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Title: Canva Pdfs
Post by: Tracy on September 20, 2019, 12:48:57 PM
Just a heads up:
My canva pdf printed the black text as grey, Only reason I noticed it is I had to print 3 of each on different paper.
I prolly wouldn't have noticed it otherwise and got bitten!

I pdfx1a'd the file and it was fine, even before I did that I had Device Cmyk'd a new pdf as it was acting strange when I went to fix the blacks.

I will pdfx1a all canva pdfs now! I guess I will have to start checking where my pdfs are coming from every time now that Canva is getting popular.
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: Joe on September 20, 2019, 01:37:16 PM
You can probably make it print solid by changing your color management settings to off when you print (from Acrobat I assume).
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: Tracy on September 20, 2019, 01:39:34 PM
Hmm, good question I dragged into CW

I guess I could just check all my proofs carefully when I get Canva.

I should be checking all my proofs carefully but sometimes I get going to fast!
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: Joe on September 20, 2019, 01:44:35 PM
Might be able to change CM in CW and make it print solid black. Or just do it the way you are doing it.  :rotf:
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: Tracy on September 20, 2019, 03:51:26 PM
It was a very light grey, I mean super light prolly the only way I noticed it.
I blame canva :laugh:
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: Joe on September 20, 2019, 06:35:01 PM
The color management thing will turn 100% black to around 86%. If it was way lighter than that CM isn't going to get you there.

And Canva is horrible. Had a job done it that a few weeks ago. :vomit:
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: motormount on September 21, 2019, 10:48:48 AM
Didn't know about canvas, but usually this kind of pdf's ( photoshop, corel, word etc ) have that certain feel that needs (cries for ) a second look.
- Even though prinect's normalizer did a pretty good job with most of them -
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: Slappy on September 22, 2019, 09:13:10 AM
I've started to be able to spot 99% of Canva PDFs submitted, just by the way they look. not sure if it's the fonts, or the limitations of the design tools but yeah - they can suck.

Know what's neat? I've placed a few in InDy and without Overprint Preview on, ALL the fonts appeared to be mirrored. Nifty.
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on September 24, 2019, 08:26:30 AM
Got one today, first one. No bleeds, type running almost to the trim. :vomit:
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: scottrsimons on September 24, 2019, 08:40:18 AM
Working with one of them there high end designers, huh, ps? They only use the best equip and software you know.  :sarcasm:
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on September 24, 2019, 08:56:56 AM
We get em all here. High end, low end and now Canva.

:vomit:
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: Tracy on September 24, 2019, 03:29:22 PM
the canva pdfs in my experience does have bleed just have to extend media box etc..
and using the object tool and deleting the clips seems to be easier then in pitstop.
tried extending bleed in pitstop and it mirrored when the bleed was actually there.
still a pain
I don't like canva >:(
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: Joe on September 24, 2019, 06:37:59 PM
Tracy, uncheck the box shown below in your action list and it won't mirror it if there is actually extra image there to display. It will just open up more image to fill the area needed for bleed.
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on September 25, 2019, 06:50:37 AM
Quote from: scottrsimons on September 24, 2019, 08:40:18 AM
Working with one of them there high end designers, huh, ps? They only use the best equip and software you know.  :sarcasm:

ps? I didn't know we were on a first name basis.

Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: Tracy on September 27, 2019, 12:53:55 PM
Quote from: Joe on September 24, 2019, 06:37:59 PM
Tracy, uncheck the box shown below in your action list and it won't mirror it if there is actually extra image there to display. It will just open up more image to fill the area needed for bleed.

Hey! I didn't know that was there!
mine is unchecked!
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: swampymarsh on September 27, 2019, 04:53:36 PM
In Acrobat, use File > Properties on a Canva PDF, is there any metadata that identifies the Application or PDF Producer on the Description tab (possibly Author or Creator)? You could possibly use this for eyeball or automated preflight "heads up".

I hate to nitpick, however, their website does not fill me with confidence:

https://support.canva.com/publish/printing/download-designs-print/

They mention DPI, not PPI. They mention RGB colour profile, not colour mode. Then there is the optional margins, crops and bleed:

https://support.canva.com/publish/printing/crop-marks-and-bleed/
https://support.canva.com/publish/printing/show-margins-bleed/
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: abc on September 27, 2019, 05:15:57 PM
Can someone post a sample PDF?
Would love to take a look.
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: Syphon on March 15, 2020, 05:43:03 PM
I plan to post an article on pdfs made from Canva to my Linkedin this week (possibly tomorrow at earliest).
Getting sick of these Canva pdfs and figure I put my two cents in.

I will try to remember to post a link to the article.
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: Slappy on March 16, 2020, 07:09:24 PM
Quote from: abc on September 27, 2019, 05:15:57 PM
Can someone post a sample PDF?
Would love to take a look.
Did you ever collect any samples to abuse? Probably have some I can fling your way, as long as they don't end up in Public demos. At least one department in a higher learning establishment has decided Canva is their favorite way to torture us lately.
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: Syphon on March 17, 2020, 06:01:53 AM
Here is my article on Canva that I shared on Linkedin:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/problem-canva-human-factor-joe-frazee
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: abc on March 17, 2020, 03:50:47 PM
PitStop Action List. Warns if files have been created or produced in Canva.
Yes we've seen them as well!
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: Joe on March 17, 2020, 04:07:47 PM
Quote from: abc on March 17, 2020, 03:50:47 PM
PitStop Action List. Warns if files have been created or produced in Canva.
Yes we've seen them as well!

Can you make it virtually punch them in the nose for using it?
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: abc on March 17, 2020, 04:48:48 PM
I always thought it would be nice to sometimes to be able to give an electric shock to the PDF creator.
It's a work in progress!
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: Slappy on March 17, 2020, 09:15:10 PM
Quote from: abc on March 17, 2020, 03:50:47 PM
PitStop Action List. Warns if files have been created or produced in Canva.
Yes we've seen them as well!
But can it Fix Bleeds and all the other magical unicorn things we commonly rely on Pitstop for these days? Canva seems to do some reallllly weird crap with the PDFs it generates.
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: Tracy on March 18, 2020, 11:59:13 AM
Yeah there could be bleed there but the gazillion clipping masks kills it!
Title: Re: Canva Pdfs
Post by: abc on March 18, 2020, 02:43:47 PM
You can certainly fix a lot, maybe try the 'Make my office document work' preflight profile?
Does a lot of fixes that would be needed.