switch to another suite of programs because $50 a month is too much.
I trust him, he knows computers and stuff. He even has a smartphone and email things. :shoots_self:
And a ruler to measure pages on screen?
Quote from: Farabomb on September 11, 2013, 11:02:00 AMMy digital guy that normally does it is out to lunch and not known when he is coming back.
Missing, presumed fed?
:grin:
Cheers, John the Fontaholic
Quote from: Fontaholic on September 11, 2013, 01:10:30 PMQuote from: Farabomb on September 11, 2013, 11:02:00 AMMy digital guy that normally does it is out to lunch and not known when he is coming back.
Missing, presumed fed?
:grin:
Cheers, John the Fontaholic
If it was a pressman he would come back more than just fed. :laugh:
Quite possible, he does have a bottle of makers, unopened on a shelf behind his desk.
Quote from: Farabomb on September 11, 2013, 11:49:05 AMNo worries about the backsave, my guy is back from lunch.
Sorry man, was absofuckinglutely
buried today, never even got onto the boards until I was home or I coulda maybe saved it back. :embarrassed:
All good, all good.
It was a fire drill anyway. Genius designer color corrected a photo and saved it as 72 dpi. "but it's a .PSD!" it's still shit dude.
Sometimes when I ask for native artwork I specify PSD as a possible option...it's always fun when you get a flattened one. Or one with 87 text layers, all using diff fonts, none supplied.
KILL THEM.
The redraw speed in Indy CS7 is making me want to kill people. I can type faster than it can draw, moving the page around with the hand tool makes me feel so 1994.
I've fiddled with the preferences to no avail. How 'bout you peeps?
Boss is having same problem too with her MacPro. We're thinking it may be our OS? (snowkitty)
need more video ram?
I'd check the system requirements for CC7. I know CS6 requires a min. of OSX 10.6.8 SL, but maybe Adobe up'd the ante for CC7?
Quote from: andyfest on September 12, 2013, 11:00:09 AMI'd check the system requirements for CC7. I know CS6 requires a min. of OSX 10.6.8 SL, but maybe Adobe up'd the ante for CC7?
Requirements are SL and above...which we have.
We're blaming the OS. Cause her machine has all the bells/power/RAM/great VC, etc.
I'm just on a mini. :cry:
The fact you are using SL means the hardware isn't that new. Which I would guess that is the issue. Even on the Mac Pro.
Very true :old:
I think I'm going back to using 5.5 and only use CC if I need to.
Just too frustrating.
Quote from: Sabrina The Turd Polisher on September 12, 2013, 12:16:19 PMVery true :old:
I think I'm going back to using 5.5 and only use CC if I need to.
Just too frustrating.
Or join the never ending fun...
Upgrade software...
Upgrade hardware so software will run...
Upgrade software again...
Upgrade hardware again so new software will run...
Lather, rinse, repeat for the rest of your life.
It is currently my biggest wish that CC is a massive failure for Abode.
Quote from: gnubler on September 12, 2013, 12:20:40 PMIt is currently my biggest wish that CC is a massive failure for Abode.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Sabrina The Turd Polisher on September 12, 2013, 10:55:00 AMThe redraw speed in Indy CS7 is making me want to kill people. I can type faster than it can draw, moving the page around with the hand tool makes me feel so 1994.
I've fiddled with the preferences to no avail. How 'bout you peeps?
Boss is having same problem too with her MacPro. We're thinking it may be our OS? (snowkitty)
I'm finding that if I leave the apps open they get progressively slower throughout the day. I never noticed that issue before. I thought this was supposed to be all 64 bit and fast as snot. It's not.
lol
I've noticed for years that Illustrator in particular ends up *not responding* every time a Mac goes to sleep, and seems to crash more than any other Abode app.
Adobe apps do not crash. That is called a forced refresh.
Quote from: Joe on September 12, 2013, 11:28:55 AMThe fact you are using SL means the hardware isn't that new. Which I would guess that is the issue. Even on the Mac Pro.
I didn't think you even
install CC on a machine running 10.6 - hence why one of our ancient MacPros now has a
third HD installed with 10.7 - just to run CC files when they appear.
Quote from: Slappy on September 12, 2013, 01:10:15 PMQuote from: Joe on September 12, 2013, 11:28:55 AMThe fact you are using SL means the hardware isn't that new. Which I would guess that is the issue. Even on the Mac Pro.
I didn't think you even install CC on a machine running 10.6 - hence why one of our ancient MacPros now has a third HD installed with 10.7 - just to run CC files when they appear.
10.6.8 and above - that be the specs that were given to us.
Makes me wonder if their specs have changed over time?
Fuck them.
You can still use CS for production, it will do everything you need it to do.
Except open a CC document. :azn:
We don't really accept native INDDs anyway. Always fucking problems. It's down to PDFs now, and for creating stuff in-house CS will do everything you need it to do.
The system requirements for Illy, ID, and Acrobat are 10.6.8. Photoshop shows system requirements as 10.7 or 10.8.
The boss doesn't want to deny any file format. Also doesn't want to pay for CC. :homer:
Quote from: gnubler on September 12, 2013, 01:33:30 PMWe don't really accept native INDDs anyway. Always fucking problems. It's down to PDFs now, and for creating stuff in-house CS will do everything you need it to do.
72 max dpi jpgs only. MAX! :kiss:
Quote from: Joe on September 12, 2013, 02:28:30 PMThe system requirements for Illy, ID, and Acrobat are 10.6.8. Photoshop shows system requirements as 10.7 or 10.8.
Where is that info?
