Are you using supplied color bars and marks through Preps or are you generating your own?

Supplied

Well, if your version is anything like mine, Preps does not get installed on the Apogee box -- it is installed either on your machine or some places use a central computer that operators share to make their templates.

Apogee uses something called Preps Template Manager, which is an option that lets you select your templates and assign pages to the run list within the job plan. Sounds like that is what you are doing. You still create your templates on whatever computer has Preps, then you save the templates and marks somewhere that both Preps and Apogee can see them (on the Apogee box).

I think you're right. Thinking back to the first version of apogee it was set up just as you describe.

The fix was "PDF > PDF".

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Quote from: jimking on June 14, 2010, 12:18:58 PMThe fix was "PDF > PDF".

I'm confused - I thought you said you were applying the imposition within Apogee, which to me means that you would not even be creating a Preps job? Sounds to me like you are making a fully-imposed hi-res PDF from Preps and then feeding that to Apogee as a flat.

No matter, I'm just glad you got it worked out.

Quote from: DCurry on June 15, 2010, 05:19:04 AM

Quote from: jimking on June 14, 2010, 12:18:58 PMThe fix was "PDF > PDF".

I'm confused - I thought you said you were applying the imposition within Apogee, which to me means that you would not even be creating a Preps job? Sounds to me like you are making a fully-imposed hi-res PDF from Preps and then feeding that to Apogee as a flat.

No matter, I'm just glad you got it worked out.

I'm creating an impo in preps and placing pages through apogee for trap, rendering, viewing then release to CTP.

So, are you outputting a PJTF from Preps (using a PDF>PDF Preps job and using blank pages in the run list)?

Quote from: DCurry on June 15, 2010, 08:06:58 AMSo, are you outputting a PJTF from Preps (using a PDF>PDF Preps job and using blank pages in the run list)?

Exactly.

Ahh, now it's becoming clear to me.

So, I'm curious - how come you don't select the template within Apogee instead? Seems like it would save you a step and the only thing you'd use Preps for is to create the template. I'm still a newbie to Apogee so maybe I'm missing something.

Yeah, I'm with DCurry on this one. Unless you don't have template manager, in which case you're screwed with PJTF. I've tried a million ways to get it work with Apology, only got Preps6 to work and that was with setting the marks to embed in the PJTF.
It just don't work! Gay Agfa Shit!! 

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Rotary, it is my understanding that Agfa is trying to push Preps aside and have come up with their own impo solution. During my recent install and training of a new Apogee system, it became painfully apparent that some features of Preps 5.3.3 don't work well with Apogee, so I'm not surprised that it is worse with Preps 6.

Quote from: DCurry on June 15, 2010, 11:02:44 AMAhh, now it's becoming clear to me.

So, I'm curious - how come you don't select the template within Apogee instead? Seems like it would save you a step and the only thing you'd use Preps for is to create the template. I'm still a newbie to Apogee so maybe I'm missing something.

That's what we are doing. Create the PJTF template, name it, save it and grab it through Apogee. So far it seems to work ok and we do have preps 5.3.3. We are slow now and have not output anything for press through apogee using our new Acenta CTP except test plates done by the tech only. So, all I've been doing is making templates, throwing old jobs into the template, hit the thumbs up and listen for the beep beep and hit cancel just to get the swing of it----   

Quote from: jimking on June 16, 2010, 10:58:15 AM

Quote from: DCurry on June 15, 2010, 11:02:44 AMAhh, now it's becoming clear to me.

So, I'm curious - how come you don't select the template within Apogee instead? Seems like it would save you a step and the only thing you'd use Preps for is to create the template. I'm still a newbie to Apogee so maybe I'm missing something.

That's what we are doing. Create the PJTF template, name it, save it and grab it through Apogee. So far it seems to work ok and we do have preps 5.3.3. We are slow now and have not output anything for press through apogee using our new Acenta CTP except test plates done by the tech only. So, all I've been doing is making templates, throwing old jobs into the template, hit the thumbs up and listen for the beep beep and hit cancel just to get the swing of it----   

I think what Dan is saying is that you don't need to use Preps at all. From Apogee select the template and assign the pages to it...just like Prinergy from the sound of it.