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Title: 'Wrong' direction shingling on 12pp
Post by: frailer on July 20, 2015, 10:01:42 PM
Having my own issues here. This is a yearly job. We had it on rails last year, I swear.

But then I trusted thems upstairs to keep my XMF Archive files in the 'bottomless' RAID drive in the office. Hah!! I' was an idiot... but that's another (ongoing) story.
I should be able to restore the Archive Job and get a cup of tea, but here is cavemen re-inventing the wheel.

Am still awaiting the text files to come in, TG, so i have time to prep it. Here's a link to the dummied job.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/ydalmv74nvkepxw/Archived_job_for_Wayne.zip

My questions are, basically, on a 12pp impo like this, are the 'x' and 'y' values swung around?
Do I have to change the negative to a positive value on the 0.36 figure?
Normally, with 'x' set to negative figure, the pages shingle in, and 'shrink' incrementally to retain perfect crossovers. Not happening on this job.  :undecided:

Some screenshots, as well.

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Edit... because of the RAID clusterfuck, am not sure if the Stripping Sheet Templates I'm trying to use were obtained from the XMF Pattern Library. I recall that I had to use them in the past for 12 pagers, as home-made ones did not pick up Creep Comp properly. This could be the issue here.

Off to do another dummy job, using XMF Patterns.   :shoots_self:
Title: Re: 'Wrong' direction shingling on 12pp
Post by: frailer on July 21, 2015, 01:39:09 AM
OK, sorry about the carry-on. Outa the woods, I think.  Just needed to tinker more, test. 12 pp Patterns do throw things off a bit; gotta watch the proper field settings.

Screenshots show page width at centre, around 6mm; but that's prolly right. Also decreasing trim offsets as whole pages shrink incrementally on the way to the centre spread.

Hoo well.

Title: Re: 'Wrong' direction shingling on 12pp
Post by: Tracy on July 21, 2015, 08:49:02 AM
yours looks a little different than mine, did you need to have the default creep selected?
I see it's not selected.
Title: Re: 'Wrong' direction shingling on 12pp
Post by: Joe on July 21, 2015, 09:25:36 AM
Creep on a 12 page job? What's it running on? 1/2" Plywood? :rotf:
Title: Re: 'Wrong' direction shingling on 12pp
Post by: Ear on July 21, 2015, 10:29:20 AM
 :lmao:
Title: Re: 'Wrong' direction shingling on 12pp
Post by: David on July 21, 2015, 03:15:03 PM
16 pages and over is our standard "when to creep" guide.
Title: Re: 'Wrong' direction shingling on 12pp
Post by: Joe on July 21, 2015, 03:25:10 PM
Quote from: david on July 21, 2015, 03:15:03 PM16 pages and over is our standard "when to creep" guide.

So you're using 1/4" plywood? :rotf:

Sheesh...our standard is 80 pages but you can see through most of the paper we use.
Title: Re: 'Wrong' direction shingling on 12pp
Post by: DCurry on July 21, 2015, 04:02:26 PM
I don't even think about adding creep until I hit 24 pages unless the stock is thicker than usual and/or the design requires it. When I worked at the book printer, we did apply creep to books as small as 12 pages, but it was often only 1/32".
Title: Re: 'Wrong' direction shingling on 12pp
Post by: Farabomb on July 22, 2015, 06:48:06 AM
Depending on the artwork we have creeped 16pg books. Normally, it's not till 40+ pages.