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Title: Freehand ?
Post by: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 11:21:08 AM
I know I asked this somewhere before but for the life of me can't find it right now. So... Awhile back I was having FH issues and had to reinstall. My fonts then chose NOT to print unless changed to paths. After a couple weeks or so, they magically started to work. Yesterday, I got my pretty, shiny new iMac and copied everything over to it, and guess what???? Again, the freaking fonts won't print! Any ideas? Do I try to reinstall? Or do I just float along and see if FH starts to cooperate in a couple weeks again....
 :blowup:
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on January 15, 2009, 11:24:44 AM
What kind of Font Management software are you using?
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 11:28:12 AM
Font Book. I'm NOT really a fan.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: PrepressCrapFixer on January 15, 2009, 11:30:25 AM
Try FEX
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: gnubler on January 15, 2009, 11:32:36 AM
Font Book is the devil. At least it was when I tried to use it a few years ago.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on January 15, 2009, 11:36:23 AM
That is the problem... NOT Freehand.

Go get a free copy of Linotype Font Explorer and start living free.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 11:36:59 AM
If FEX free? And I'll have to run this by my supervisor before I dl and install something on the pretty, shiny new machine. Dammit anyway. Of course, like I said - the last time this happened, it straightened itself out after a couple weeks. :angry:
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on January 15, 2009, 11:38:52 AM
Did your clean your font caches? In Quark TOO? Chelle, if you don't, you are going to see things like this continue, even wih FEX.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Joe on January 15, 2009, 11:44:39 AM
FEX is no longer free.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on January 15, 2009, 11:58:44 AM
The New version isn't. The original one that we run is.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 11:58:54 AM
OK - I just got the go ahead on Font Explorer. Since I'm feeling a bit stupid today - maybe my brain is frozen - just refresh my memory on cleaning the font cache.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on January 15, 2009, 12:12:13 PM
Quote from: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 11:58:54 AMOK - I just got the go ahead on Font Explorer. Since I'm feeling a bit stupid today - maybe my brain is frozen - just refresh my memory on cleaning the font cache.

You will need a program like ONYX to do this.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Joe on January 15, 2009, 12:30:10 PM
Yes, but with anything else, we in prepress need to stay current on software.

Here is a link to the old free version if anyone needs it:

http://fex.linotype.com/download/mac/FontExplorerX123.dmg

Chelle, you can clean the font cache with FEX after you install it. Requires system reboot afterwards.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 12:32:12 PM
Quote from: Joe on January 15, 2009, 12:30:10 PMYes, but with anything else, we in prepress need to stay current on software.

Here is a link to the old free version if anyone needs it:

http://fex.linotype.com/download/mac/FontExplorerX123.dmg (http://fex.linotype.com/download/mac/FontExplorerX123.dmg)

Chelle, you can clean the font cache with FEX after you install it. Requires system reboot afterwards.
Here is a link to the page that I dl'd it from... Same thing? :huh:

http://www.linotype.com/2631/freedownloadmac.html

PS - have not installed yet - going to pop back to the break room and eat lunch quick...
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on January 15, 2009, 12:33:14 PM
Quote from: Joe on January 15, 2009, 12:30:10 PMYes, but with anything else, we in prepress need to stay current on software.

Here is a link to the old free version if anyone needs it:

http://fex.linotype.com/download/mac/FontExplorerX123.dmg

Chelle, you can clean the font cache with FEX after you install it. Requires system reboot afterwards.

Tell that to my Jew boss.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Joe on January 15, 2009, 12:36:11 PM
Quote from: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 12:32:12 PM
Quote from: Joe on January 15, 2009, 12:30:10 PMYes, but with anything else, we in prepress need to stay current on software.

Here is a link to the old free version if anyone needs it:

http://fex.linotype.com/download/mac/FontExplorerX123.dmg (http://fex.linotype.com/download/mac/FontExplorerX123.dmg)

Chelle, you can clean the font cache with FEX after you install it. Requires system reboot afterwards.
Here is a link to the page that I dl'd it from... Same thing? :huh:

http://www.linotype.com/2631/freedownloadmac.html (http://www.linotype.com/2631/freedownloadmac.html)

PS - have not installed yet - going to pop back to the break room and eat lunch quick...

