Here is what I am getting:
Start with the rectangle tool and create a square 1" x 1" (any size will work)
Sign a stroke of 1pt (again whatever weight you want) aligned to center.
Now look at the Transform Panel and see that the size indicated is off, in this case 1.0139 x 1.0139 - it includes the stroke weight in the dimension.
This sucks! If, like me, you use the Transform Panel to resize things, the final object is not true to the size typed in.
This is new to this particular version, I did a check with the older version. Bug reported to Adobe this morning.
Good luck with that bug report.
It's not a bug. In actuality, Adobe "fixed" the problem. You are assigning a stroke with a value of one point to a box set to 1" x 1" or whatever, BUT you are setting the stroke to center on line in the transform palette. Logic would say, because you are adding a stroke that the 1 x 1 box would need to be a half point larger. Try setting the stoke to "inside" and it will be fine.
Uncheck in preferences / general / use preview bounds
Quote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on September 01, 2016, 10:16:03 AMIt's not a bug. In actuality, Adobe "fixed" the problem. You are assigning a stroke with a value of one point to a box set to 1" x 1" or whatever, BUT you are setting the stroke to center on line in the transform palette. Logic would say, because you are adding a stroke that the 1 x 1 box would need to be a half point larger. Try setting the stoke to "inside" and it will be fine.
Winner.
Quote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on September 01, 2016, 10:16:03 AMIt's not a bug. In actuality, Adobe "fixed" the problem. You are assigning a stroke with a value of one point to a box set to 1" x 1" or whatever, BUT you are setting the stroke to center on line in the transform palette. Logic would say, because you are adding a stroke that the 1 x 1 box would need to be a half point larger. Try setting the stoke to "inside" and it will be fine.
Yeah, i know that is the way InDesign works, but up until now illy has not. I'm of the opinion that if i use the rectangle tool to create a 1 x 1 square and it comes out as such, i should be able to type .5 x .5 into the Transform dialog and expect the same behavior.
I am resizing the object, the stroke is an "add-on" that will vary in weight depending upon what kinda of effect i want. the stroke should not account for the over all size. If I choose to, i can expand the stroke later to have it included as an object.
I also like to be able to over print the stroke for a quick trap. This "fix" wasn't announced in the release notes, for me it's a big hassle.
Quote from: Pedro J on September 01, 2016, 10:42:06 AMUncheck in preferences / general / use preview bounds
Pedro, i love you.
I actually kinda looked at the settings to see if I had something turned on, that didn't stand out to me. So much for porting over settings!
So I'm a dope. Glad it was that and not something i would to have waiting 6 months for!
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:rotf:
Quote from: Grimace on September 01, 2016, 10:50:29 AMQuote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on September 01, 2016, 10:16:03 AMIt's not a bug. In actuality, Adobe "fixed" the problem. You are assigning a stroke with a value of one point to a box set to 1" x 1" or whatever, BUT you are setting the stroke to center on line in the transform palette. Logic would say, because you are adding a stroke that the 1 x 1 box would need to be a half point larger. Try setting the stoke to "inside" and it will be fine.
Yeah, i know that is the way InDesign works, but up until now illy has not. I'm of the opinion that if i use the rectangle tool to create a 1 x 1 square and it comes out as such, i should be able to type .5 x .5 into the Transform dialog and expect the same behavior.
I am resizing the object, the stroke is an "add-on" that will vary in weight depending upon what kinda of effect i want. the stroke should not account for the over all size. If I choose to, i can expand the stroke later to have it included as an object.
I also like to be able to over print the stroke for a quick trap. This "fix" wasn't announced in the release notes, for me it's a big hassle.
I understand what you are saying, but really, it was more of a problem for me the way it "used to be." If I want to emulate how Illustrator was, I can do what Pedro suggested, OR I can do it in the transform palette. The way it is now, is much more customizable. So again, not really a bug, you just have to AGAIN, deal with Adobe changing something. Anyway, glad you got it "fixed". Nothing I hate more than getting used to something, and having to change my MO for an upgrade change.
I'm seeing a bug in the new illy, I command S to save and when I go to close it asks me do I want to save.
This is new to me, I think it's because it's a different version but it still should save over.
This is annoying :laugh:
hope there is a pref for this!
Damn I miss the daily DCS. You're good at explaining stuff. :kona:
Quote from: Tracy on September 01, 2016, 12:29:23 PMI'm seeing a bug in the new illy, I command S to save and when I go to close it asks me do I want to save.