I've got PS17 (CC) open right now.
Quote from: Farabomb on September 12, 2013, 02:31:13 PMThe boss doesn't want to deny any file format. Also doesn't want to pay for CC. :homer:
Sounds like my Boss is on your Boss's wavelength... :death:
Cheers, John the Fontaholic
Quote from: Sabrina The Turd Polisher on September 12, 2013, 02:40:51 PMQuote from: Joe on September 12, 2013, 02:28:30 PMThe system requirements for Illy, ID, and Acrobat are 10.6.8. Photoshop shows system requirements as 10.7 or 10.8.
Where is that info?
I've got PS17 (CC) open right now.
http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/tech-specs.html (http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/tech-specs.html)
Click the link for each app.
I'm not saying it won't run on 10.6.8. It just that the recommended system requirements for Photoshop is 10.7 or 10.8.
Quote from: Fontaholic on September 12, 2013, 02:48:37 PMQuote from: Farabomb on September 12, 2013, 02:31:13 PMThe boss doesn't want to deny any file format. Also doesn't want to pay for CC. :homer:
Sounds like my Boss is on your Boss's wavelength... :death:
Cheers, John the Fontaholic
I would like to have a Lexus as my work car too. But I don't want to pay for it either.
Even Pooplisher? As lame as my shop is, none of our PCs have Publisher and we don't accept it.
we accept it, gladly. It's awesome.
also, Pages®
We dealt with Pages® a few weeks ago. It, too, is awesome.
He won't turn anything away. Then I get to explain the issues. If I'm lucky he goes back to the custy and I get a PDF full of issues.
Then he wonders why I'm working on the same job all day.
At the last place I told the owner to automatically add a $15 prepress fee for any .pub that comes in.
Quote from: gnubler on September 13, 2013, 10:20:33 AMAt the last place I told the owner to automatically add a $1500.00 prepress fee for any .pub that comes in.
Fixed.
Quote from: gnubler on September 13, 2013, 10:20:33 AM$00.00
What prepress actually gets billed most of the time.
Quote from: gnubler on September 13, 2013, 10:30:55 AMQuote from: gnubler on September 13, 2013, 10:20:33 AM$00.00
What prepress actually gets billed most of the time.
That is because customers send in "camera ready" files.
just start taking pictures with your smart phone of the camera ready art...
what? it has a camera? right?
Quote from: david on September 13, 2013, 10:58:59 AMjust start taking pictures with your smart phone of the camera ready art...
what? it has a camera? right?
I actually get those every month or so :hello:
Quote from: gnubler on September 13, 2013, 10:30:55 AMQuote from: gnubler on September 13, 2013, 10:20:33 AM$00.00
What prepress actually gets billed most of the time.
Ain't that the mother-lovin' truth...!! :angry:
Cheers, John the Fontaholic
Holy Shit!
A real live person "from Adobe" called to ask about our CC experience. :huh:
I'm letting my boss handle that one!
an actual person from this planet?
weird....
More important is...did they speak English and could you understand it?
Apparently they only hope for good responses. There's a long thread in the Adobe forums which mentions a survey sent to some customers. If they clicked the box that said they weren't planning to go for the Cloud, the survey was ended.
{sigh}
I know this has been covered ad nausea, but why do the biggest fuck-ups always have the "latest and greatest" shit? I swear they do it wrong on purpose in their new shit that we don't have just to make our lives miserable/more complex. If we were all Hindu, we all must have really been bad people in our former lives.
I think I clubbed baby seals in a previous life to be given this much crap now.
dunno
If they don't get charged and "the last printer didn't have any problems" why do anything different?
For reasons I won't go into I can't access our ONLY copy of InDesign CC. Can a kind soul please save this down to an IDML for me?? :banghead:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/430620/Oomph_Holiday_Card.indd.zip
Ahhhh, not a big deal. I thought the PDF they gave us was crapped out from something in CC but it turns out they used a font with License Restrictions so it wasn't going to output no matter what. Outlined that whore In Illy - NEXT.
Today I saw ID CC launch for the first time...no one else has commented on the splash screen? Or did I miss it?
Splash is appropriate, it looks like the result of someone blowing their brains out at their desk and blood splattering onto the display.
Quote from: gnubler on December 13, 2013, 03:39:35 PMToday I saw ID CC launch for the first time...no one else has commented on the splash screen? Or did I miss it?
Splash is appropriate, it looks like the result of someone blowing their brains out at their desk and blood splattering onto the display.
Yes it does, in 8 bit resolution also.
Good, it matches the resolution of most of the images I get.
That splash screen sounds like the reaction of the people on the Adobe CC problem forums.
Quote from: gnubler on December 13, 2013, 03:39:35 PMToday I saw ID CC launch for the first time...no one else has commented on the splash screen? Or did I miss it?
Splash is appropriate, it looks like the result of someone blowing their brains out at their desk and blood splattering onto the display.
You've got a point about that splash screen. I will never look at the same. :shoots_self:
I try to use is as little as possible since it's a software boat anchor for this little old mac.
Hard to believe, but got my first CC file today. Just so happens to be a 622 page book file, in 14 chapters, with corrections.... that I have no way of making corrections to. Nice. This customer is also one of THE WORST users of Adobe products ever; they do EVERYTHING in Word, and then drag-and-drop to ID (not cut-and-paste). I never get links and font colors are almost always in Word 0R-0G-0B. I got a pdf... looks like a long day in Pitstop for me.
Good luck man.
I feel some rage posts coming on.
