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Title: Opening a PDF with Illustrator - Epic Fail
Post by: Fat Boy Tim on March 23, 2018, 08:31:36 AM
Hello Folks,

I am hosting an internal training session next week

One aim is to get the team to stop using Illustrator to check or correct PDF files created by non-Illustrator apps and I am looking for any PDF file that when opened in Illustrator causes obvious (or hard to discover) errors.

I have one or two but I'm looking for some variety.

Please - any files you have can be emailed to smleuropeltd@printosbox.com

In return I give you an Illustrator EPS file that displays either ABC or CBA depending on what app you use to open or preview it. The spot colours move around a bit too but that's less impressive.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4rflxr5eor9w6sx/ABC%20or%20CBA.eps.zip?dl=0

Thanks for reading and have a good weekend.

Cheers

Tim
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Title: Re: Opening a PDF with Illustrator - Epic Fail
Post by: Joe on March 25, 2018, 08:33:44 AM
The warning you get from Illustrator when you open a PDF that wasn't created in Illustrator should be enough for most people but ha ha....people tend to ignore warnings on their computer screen. Unless it is one that wants to fix their computer for them. They follow that through all of the time. >:(

But I don't have any known PDF's that cause an issue when you open it in Illustrator because I don't open PDF's in Illustrator. Sorry.
Title: Re: Opening a PDF with Illustrator - Epic Fail
Post by: mattbeals on March 26, 2018, 12:21:25 AM
Quote from: Joe on March 25, 2018, 08:33:44 AMThe warning you get from Illustrator when you open a PDF that wasn't created in Illustrator should be enough for most people but ha ha....people tend to ignore warnings on their computer screen. Unless it is one that wants to fix their computer for them. They follow that through all of the time. >:(

But I don't have any known PDF's that cause an issue when you open it in Illustrator because I don't open PDF's in Illustrator. Sorry.

I too should have a sample but alas I do not. I never do it unless I know it's an Illustrator created and saved PDF with Illustrator compatibility enabled.
Title: Re: Opening a PDF with Illustrator - Epic Fail
Post by: scottrsimons on March 26, 2018, 06:17:46 AM
I don't have any either, as the only time I open a PDF not made in Illy, in Illy is when I'm diagnosing a problem. Or when I only need one element from the PDF anyway, and I don't care about the errors.
Title: Re: Opening a PDF with Illustrator - Epic Fail
Post by: Slappy on March 26, 2018, 08:49:57 AM
Honestly, make some PDFs in InDesign/Photoshop/Canva or whatever that you know are going to get destroyed when opened in Illustrator. Better to show people how horribly wrong it can go, no need for "real" samples - they're likely never going to listen anyway.
Title: Re: Opening a PDF with Illustrator - Epic Fail
Post by: Joe on March 26, 2018, 08:55:56 AM
Quote from: Slappy on March 26, 2018, 08:49:57 AMHonestly, make some PDFs in InDesign/Photoshop/Canva or whatever that you know are going to get destroyed when opened in Illustrator. Better to show people how horribly wrong it can go, no need for "real" samples - they're likely never going to listen anyway.

This! Because they have been doing it that way for 20 years. It is why we still have design places send us version 1.3 pdf's. Because in 1998 a printer told them they needed version 1.3 pdf's.

Personally I blame this on Adobe. Illustrator should refuse to open a pdf that wasn't created in Illustrator and saved with the pdf edibility option. Also Photoshop should not be allowed to open or save a PDF.
Title: Re: Opening a PDF with Illustrator - Epic Fail
Post by: AaronH on March 26, 2018, 12:57:05 PM
I hate it when designers use Photoshop as a design tool. Really, just because they added a text tool, you're going to save yourself some time/money? it's going to take us time to either fix it which will cost much more, or just print it because it crap in - crap out.
Title: Re: Opening a PDF with Illustrator - Epic Fail
Post by: G_Town on March 26, 2018, 01:54:34 PM
We had a job come in as flattened photoshop files. Some 30 items.

Told sales this was BS and that he needed to straighten them out and he said he would make sure next time they would send them in correctly.

Next year they requested text changes on same files.

 :shoots_self:
Title: Re: Opening a PDF with Illustrator - Epic Fail
Post by: born2print on March 30, 2018, 12:38:01 PM
Thank God for Pitstop©
Title: Re: Opening a PDF with Illustrator - Epic Fail
Post by: Possum on April 04, 2018, 01:05:27 PM
Quote from: AaronH on March 26, 2018, 12:57:05 PMI hate it when designers use Photoshop as a design tool. Really, just because they added a text tool, you're going to save yourself some time/money? it's going to take us time to either fix it which will cost much more, or just print it because it crap in - crap out.

Lately I've gotten several Photoshop files for screen printing which have lovely vector type over some crappy JPEG from the internet. Yeah, like that makes it all better.
Title: Re: Opening a PDF with Illustrator - Epic Fail
Post by: born2print on April 04, 2018, 01:26:29 PM
Merde au polishe, si vous plait