This is new to me, I think it's because it's a different version but it still should save over.
This is annoying :laugh:
hope there is a pref for this!
I think I saw this recently addressed on here, Command S+W to save and close at same time.
I think any time the slightest action is taken, like locking a layer, it will ask if you want to save changes.
Quote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on September 01, 2016, 11:06:23 AMQuote from: Grimace on September 01, 2016, 10:50:29 AMQuote from: DigitalCrapShoveler on September 01, 2016, 10:16:03 AMIt's not a bug. In actuality, Adobe "fixed" the problem. You are assigning a stroke with a value of one point to a box set to 1" x 1" or whatever, BUT you are setting the stroke to center on line in the transform palette. Logic would say, because you are adding a stroke that the 1 x 1 box would need to be a half point larger. Try setting the stoke to "inside" and it will be fine.
Yeah, i know that is the way InDesign works, but up until now illy has not. I'm of the opinion that if i use the rectangle tool to create a 1 x 1 square and it comes out as such, i should be able to type .5 x .5 into the Transform dialog and expect the same behavior.
I am resizing the object, the stroke is an "add-on" that will vary in weight depending upon what kinda of effect i want. the stroke should not account for the over all size. If I choose to, i can expand the stroke later to have it included as an object.
I also like to be able to over print the stroke for a quick trap. This "fix" wasn't announced in the release notes, for me it's a big hassle.
I understand what you are saying, but really, it was more of a problem for me the way it "used to be." If I want to emulate how Illustrator was, I can do what Pedro suggested, OR I can do it in the transform palette. The way it is now, is much more customizable. So again, not really a bug, you just have to AGAIN, deal with Adobe changing something. Anyway, glad you got it "fixed". Nothing I hate more than getting used to something, and having to change my MO for an upgrade change.
This setting is completely new to me, but as it turns out, I just went back to see, and this has been an available feature since at least CS5.
If you get your dimensions from the Control bar at the top instead of the Transform panel it always shows the actual unstroked dimensions, no matter where your stroke is aligned.
Quote from: Tracy on September 01, 2016, 12:29:23 PMI'm seeing a bug in the new illy, I command S to save and when I go to close it asks me do I want to save.
This is new to me, I think it's because it's a different version but it still should save over.
This is annoying :laugh:
hope there is a pref for this!
Figured it out, my keyboard shortcut was somehow removed :laugh: :banghead:
Quote from: Ear on September 01, 2016, 01:25:06 PMDamn I miss the daily DCS. You're good at explaining stuff. :kona:
Eh, you are, too. At least I think so.
Problem is, I have to remember back when I suffered through these little daily frustrations. I don't really use the software for Prepress as much as I used to. At least not on a daily routine. I'm building more shit than I am trouble-shooting.
I actually sat down and had to write a few scripts for a TV spot last night. Although I was too busy to attend the shoot today, I did get to see the uncut footage and it was really weird to see actors, local celebrities saying what I wrote. Kinda cool.
My new job is actually pretty fun. I am doing all kinds of shit I am totally uncomfortable with. Shooting video, writing scripts, managing sign construction and installations... the suck part is being nice to people. I'm not very good at it at all. Haha
I'm also doing some renderings for a t-shirt company, and doing portrait work after hours. It's getting there. Being unemployed for so long takes a while to get back in the swing.
Oh, and Curry's right about the control palette. I forgot to mention that.
Glad to hear you are happy with work.
... but I call bullshit on the people thing. I think analog shoveler is probably a sweetheart. :hello:
He forgot fluffer in his job description. :wink:
Quote from: Ear on September 01, 2016, 04:57:39 PMGlad to hear you are happy with work.
... but I call bullshit on the people thing. I think analog shoveler is probably a sweetheart. :hello:
Shit... I wish that were true. You see, I am extremely motivated when I am pissed off. I try to stay like that all the time. It's not really very hard.
Quote from: Farabomb on September 02, 2016, 06:26:12 AMHe forgot fluffer in his job description. :wink:
Check this out... http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/crs/5716436463.html
WTF?!?! :lmao:
I'm strangely intrigued now.
"creative services"
:rolleyes:
That was the ad. Nothing more to it. I don't know, reply to the guy, see what his deal is.
I did, he asked for help moving a couch as payment.
Fool me once...
Quote from: Farabomb on September 02, 2016, 12:17:28 PMI did, he asked for help moving a couch as payment.
Fool me once...
You are so full of shit. I never got a reply.