Xante Ilumina

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Slappy

October 08, 2012, 11:48:06 AM
It appears they're installing a Xante Ilumina GS inkjet envelope printer here in the next few days. And by "here" I mean right here - in the prep dept. And we'll be operating the damned thing. Greeeeaaaaat.

Anybody have one of these little beasts and have any words of encouragement for me? PLEASE??  :banghead:
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t-pat

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October 08, 2012, 11:55:39 AM
Quote from: Slappy on October 08, 2012, 11:48:06 AMIt appears they're installing a Xante Ilumina GS inkjet envelope printer here in the next few days. And by "here" I mean right here - in the prep dept. And we'll be operating the damned thing. Greeeeaaaaat.

Anybody have one of these little beasts and have any words of encouragement for me? PLEASE??  :banghead:
we have a laser envelope printer that looks very similar, it is basically a Xerox 7400 with an envelope feeder and some crappy software. We haven't been running nearly as many envelopes on our GTO since getting that.

looks like yours is laser as well, not inkjet.
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Slappy

#2
October 08, 2012, 12:37:02 PM
Huh, well that's Lie #1 then! Many more to follow I'm sure.
A little diddie 'bout black 'n cyan...two reflective colors doin' the best they can.

t-pat

#3
October 08, 2012, 12:59:55 PM
actually the print engine looks identical, the only differences I see are the feeder and delivery, ours is configured differently. The thing is a xerox 7400 but they've got to have bastard consumables, we have a 7400 and they don't take the same toner, or imaging units, the chip is different and it won't read them.

all in all though it isn't terrible. The rip blows ass though, for some reason you can't send a page range. This sucks for when we do mailings on it because the image position setup is terrible on it. yours hopefully has a better front end.
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Slappy

#4
October 13, 2012, 05:29:37 PM
So, that happened Friday morning. Into early Friday afternoon. The installer had it all set up by the time I rolled in, doesn't take up much space fortunately. I have to say, it is one jury-rigged piece of machinery. As he was showing us all how to load it & adjust the feeder and the delivery belt thingy it just seemed very half-assed, but I guess it works as long as nobody nudges it. Luckily we have it tucked out of path of most people.

The print quality from what I've seen so far is - meh. It's a laser printer, plain & simple. I can't honestly believe it can replace our 2c press but maybe client expectations really have fallen so low I'll be wrong. Not real sure how good/bad the RIP is yet, we sent a few test jobs over and it was fine for basic setups. Oh, the one thing I do NOT like is that we have to create print presets in InDesign/Quark/Freehand for every single envelope size. You cannot just select it at print time, otherwise an A2 goes over as a Letter, as does a #10, a Monarch, etc. So my Print Preset Menu is going to be cluttered as shit. Not sure if there's a workaround to re-ordering them in CS6, even if there's a plug-in I have to buy.

I asked the installer about addressing inline and he's all "Oh yeah, it does it." Okay, show me on the RIP. "Oh, you have to do all that on the Mac end, this doesn't have anything built-in but it'll print them!" No shit, Sherlock. Couldn't tell us what formats the RIP accepts either or if every address in a 1500 name list would have to be individual PDFs. I'll poke around Monday, there's gotta be a faster way.

Yay for new hardware nobody has researched!  :death:
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Farabomb

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October 15, 2012, 07:48:32 AM
Isn't that always the case? Salesman comes in, blows smoke up the higher-ups ass then you have some P.O.S. that you have to make work.
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t-pat

#6
October 15, 2012, 10:57:09 AM
yeah ours looks like someone built it in their garage too, feeding is finicky. Rip is a joke, but it has one.

You'll need to buy special window envelopes if running those, or you'll melt the windows in the fuser too.
And of course if you're printing envelopes intended for lasering later, you can't. It'll re-fuse.
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DigiCorn

#7
October 15, 2012, 10:58:27 AM
Quote from: Slappy on October 08, 2012, 11:48:06 AMIt appears they're installing a Xante Ilumina GS inkjet envelope printer here in the next few days. And by "here" I mean right here - in the prep dept. And we'll be operating the damned thing. Greeeeaaaaat.

Anybody have one of these little beasts and have any words of encouragement for me? PLEASE??  :banghead:
Can't help you. I am doing the same thing, but on a Xerox 4110.
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delooch

#8
October 15, 2012, 11:19:07 AM
Quote from: Slappy on October 08, 2012, 11:48:06 AMIt appears they're installing a Xante Ilumina GS inkjet envelope printer here in the next few days. And by "here" I mean right here - in the prep dept. And we'll be operating the damned thing. Greeeeaaaaat.

Anybody have one of these little beasts and have any words of encouragement for me? PLEASE??  :banghead:

yeah, ill trade you for my RISO anyday.

Tracy

#9
October 15, 2012, 01:44:40 PM
we have a Xante in our copy dept
I don't like it, I always print from pdf
you have to be careful of the color profile
it seems to switch from no color management to postscript or something
I always check after I have printed to the xante
The only thing it is good for is the 4 color envelopes
that aren't worth printing IMO

t-pat

#10
October 15, 2012, 02:07:48 PM
Quote from: Tracy on October 15, 2012, 01:44:40 PMwe have a Xante in our copy dept
I don't like it, I always print from pdf
you have to be careful of the color profile
it seems to switch from no color management to postscript or something
I always check after I have printed to the xante
The only thing it is good for is the 4 color envelopes
that aren't worth printing IMO
Agree with you on that - BUT - before we got ours probably half the jobs we printed on our GTO were 2 and 4 color envelopes. Now the percentage is like nearly zero. We dropped a shift on that press and are not hiring for that shift anytime soon.
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DigiCorn

#11
October 15, 2012, 02:17:12 PM
Quote from: Tracy on October 15, 2012, 01:44:40 PMaren't worth printing IMO
what is? except paychecks
"There's been a lot of research recently on how hard it is to dislodge an impression once it's been implanted in someone's mind. (This is why political attack ads don't have to be true to be effective. The other side can point out their inaccuracies, but the voter's mind privileges the memory of the original accusation, which was juicier than any counterargument ever could be.)"
― Johnny Carson

"Selling my soul would be a lot easier if I could just find it."
– Nikki Sixx

"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut."
― Ernest Hemingway

Joe

#12
October 15, 2012, 02:24:05 PM
Quote from: DigiCorn on October 15, 2012, 02:17:12 PM
Quote from: Tracy on October 15, 2012, 01:44:40 PMaren't worth printing IMO
what is? except paychecks

You still get printed paychecks? How 19990's... :tongue:
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DigiCorn

#13
October 15, 2012, 02:55:35 PM
Quote from: Joe on October 15, 2012, 02:24:05 PM
Quote from: DigiCorn on October 15, 2012, 02:17:12 PM
Quote from: Tracy on October 15, 2012, 01:44:40 PMaren't worth printing IMO
what is? except paychecks

You still get printed paychecks? How 19990's... :tongue:
typo?
"There's been a lot of research recently on how hard it is to dislodge an impression once it's been implanted in someone's mind. (This is why political attack ads don't have to be true to be effective. The other side can point out their inaccuracies, but the voter's mind privileges the memory of the original accusation, which was juicier than any counterargument ever could be.)"
― Johnny Carson

"Selling my soul would be a lot easier if I could just find it."
– Nikki Sixx

"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut."
― Ernest Hemingway

gnubler

#14
October 15, 2012, 03:02:31 PM
It's in the future, after the internet collapses and things are actually printed on paper again.
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Quote from: pspdfppdfx on December 06, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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