Yes, it appears that is the same version as the one I linked to.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Joe on January 15, 2009, 12:36:43 PM
Quote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on January 15, 2009, 12:33:14 PM
Quote from: Joe on January 15, 2009, 12:30:10 PMYes, but with anything else, we in prepress need to stay current on software.

Here is a link to the old free version if anyone needs it:

http://fex.linotype.com/download/mac/FontExplorerX123.dmg (http://fex.linotype.com/download/mac/FontExplorerX123.dmg)

Chelle, you can clean the font cache with FEX after you install it. Requires system reboot afterwards.

Tell that to my Jew boss.

What's his number? I'll give him a call.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on January 15, 2009, 12:38:54 PM
I'll PM it to you. I wouldn't want any lurking Blood-Sausages thinking they found their Messiah.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 01:28:36 PM
OK, Font Gods, which is your preferred way to manage fonts with FEX: copying or moving?
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on January 15, 2009, 01:31:42 PM
Moving.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Joe on January 15, 2009, 01:35:28 PM
Copying if you want to keep the originals. Moving deletes the originals.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on January 15, 2009, 01:36:35 PM
WAIT Chelle, that's what I meant!!!! Copying... don't listen to me... EVER!
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 01:37:51 PM
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I'll remember that, DCS... Luckily I had not "pushed any buttons" yet.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 01:45:22 PM
Now it's asking me to add my fonts. Do I just drag them into the Library/Application Support/Adobe/Fonts folder? Or do I select the location where my fonts are?

Bear in mind, I just left the fonts where they have always been since I took over this machine: Hardrive/Library/Fonts
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Joe on January 15, 2009, 01:49:41 PM
Quote from: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 01:45:22 PMNow it's asking me to add my fonts. Do I just drag them into the Library/Application Support/Adobe/Fonts folder? Or do I select the location where my fonts are?

Bear in mind, I just left the fonts where they have always been since I took over this machine: Hardrive/Library/Fonts

The fonts in those folders are open all of the time. If all of your fonts are open all of the time you don't need a font manager. FEX is for opening and closing fonts sets for differing jobs.

I would not add any fonts at installation. After it's installed I would create font sets for each job. Then drag and drop fonts onto that font set and it will copy the fonts from the original location to your FEX folder in your "Users:~:Linotype Font Explorer" folder. Then you can open and close the fonts sets at will.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 01:52:02 PM
OK - Some fonts I DO want open all the time because I do those jobs literally on a daily basis - hotel jobs, etc.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 01:55:53 PM
How about the option to install special plug-ins for intercepting font requests? :huh: Man alive, this is fancy! :laugh:
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Joe on January 15, 2009, 02:28:55 PM
Quote from: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 01:55:53 PMHow about the option to install special plug-ins for intercepting font requests? :huh: Man alive, this is fancy! :laugh:

I do us that feature for the apps it lists that I have. Works pretty good.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 02:42:30 PM
Now, if I unload all the fonts from that OTHER folder, FEX should run the show, right? :huh:
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Joe on January 15, 2009, 04:06:55 PM
Quote from: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 02:42:30 PMNow, if I unload all the fonts from that OTHER folder, FEX should run the show, right? :huh:

Unload what fonts in what folder? I've slept since we last discussed this?
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: gnubler on January 15, 2009, 04:08:13 PM
Quote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on January 15, 2009, 12:33:14 PM
Quote from: Joe on January 15, 2009, 12:30:10 PMYes, but with anything else, we in prepress need to stay current on software.

Here is a link to the old free version if anyone needs it:

http://fex.linotype.com/download/mac/FontExplorerX123.dmg

Chelle, you can clean the font cache with FEX after you install it. Requires system reboot afterwards.

Tell that to my Jew boss.