I have spent the last hour converting wildly inconsistent screens to 20% K
That's a really ugly file you got there digi - good gosh!
found a linked text box issue where if I had an idml I could fix... but it affects like 70+ pages
time to let the expletives fly
Not to worry. They will send a few more FINAL PDF's that you will have to do all of those color corrections to again for each one.
I'm really not missing prepress. At all.
Quote from: gnubler on March 11, 2014, 07:31:48 PMI'm really not missing prepress. At all.
I'm looking forward to being able to say that....one day soon.
Quote from: Sabrina The Turd Polisher on March 12, 2014, 06:26:18 AMQuote from: gnubler on March 11, 2014, 07:31:48 PMI'm really not missing prepress. At all.
I'm looking forward to being able to say that....one day soon.
I don't miss most of it, especially the blood sausages and poor managers, but I value all I learned, I'll never lose my base of knowledge and craft, and in the 2 years since retiring, I've been discovered by a couple of interesting free-lance clients, who get it that I get it. Cloud, not so much. This article is fluff, but the reader comments are worth scrolling down:
http://www.economist.com/news/business/21599370-adobes-bold-embrace-computing-cloud-should-inspire-others-super-subs (http://www.economist.com/news/business/21599370-adobes-bold-embrace-computing-cloud-should-inspire-others-super-subs)
It's always the people who know the least who upgrade immediately.
Then you ask them to save it down or export it to an idml and they don't know what the fuck you're talking about, so you say, okay I'll take the pdf in which case they save it low res with no bleeds, and fonts and no images embedded with an RGB icc profile embedded.
The package option is also lost to them as well.
Quote from: Farabomb on March 24, 2014, 01:18:48 PMThe package option is also lost to them as well.
Yes, this refusal to use the package option has always been a mystery to me. I mean, it's not brain surgery is it? Nor rocket science. :drunk3:
Not even rocket surgery mate.
We have 2 CC licenses; there are 3 at head office. All on the same account. Haven't been very diligent with updates, but got an Indy file from head office which we couldn't open. Fair enough; update. We go to 8.x.x (at home, didn't memorise it). Phoned one of the dezingers at HO, who had a look and they are 9.x.x.
Anyone know why this may be, after an update our end. Their updates were not in recent days. Shall try to follow up tomorrow, but someone here may have some clues.
I'm at 9.2.1 on Indy. I update whenever they are available.
Quote from: Joe on April 03, 2014, 02:58:04 AMI'm at 9.2.1 on Indy. I update whenever they are available.
And we should too, shall endeavour to do so now, and mend our slack ways. Having said that, maybe we need to do 'stepped' upgrades. :undecided:
Actually, looking at my Indy CS6 version it is at 8.0.2.413 while my Indy CC is at 9.2.1.101. Are you sure you are looking at your Indy CC when it shows it is version 8.x.x?
We are using Indesign CS6 and the version is 8.0.2
Quote from: frailer on April 03, 2014, 02:54:05 AMWe have 2 CC licenses; there are 3 at head office. All on the same account. Haven't been very diligent with updates, but got an Indy file from head office which we couldn't open. Fair enough; update. We go to 8.x.x (at home, didn't memorise it). Phoned one of the dezingers at HO, who had a look and they are 9.x.x.
Anyone know why this may be, after an update our end. Their updates were not in recent days. Shall try to follow up tomorrow, but someone here may have some clues.
Are you using the same version OS? Mavericks may be 9.yada.yada and snow-lion-cat may be 8.yada.yada
so do you pay per product, or by package?
i.e. is it $50/mo for InDesign, then another $50/mo for Illy, and then another $50 for PS, or is it just $50/mo for the whole package along with DW, FW, etc.?
Quote from: Grimace on April 03, 2014, 10:13:57 AMQuote from: frailer on April 03, 2014, 02:54:05 AMWe have 2 CC licenses; there are 3 at head office. All on the same account. Haven't been very diligent with updates, but got an Indy file from head office which we couldn't open. Fair enough; update. We go to 8.x.x (at home, didn't memorise it). Phoned one of the dezingers at HO, who had a look and they are 9.x.x.
Anyone know why this may be, after an update our end. Their updates were not in recent days. Shall try to follow up tomorrow, but someone here may have some clues.
Are you using the same version OS? Mavericks may be 9.yada.yada and snow-lion-cat may be 8.yada.yada
Good point, prolly not. We're still on 10.6.8, and HO have had a couple of their 27" iMacs do a Fukujima on 'em., so they're likely later OSX. So, we are now possibly in IDML territory with our own team. Bugger.
Upgrade looms anyway, as we shall have to retire our XMF server box, as XMF's going 64-bit,. Black Magic same deal... upgrade. On the upgrade treadmill again.
Quote from: DigiCorn on April 03, 2014, 11:33:21 AMso do you pay per product, or by package?
i.e. is it $50/mo for InDesign, then another $50/mo for Illy, and then another $50 for PS, or is it just $50/mo for the whole package along with DW, FW, etc.?
Single apps are $19.99 per month. The whole shebang of Adobe apps are $49.99 per month.
For now.
Quote from: frailer on April 03, 2014, 11:34:56 AMQuote from: Grimace on April 03, 2014, 10:13:57 AMQuote from: frailer on April 03, 2014, 02:54:05 AMWe have 2 CC licenses; there are 3 at head office. All on the same account. Haven't been very diligent with updates, but got an Indy file from head office which we couldn't open. Fair enough; update. We go to 8.x.x (at home, didn't memorise it). Phoned one of the dezingers at HO, who had a look and they are 9.x.x.
Anyone know why this may be, after an update our end. Their updates were not in recent days. Shall try to follow up tomorrow, but someone here may have some clues.
Are you using the same version OS? Mavericks may be 9.yada.yada and snow-lion-cat may be 8.yada.yada
Good point, prolly not. We're still on 10.6.8, and HO have had a couple of their 27" iMacs do a Fukujima on 'em., so they're likely later OSX. So, we are now possibly in IDML territory with our own team. Bugger.
Upgrade looms anyway, as we shall have to retire our XMF server box, as XMF's going 64-bit,. Black Magic same deal... upgrade. On the upgrade treadmill again.
The OS version won't make InDesign versions different. When CC was released the only available version of Indy was the CS6 version so if you bought early you got that. With CC you always have the option to use either the latest version or the next to latest version. When a new version comes out it will show as an available application to you but it won't install automatically. You still have to install it through the Adobe Application Manager. So the two current versions right now are Indy 8.x and 9.x. And 8.x will not open 9.x files When the next version of Indy is released version 8.x will drop out of CC and your current versions will be 9.x 10.x but 10.x won't install automatically. You will have to install it via the Application Manager.
Yeah, Application Manager. :rolleyes: Thanks for the reminder.
Got back onto this. Got Head Office dezinger to send me a token Indy doc, which I can't open, despite Adobe telling me I'm 'Good' for upgrades Updates. ------> :homer:
Screenshots.
What simple thing am I missing?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Need to DL Indy, correct? Am doing so now... :rolleyes:
With InDesign open, under the "InDesign" menu, "About InDesign"...what version does it report? If you have InDesign CC it will look like the attached. It sounds like you are viewing the Application Manager for CS6. You can have a Creative Cloud subscription and only be running CS6. CS6 will not report updates to the next major version. Only incremental updates for CS6. You only get the CC apps if you go to the CC application manger which looks like the second screen shot here.
Quote from: frailer on April 16, 2014, 09:35:13 PMNeed to DL Indy, correct? Am doing so now... :rolleyes:
I would go ahead and download Photoshop CC and Illustrator CC while you are at it. You can also get Acrobat XI if you don't have it....but it sucks ass.
Yeah, I couldn't get back in to de-brief on this as my post attempts were bouncing back off the Utah salt flats...
When the penny dropped and I went back in, all sub-species of apps were there. I DL'd Indy CC. Yep, shall get PhSh and Illy next week too.
.... what do you hear when the big server in Utah is malfunctioning? MoreMoans.
Quote from: frailer on April 17, 2014, 03:14:37 AM.... what do you hear when the big server in Utah is malfunctioning? MoreMoans.
Silence. :laugh:
he's here all week folks, try the veal!
Got both CC and CS6 running. Got a job file from a client that will not open. Says it is created using InDesign 10. What gives? I think I am current on all my updates. Do I have to spring for a new license?
Version 10 is InDesign CC 2014 which is the latest. Since you already have CC you can just download and install InDesign CC 2014 (and Photoshop CC 2014 and Illustrator CC 2014 as well if you please). It is a free version included with CC but it will install it separately from CS6 and CC.
Quote from: Joe on July 07, 2014, 10:42:42 AMVersion 10 is InDesign CC 2014 which is the latest. Since you already have CC you can just download and install InDesign CC 2014 (and Photoshop CC 2014 and Illustrator CC 2014 as well if you please). It is a free version included with CC but it will install it separately from CS6 and CC.
Whew, that happened to me today as well and I almost had a cow. :drunk3:
But really, don't you think when you checked for updates they would let you know that there is a new version available aside from the CC 9 or whatever update?? Very Quarkish behaviour :drunk3:
Quote from: pspdfppdfx on July 07, 2014, 12:19:27 PMBut really, don't you think when you checked for updates they would let you know that there is a new version available aside from the CC 9 or whatever update?? Very Quarkish behaviour :drunk3:
That would be nice because when I saw there was an update I thought I was just doing a CC update and not getting a whole new install of all the CS 2014 apps. It took me a while to figure out why the updates were taking about 3 hours to download and install.
Quote from: Joe on July 07, 2014, 10:42:42 AMVersion 10 is InDesign CC 2014 which is the latest. Since you already have CC you can just download and install InDesign CC 2014 (and Photoshop CC 2014 and Illustrator CC 2014 as well if you please). It is a free version included with CC but it will install it separately from CS6 and CC.
Yay my life
QuoteYou are running an operating system that InDesign no longer supports. Refer to the system requirements for a full list of supported platforms.
Yes siree Bob...No more Snow Leopard.
Bastards.
On the bright side, it looks like I may be getting a new (used) computer!
And the worm turns...
10.6.8 here at work. The clock ticks. It's sounding like a time-bomb. :sad:
anyone know if esko deskpack stuff works in the "new" improved 2014 illy yet?
Quote from: frailer on July 07, 2014, 10:46:33 PM10.6.8 here at work. The clock ticks. It's sounding like a time-bomb. :sad:
Yes, I tried to update to Mavericks today and there are a couple of crucial apps that won't run on it.. like our Navigator (rip) client. I've contacted Xitron via email to see if there has been an update to this software.
If not, then we can't install CC2014 because, yes, it won't run on 10.6.8
Thanks for the response. I spent most of yesterday downloading and retrying ( our internet sucks). I left it to download overnight. The InDesign downloaded but now the "About" info still reads 9.2. So do I need to install or is it a auto load?
My co-workers are in for a huge shake up too. They are running Snow Lepoard but not for long. My future looks crowded with upgrades and installs. Prinergy, Maverick InDesign Quark 10 time to ask for a raise.
10.6.8 here as well. Any upgrade in OS, and we will lose barcode software, Office apps and ability to track archives. What OS are they recommending for Abode's latest ripoff?
CC (Original) will work on 10.6.8.
CC (2014) states that it needs 10.7 (at least for indesign)
CC (2020) presumably states that you just pay the subscription and just not install it... as they have stopped supporting desktop platforms. This release will only work with the VR technologies licensed within the Adobe Authorized Corneal Implant Program (If you lapse your subscription, they simply turn off your eyes...)
https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/system-requirements.html#System requirements
Quote from: mwc on July 08, 2014, 07:54:41 AMCC (Original) will work on 10.6.8.
CC (2014) states that it needs 10.7 (at least for indesign)
CC (2020) presumably states that you just pay the subscription and just not install it... as they have stopped supporting desktop platforms. This release will only work with the VR technologies licensed within the Adobe Authorized Corneal Implant Program (If you lapse your subscription, they simply turn off your eyes...)
https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/system-requirements.html#System requirements
Sounds fair to me. :blind:
Quote from: Joe on July 08, 2014, 09:56:06 AMQuote from: mwc on July 08, 2014, 07:54:41 AMCC (Original) will work on 10.6.8.
CC (2014) states that it needs 10.7 (at least for indesign)
CC (2020) presumably states that you just pay the subscription and just not install it... as they have stopped supporting desktop platforms. This release will only work with the VR technologies licensed within the Adobe Authorized Corneal Implant Program (If you lapse your subscription, they simply turn off your eyes...)
https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/system-requirements.html#System requirements
Sounds fair to me. :blind:
2020 I'm not worried about. Most of us 55+ will be taking a dirtnap by then as a result of stress and alcohol. :old:
On the upside, you all the cool new splash screens!! :death:
Photoshop also has:
I hear single malt is the way to go. I've never tried it; only blends. The only kind I can really drink is Canadian (Crown Royal).
Quote from: DigiCorn on July 08, 2014, 11:42:48 AMI hear single malt is the way to go. I've never tried it; only blends. The only kind I can really drink is Canadian (Crown Royal).
That's Rob Ford's favorite too! :drunk3:
mmmm.... single malt... Make mine a double!!
:drunk3: Ahhhh'm drinkin doubles, and she's acting single..... :drunk3:
Quote from: pspdfppdfx on July 08, 2014, 12:41:46 PMQuote from: DigiCorn on July 08, 2014, 11:42:48 AMI hear single malt is the way to go. I've never tried it; only blends. The only kind I can really drink is Canadian (Crown Royal).
That's Rob Ford's favorite too! :drunk3:
No, his favorite comes in a glass pipe, not a glass bottle.
Quote from: DigiCorn on July 08, 2014, 11:42:48 AMI hear single malt is the way to go. I've never tried it; only blends. The only kind I can really drink is Canadian (Crown Royal).
Funny, that whiskey thing. Like it.. or not.. But rum? I can go on about that. And we do the good stuff here in Bundaberg. Sadly, tpat can't get it, though not for want of investigating my end, to get some over there to him. :sad:
I like this hip flask (http://davesbikeblog.squarespace.com/) Not Off Topic, as something like this will be de rigeur for using Abode CC soon. :whip:
Got my first CC 2014 (10) file yesterday.
fuckers.
The guy that runs our digital here has CC so in the rare event I need something backsaved he can do it for me.
There's a difference between CC (9) and CC 2014 (10) you know.
One is 9 and one is 10.
ding ding ding
Give that man a rubber tortilla!
Just 'cuz you have CC doesn't mean you're on the latest and "greatest" :sarcasm:
The designers HAVE to have the latest and greatest!
Even though they have no idea how to use the programs.
Quote from: Farabomb on July 09, 2014, 11:11:08 AMEven though they have no idea how to use the programs.
that has never been a prerequisite to be a dezinger. It's all about colors and shapes, and more colors.
Fucking "life changing" designs. Give me a break.
Hey, if it looks good on the screen, that's all that matters.
That and the Prepress guy making that crap printable. Imposition is not really laying out jobs on a press sheet, it's what desingers do to us, to look "professional".
Quote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on July 09, 2014, 11:42:46 AMFucking "life changing" designs. Give me a break.
I've had some designs that made me want to change my life. :hangme:
Quote from: Farabomb on July 09, 2014, 12:36:05 PMQuote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on July 09, 2014, 11:42:46 AMFucking "life changing" designs. Give me a break.
I've had some designs that made me want to change my life. :hangme:
Don't tell them that.
Never.
I haven't got my new Mac yet (still running 10.6.8) so I am stuck on CC 9, but the 10 files are starting to show up. On a whim (and based on a conversation I had with Adobe) I downloaded and installed CC 2014 (10) on my Windows box. Despite the fact that Adobe legally allows your license to be installed concurrently on two machines, they claim they won't both run simultaneously. They lie. I am here today to tell you that I am successfully able to run CC 9 on my Mac and CC 10 on Windows with the same CC license at the same time. Maybe I'm not supposed to, but I am.
Yes that is correct. They can both run simultaneously but not legally. Been saying that for years.
The Adobe police haven't caught on yet?
Quote from: Possum on July 16, 2014, 12:53:50 PMThe Adobe police haven't caught on yet?
Yesterday an old friend mentioned that his daughter wants a copy of Photoshop for her 2-year-old Mac laptop. He was utterly perplexed by the Adobe web page. He doesn't want a pirated copy, just an older Mac pre-cloud license that he can get transfered to himself.
He's a college professor, so he has that trump card to play. I told him to call his school's software center immediately and see what they can do for him. I also pointed him towards some ebay auctions from what were probably honest and knowledgeable sellers of disks for CS5 and CS6 and suggested he let me look over any deal he's tempted to go for.
Anyone have other suggestions?
Whoa, it's Hotmetal... how's it going, brother?
Quote from: hotmetal on July 16, 2014, 01:06:49 PMQuote from: Possum on July 16, 2014, 12:53:50 PMThe Adobe police haven't caught on yet?
Yesterday an old friend mentioned that his daughter wants a copy of Photoshop for her 2-year-old Mac laptop. He was utterly perplexed by the Adobe web page. He doesn't want a pirated copy, just an older Mac pre-cloud license that he can get transfered to himself.
He's a college professor, so he has that trump card to play. I told him to call his school's software center immediately and see what they can do for him. I also pointed him towards some ebay auctions from what were probably honest and knowledgeable sellers of disks for CS5 and CS6 and suggested he let me look over any deal he's tempted to go for.
Anyone have other suggestions?
GIMP (http://www.gimp.org)
Can't beat the price. FREE!
Quote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on July 16, 2014, 01:12:50 PMWhoa, it's Hotmetal... how's it going, brother?
Life is good in my neck of the woods. The wife is still working, but only for another 13 months or so, and I certainly don't miss working in a prepress madhouse. In two bands at the moment. Just fun jams. There's no money in bar gigs but once in a while one or the other of them does something fun, like the VFW picnic and fundraiser I'm playing up in the boondocks in August. Free beer and food, appreciative audience.
And then there's my lucky find of a rare, interesting, and easy to please, freelance client, a kids book publisher. They originally hired me because I know how to use Quark, and a lot of their back files that need updates are in it. Lately they've been giving me a lot more stuff. Apparently their printer really likes the files I send.
I haven't come across yourself lately on my occasional visits. How's the life of the world's hardest working digital crap shoveler going these days?
Quote from: hotmetal on July 16, 2014, 02:14:03 PMQuote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on July 16, 2014, 01:12:50 PMWhoa, it's Hotmetal... how's it going, brother?
Life is good in my neck of the woods. The wife is still working, but only for another 13 months or so, and I certainly don't miss working in a prepress madhouse. In two bands at the moment. Just fun jams. There's no money in bar gigs but once in a while one or the other of them does something fun, like the VFW picnic and fundraiser I'm playing up in the boondocks in August. Free beer and food, appreciative audience.
And then there's my lucky find of a rare, interesting, and easy to please, freelance client, a kids book publisher. They originally hired me because I know how to use Quark, and a lot of their back files that need updates are in it. Lately they've been giving me a lot more stuff. Apparently their printer really likes the files I send.
I haven't come across yourself lately on my occasional visits. How's the life of the world's hardest working digital crap shoveler going these days?
Back to the grind. I have been AWOL the last year of so due to a certain tornadic act of the powers that be, took me a little while to get my head back on straight. Feeling 110% and back at it. Life that is.
You sound really well, and sounds like you got a really kick-ass set-up. If we could all end up so lucky, my friend. Glad to hear you are enjoying yourself, keep it up. It gives us all hope and there is a light at the end of the Prepress tunnel.
Quote from: Possum on July 16, 2014, 12:53:50 PMThe Adobe police haven't caught on yet?
Too busy counting the incoming cash.
Going to the Cloud-ugh :tantrum2:
any tips on installing and also updating?
drink heavily before downloading... or drink while you wait on it to download.
You are about to embark on a magical trip...
it's all unicorns and rainbows
Quote from: Tracy on August 06, 2014, 02:27:56 PMGoing to the Cloud-ugh :tantrum2:
any tips on installing and also updating?
verify you got the right OS and lots of Ram, click the link, wait for it to either work or not.
Post back when it doesn't work.
Then post to Adobe's forums when it keeps on not working.
Hopefully you have good download speed. Ours here is 5 mbps and it took three days to download, install and get running. I had to do it twice (once on Mac and once in Windows).
Quote from: Tracy on August 06, 2014, 02:27:56 PMGoing to the Cloud-ugh :tantrum2:
any tips on installing and also updating?
Prepare to be frustrated.
Have one of those chocolate beers.
Pray.
:laugh:
Thanks guys, I guess I knew it wasn't a happy thing
maybe I will do it friday at the end o day
yeah, let it download over the weekend for sure.
Lucky me! Photoshop CC2014 crashes at launch every time starting today. Deleting prefs or rebooting did not help. I suppose I will have to re-install the whole damn CC2014 to get it working again. You suck Adobe!
Quote from: Joe on August 06, 2014, 06:04:40 PMLucky me! Photoshop CC2014 crashes at launch every time starting today. Deleting prefs or rebooting did not help. I suppose I will have to re-install the whole damn CC2014 to get it working again. You suck Adobe!
Wow, sorry you folks are having so much... fun... coming to grips with what appears to be the resurgence of Caltiki the Immortal Monster. Could this be the harbinger of the fast approaching singularity, where all our troubles shall be cast aside and everything will... just work... perfectly... forever... in
the Cloud?
I'm depending on you super heros of the digital graphic arts milieu to keep me briefed on
the Adobe Situation.
Keep watching the skies. :uptonogood:
Yeah...we are fighting the good fight. Just like General Custer. With about the same result it feels like on some days.
Quote from: Joe on August 06, 2014, 09:48:44 PMYeah...we are fighting the good fight. Just like General Custer. With about the same result it feels like on some days.
Looks pretty grim to me. Also doesn't look like they'll get a clue anytime soon.
It almost sounds like you need 2 Macs now in order to run CC. One to not update and have working and another to test out the "updates".
Thanks Adobe!
Quote from: Farabomb on August 07, 2014, 08:11:22 AMIt almost sounds like you need 2 Macs now in order to run CC. One to not update and have working and another to test out the "updates".
Thanks Adobe!
We are probably going to have to do this later to run newer files; last Mac CC 2014 job I got, I ended up having to install CC 2014 on Windows, and then save it down to CC 2013 to work the file on Mac. It's either that or buy a new Mac workstation, and then buy a new RIP because in all likelihood, Rampage won't run on Yosemite. And then we'll probably have to upgrade Preps too, if our new RIP doesn't impose. It never ends.
I can't seem to save this file down to cs6 (we have cc on a pc on one of the "families" computers)
can someone save this to cs6 for me?
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62122709/Lichens.indd
Here you go...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qyiecrzg1qc32no/Lichens.idml (https://www.dropbox.com/s/qyiecrzg1qc32no/Lichens.idml)
Thank you!!!
Welcome.
Quote from: Joe on August 06, 2014, 06:04:40 PMLucky me! Photoshop CC2014 crashes at launch every time starting today. Deleting prefs or rebooting did not help. I suppose I will have to re-install the whole damn CC2014 to get it working again. You suck Adobe!
I had a similar issue when we first went to the Adobe CC with Illustrator. It turned out to be a font issue... Verdana I believe or Tahoma that needed to be on your system or in Font Fusion if you use that. After I made it permanent in Font Fusion my Adobe CC stopped crashing on launch up.
Welcome to the forum richertim...and thanks for the reply.
I found last night it is being caused on my machine by the latest update of Photoshop CC 2014.1.0. I uninstalled Photoshop and re-installed it and it worked fine until I did that update again. My co-worker updated and his is fine. I booted into Yosemite and the update works fine there. So I booted back into Mavericks and created a new user account and it works fine there. Back in my user account if I delete the folder in my Preferences named "Adobe Photoshop CC 2014 Settings" and launch the updated Photshop it works fine but after closing Photoshop and restarting it...it crashes again.
Since it is confined to this one user account it might be a font. I will mess with that tonight. Thanks for the idea.
to save me figuring it out myself because I am lazy, is the new CC a rent per month thing? We are still back in version 5.5, only because we dont do design, we just take "Print Ready" :huh: PDFs.
Yes it is. Regular pricing is $50 per month per user or if you upgrade it is $30 per month per user for the first year and then goes up to $50 per month per user after that.
does the same apply for acrobat pro?
No you can still buy it separately (boxed with a DVD too I think) but it is included if you buy rent the whole CC package.
I think I'm going to download the CC before I go home today
so Am I right in thinking I'm ok with CC on Lion 10.7.5?
Yes. For now. No promises on future updates though.
Thanks Joe
I don't think I can upgrade to Maverick with XMF
I may need another computer in the future, Like I need more computers
sheesh
can you have 2 users with 1 license, might be a dumb question :laugh:
just thinking if their not used at the same time
I'm not sure you're ok with CC on anything.
Yes, you can run 2 computers with one license. One is SUPPOSED to be for work and at home, but you can get away with it. It's for people that take their work home with them; not really for skipping on buying 2 individual copies.
Quote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on August 15, 2014, 01:27:54 PMYes, you can run 2 computers with one license. One is SUPPOSED to be for work and at home, but you can get away with it. It's for people that take their work home with them; not really for skipping on buying 2 individual copies.
Ditto.
Quote4.1 Subscription-Based Software License.
If we provide the Software to you as part of your subscription to use the Services, then subject to your compliance with these terms, we grant you a non-exclusive license to install and use the Software: (a) in the Territory, (b) so long as your subscription is valid, and (c) consistent with these terms and related documentation accompanying the Software. "Territory" means worldwide, but excludes any U.S. embargoed countries and countries where you are prohibited from using the Software or the Services. You may activate the Software on up to 2 devices (or virtual machines) at a time, if these activations are associated with the same Adobe ID for the same individual, unless stated at http://www.adobe.com/go/activation. (http://www.adobe.com/go/activation.) However, you may not use the Software on these devices simultaneously.
Thanks Guys! so I should download and put in my current info when asked for the license?
Yes. How long are you going to be there because it can take a long time to download depending on your ISP speed or Adobe server usage or anything in between? And you have to download each application separately. It downloads and installs without you having to run the installer....unless you have a team account and then everything works differently. :laugh:
Quote from: Joe on August 15, 2014, 01:39:30 PMQuote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on August 15, 2014, 01:27:54 PMYes, you can run 2 computers with one license. One is SUPPOSED to be for work and at home, but you can get away with it. It's for people that take their work home with them; not really for skipping on buying 2 individual copies.
Ditto.
Quote4.1 Subscription-Based Software License.
If we provide the Software to you as part of your subscription to use the Services, then subject to your compliance with these terms, we grant you a non-exclusive license to install and use the Software: (a) in the Territory, (b) so long as your subscription is valid, and (c) consistent with these terms and related documentation accompanying the Software. "Territory" means worldwide, but excludes any U.S. embargoed countries and countries where you are prohibited from using the Software or the Services. You may activate the Software on up to 2 devices (or virtual machines) at a time, if these activations are associated with the same Adobe ID for the same individual, unless stated at http://www.adobe.com/go/activation. (http://www.adobe.com/go/activation.) However, you may not use the Software on these devices simultaneously.
So you actually can't run two computers with one license in the same office because you can't run them simultaneously? Adobe is just so user friendly. I love them.
Quote from: Designia on August 15, 2014, 02:02:55 PMQuote from: Joe on August 15, 2014, 01:39:30 PMQuote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on August 15, 2014, 01:27:54 PMYes, you can run 2 computers with one license. One is SUPPOSED to be for work and at home, but you can get away with it. It's for people that take their work home with them; not really for skipping on buying 2 individual copies.
Ditto.
Quote4.1 Subscription-Based Software License.
If we provide the Software to you as part of your subscription to use the Services, then subject to your compliance with these terms, we grant you a non-exclusive license to install and use the Software: (a) in the Territory, (b) so long as your subscription is valid, and (c) consistent with these terms and related documentation accompanying the Software. "Territory" means worldwide, but excludes any U.S. embargoed countries and countries where you are prohibited from using the Software or the Services. You may activate the Software on up to 2 devices (or virtual machines) at a time, if these activations are associated with the same Adobe ID for the same individual, unless stated at http://www.adobe.com/go/activation. (http://www.adobe.com/go/activation.) However, you may not use the Software on these devices simultaneously.
So you actually can't run two computers with one license in the same office because you can't run them simultaneously? Adobe is just so user friendly. I love them.
You can technologically but not legally.
It's not like the old Quark where it will stop you from running both on the local network. They will both activate and run. The Adobe SWAT team may eventually show up at your door though. :toaster:
Quote from: Designia on August 15, 2014, 02:02:55 PMSo you actually can't run two computers with one license in the same office because you can't run them simultaneously? Adobe is just so user friendly. I love them.
You can, but you have to use the "2 computers 1 cup" plugin. Try it, the pop-ups are epic.
Umm, that makes perfect sense in an office environment. Every user needs a license.
Adobe is being nice by letting you install on 2 separate computers, one being at work and one being at home.
You new to the whole computer software thing?
Quote from: Joe on August 15, 2014, 02:06:12 PMYou can technologically but not legally.
It's not like the old Quark where it will stop you from running both on the local network. They will both activate and run. The Adobe SWAT team may eventually show up at your door though. :toaster:
Pic of Adobe SWAT team.
(http://292fc373eb1b8428f75b-7f75e5eb51943043279413a54aaa858a.r38.cf3.rackcdn.com/5c1e6f6bdbcbe9dadace75604c16eefc2965142165-1313063046-4e43c086-620x348.jpg)
Quote from: Ear on August 15, 2014, 02:08:48 PMQuote from: Joe on August 15, 2014, 02:06:12 PMYou can technologically but not legally.
It's not like the old Quark where it will stop you from running both on the local network. They will both activate and run. The Adobe SWAT team may eventually show up at your door though. :toaster:
Pic of Adobe SWAT team.
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...and this is their leader:
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Quote from: Ear on August 15, 2014, 02:08:48 PMQuote from: Joe on August 15, 2014, 02:06:12 PMYou can technologically but not legally.
It's not like the old Quark where it will stop you from running both on the local network. They will both activate and run. The Adobe SWAT team may eventually show up at your door though. :toaster:
Pic of Adobe SWAT team.
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:lmao:
:goodpost: :laugh:
Quote from: Farabomb on August 15, 2014, 02:08:37 PMUmm, that makes perfect sense in an office environment. Every user needs a license.
Adobe is being nice by letting you install on 2 separate computers, one being at work and one being at home.
You new to the whole computer software thing?
Ummm nope.I had a my license at the shop and at home and if I wasn't at the shop people were on my computer. That's why I was questioning it, I ran it simultaneously. And Adobe is never nice.
I agree, I'm not a fan of adobe but they are bring nice by allowing it to be on 2 computers at the same time. PS used to the the most pirated software on the internet for a long time. I'm surprised they didn't lock it down.
They are giving away CS2.
God I remember swiping Quark 3 by loading it onto a floppy disk.
Quote from: Farabomb on August 15, 2014, 02:33:10 PMI agree, I'm not a fan of adobe but they are bring nice by allowing it to be on 2 computers at the same time. PS used to the the most pirated software on the internet for a long time. I'm surprised they didn't lock it down.
Quark lets you do that too. Just an FYI. :laugh:
I'm all over that. :sarcasm:
I had to call adobe to help me install, It wanted to update instead of install
He had me download Google Chrome so it would download faster
It installed in minutes, just fyi
Oh, so now Adobe is in cahoots with Google? We're Doomed!
If you try to download Flash it tries to convince you download Chrome too.
After all the slowness of firefart I went to chrome and never looked back.
WTF is up with Flash nowadays, anyway? Why can't it just update itself - why do I have to download it, close all browsers and install?
We upgraded to CC last year but still maintain all previous versions on our systems to accommodate any files we are sent. This year with the CC 2014 we have to upgrade our OS from Snow Leopard to Lion in order to use it. We did this with one system so far and it buggered our Preps 5.3 as Lion no longer supports the PPC programs. Now we have to upgrade Preps... so the arduous climb out of the software dark ages begins...
Since I'm never given the time needed to learn any new software I will be dragged kicking and screaming up that upgrade path.
Quote from: Possum on August 19, 2014, 11:45:49 AM
Oh, so now Adobe is in cahoots with Google? We're Doomed!
Yes, we are, and so is Adobe. I cancelled two licenses today blaming it on coronavirus and Adobe let them go without a fight! Win!
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