Prepress Positions WI & IL

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Joe

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Quote from: Tracy on November 09, 2021, 12:56:47 PM
I worked union too, yep you can't do anybody's work, you can't start 1 minute before shift
and so many workers you wanted to do someone else's work  :laugh:
(lots of standing around)

And especially don't try doing another's job on overtime. They would kill you multiple times for that.
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Joe

Quote from: born2print on November 09, 2021, 12:50:48 PM
My experience was the opposite. I did shipping / receiving, deliveries, bindery... THEN prepress from the bottom (filing, contacting, camera helper, color keys and bluelines)
I think it gave me a much better understanding of what it takes to make product as good as it could or should be.
There's other prepressers that really don't even understand things like binding styles or sig IDs by contrast. They may even know what to do mostly but don't truly understand it so if a wrench gets thrown in they are helpless.
I much prefer production background to a rebaked designer or Kinkos type person.

You perfectly defined a lot of prepress people that only want to be shown how to do specific things instead of learning why you have to do those things.
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The seven ages of man: spills, drills, thrills, bills, ills, pills and wills.

Foozball

 :cane:
If I remember correctly, there's a "trick" to the blood sausage in the cooking ... if you don't slow cook them, they "look" and smell great, but when you cut into it ... it's straight up raw, and the blood will run and ruin your whole plate!
Much like some employees, they look/act right but the moment the pressure is applied ... that person you're excited to work with, goes to CRAP and your dreams are ruined.


Those EXTRA skills in printing are key to our survival ... I have a few years under my belt now, helping customer-graphics teams, work through a heap of corporate "ideal plans", as they don't have production experience or knowledge in die-cutting ... I gained most of that experience at times when prepress wasn't busy.

Possum

The more understanding you have as to the rest of the processes, the better you can do your job and help the job get finished on schedule. You probably won't ever get credit for that, but if you can make the job easier for the next person in the process, it goes a long way toward making a more pleasant workplace.
Tall tree, short ropes, fix stupid.

David

the deal about knowing the processs, is that your main job is to make the next persons job easier.

sadly, that only works from prepress down, if it only started at the dezinger.

:hangme:
Prepress guy - doin' jobs one at a time
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ksm1701

Not sure if it's true wherever in the world you might be based, but here in the UK, most of the 'Blood Sausage' types I have every worked with have all tended to end up as department managers!

Tracy


Skryber

Quote from: David on November 09, 2021, 04:31:25 PM
the deal about knowing the processs, is that your main job is to make the next persons job easier.

sadly, that only works from prepress down, if it only started at the dezinger.

:hangme:

Hey hey now.....starts at this designer. I have a BAS in multimedia where they taught you how to do everything wrong (so I kind of understand where they get it from), then started a job in a bindery, moved onto prepress, learned how to run the presses, got into digital, and THEN started freelance designing. There are NO issues with my files. :rotf:
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Joe

Quote from: Skryber on November 10, 2021, 04:30:33 PM
Quote from: David on November 09, 2021, 04:31:25 PM
the deal about knowing the processs, is that your main job is to make the next persons job easier.

sadly, that only works from prepress down, if it only started at the dezinger.

:hangme:

Hey hey now.....starts at this designer. I have a BAS in multimedia where they taught you how to do everything wrong (so I kind of understand where they get it from), then started a job in a bindery, moved onto prepress, learned how to run the presses, got into digital, and THEN started freelance designing. There are NO issues with my files. :rotf:

You are the exception to the rule. The designers of the world would be a lot better at their job if they had to do 3 months of hard time prepress before they would be allowed to touch a design application.
Mac OS Monterey 12.4 | (retired)

The seven ages of man: spills, drills, thrills, bills, ills, pills and wills.

Possum

Quote from: David on November 09, 2021, 04:31:25 PM
the deal about knowing the processs, is that your main job is to make the next persons job easier.

sadly, that only works from prepress down, if it only started at the dezinger.

:hangme:

I used the be the designer (although I spent most of my time fixing other people's crap). I always tried to make the next guy's job easier, especially with screen printing. It just made sense to me and kept my coworkers from hating me too much. Self preservation goes a long way.
Tall tree, short ropes, fix stupid.

Foozball

Just a reminder over the original intention of this post ... if you have solid prepress skills and am "on the fence" about your future, figure out a price (then add padding), apply and PLEASE HELP ME!

My day today ...  :shoots_self: :hangme: :death: :banghead: :shoots_self: :shoots_self: :shoots_self:
:facepalm:

Joe

Quote from: Foozball on November 11, 2021, 03:07:20 PM
Just a reminder over the original intention of this post ... if you have solid prepress skills and am "on the fence" about your future, figure out a price (then add padding), apply and PLEASE HELP ME!

My day today ...  :shoots_self: :hangme: :death: :banghead: :shoots_self: :shoots_self: :shoots_self:
:facepalm:

My day everyday ...  :shoots_self: :hangme: :death: :banghead: :shoots_self: :shoots_self: :shoots_self:
:facepalm:
Mac OS Monterey 12.4 | (retired)

The seven ages of man: spills, drills, thrills, bills, ills, pills and wills.