 :sad:  :cry:  :angry: Dude, hello? I'm African-American.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 04:09:49 PM
Oh - I wondered if I unloaded the fonts in that Library folder if FEX would then take care of everything, BUT I have the FEX open and the fonts loaded in THAT (no I didn't unload the other folder yet), and I cleaned the caches, rebooted and WOOHOO! I just printed one thing out of FH and the fonts work. Thanks, Joe and DCS. I love you guys! :kiss:
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on January 15, 2009, 04:11:50 PM
Quote from: gnubler on January 15, 2009, 04:08:13 PM
Quote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on January 15, 2009, 12:33:14 PM
Quote from: Joe on January 15, 2009, 12:30:10 PMYes, but with anything else, we in prepress need to stay current on software.

Here is a link to the old free version if anyone needs it:

http://fex.linotype.com/download/mac/FontExplorerX123.dmg

Chelle, you can clean the font cache with FEX after you install it. Requires system reboot afterwards.

Tell that to my Jew boss.


 :sad:  :cry:  :angry: Dude, hello? I'm African-American.
I don't believe he cares for coloreds.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 04:13:58 PM
Ah crap... Spoke too soon. Printed another file to check and that one DIDN'T work. Shoot. :cry:
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Joe on January 15, 2009, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 04:09:49 PMOh - I wondered if I unloaded the fonts in that Library folder if FEX would then take care of everything, BUT I have the FEX open and the fonts loaded in THAT (no I didn't unload the other folder yet), and I cleaned the caches, rebooted and WOOHOO! I just printed one thing out of FH and the fonts work. Thanks, Joe and DCS. I love you guys! :kiss:

Be careful what you unload from the system font folders. There are required fonts in there that if you remove them your Mac won't run. There is a list around here somewhere. Probably in the "Fonts" category.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 04:19:26 PM
Quote from: Joe on January 15, 2009, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 04:09:49 PMOh - I wondered if I unloaded the fonts in that Library folder if FEX would then take care of everything, BUT I have the FEX open and the fonts loaded in THAT (no I didn't unload the other folder yet), and I cleaned the caches, rebooted and WOOHOO! I just printed one thing out of FH and the fonts work. Thanks, Joe and DCS. I love you guys! :kiss:

Be careful what you unload from the system font folders. There are required fonts in there that if you remove them your Mac won't run. There is a list around here somewhere. Probably in the "Fonts" category.
I remember seeing that somewhere. I'll do a search for it. Thanks!
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: gnubler on January 15, 2009, 04:47:38 PM
Quote from: Joe on January 15, 2009, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 04:09:49 PMOh - I wondered if I unloaded the fonts in that Library folder if FEX would then take care of everything, BUT I have the FEX open and the fonts loaded in THAT (no I didn't unload the other folder yet), and I cleaned the caches, rebooted and WOOHOO! I just printed one thing out of FH and the fonts work. Thanks, Joe and DCS. I love you guys! :kiss:

Be careful what you unload from the system font folders. There are required fonts in there that if you remove them your Mac won't run. There is a list around here somewhere. Probably in the "Fonts" category.

Don't move Geeza and Geeza Pro! You'll never use them, but the Macaroo likes them there. It's probably also connected to 2012 Winter Solstice.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: chris_r on January 15, 2009, 05:44:53 PM
here is a list of fonts that need to be permanently in your system fonts folder:

courier
geeza pro bold
geeza pro
geneva
helvetica
keyboard
lastresort
lucidagrande
monaco

empty out the library-fonts folder completely, and user-library-fonts folder.  i then made a alias of my user-library-fonts folder, and drag and drop fonts for each job i need, and simply drag them out and secure empty trash them when done.  then drag in fonts for the next job.  once we started doing that, that was the end of all our font issues.  over 5 years, no 3rd party font software, no issues whatsoever.  we do clean out font caches with onyx as mentioned earlier.
Title: Re: Freehand ?
Post by: Chelle on January 15, 2009, 06:48:51 PM
Thank you, Gnubler, Joe, Chris, DSC and everyone else who posted. I am at home right now relaxing with wine. (Big shock.) I will continue my font fest tomorrow. :grin: