Preps 6 vs Metrix

[Joe]

And for perspective, planning used to number dummies, then unfold and hand-draw layouts. Then we would do that work all over again in Preps so you can imaging what a Godsend Upfront was and why we are so fond of it.

We did have a lot of dummies. We called them salesmen though.

[born2print]

Anyhow, I appreciate all of your thoughts.
I just need to get over this hurdle if it is possible.
Can you export from Metrix = yes
can you import into Workshop = yes
can you open the impo and manipulate with Preps and print back into Prinergy???????

[RMPrepress]

We never in a million years would want estimators/planners or CSR's anywhere near any prepress functions!!
Each dept. needs to stay in there in lane except for when collaboration is necessary for the occasional job that is not the norm.

[Joe]

Anyhow, I appreciate all of your thoughts.
I just need to get over this hurdle if it is possible.
Can you export from Metrix = yes
can you import into Workshop = yes
can you open the impo and manipulate with Preps and print back into Prinergy???????

Once you import into Prinergy how are you trying to open the impo and manipulate with Preps? By opening it from within Preps? Or opening it via Prinergy into Preps. It seems to me the latter option should work but I have no experience in doing it. Just a guess from a former Prinergy prepress person. I probably shouldn't even try to get in these discussions anymore.

[born2print]

Open via Prinergy into Preps.
And I agree it should work lol
And it does open, there's just no content at this point of our testing.

[born2print]

ugh so why is the layout empty?

[born2print]

There's pages
There's a signature
Why no layout? aka press run

[David]

Forgive any ignorance on my part as well, we are watching a few videos instead of paying $$$ for actual Metrix training.

I hope that works out, it's a pretty complex bit o' software.

If I remember correctly, we had them come to the plant and train a bunch of planners (they were CSRs who had a background in manually making press layouts). When they learned this, they life was wayyy simpler and less prone to layout mistakes (usually math not adding up correctly).

[David]

ugh so why is the layout empty?

I believe there is a setting in Metrix that you had to do in order to get it to come out right, my mind is fuzzy, but I do remember going thru several windows of BS before it's exported out.

[Joe]

There's pages
There's a signature
Why no layout? aka press run

In the image of your press runs list it shows the name of a template. Is it possible that template isn't existing in Preps. If so you may be missing something in the export of the JDF from Metrix. Who is making the impo in Metrix?

[Joe]

I still think you would be better off without Metrix.

[born2print]

That is what it seems like, I open templates and there is not one for this test job.
I know when you export from UpFront, you tell it .job and .tpl
so maybe we need to look closer at what we're exporting from Metrix... .jdf yeah but what other boxes should be checked!
lol, Who? the planner... aka my wife 

[born2print]

I still think you would be better off without Metrix.

Amen, we love where we're at, but UF is EOL a long time ago so we're on borrowed time

[Joe]

That is what it seems like, I open templates and there is not one for this test job.
I know when you export from UpFront, you tell it .job and .tpl
so maybe we need to look closer at what we're exporting from Metrix... .jdf yeah but what other boxes should be checked!
lol, Who? the planner... aka my wife 

How about in the Prinergy job folder for the template. Nothing there?

Blame everything on the wife. I never had that option! 

[born2print]

ok, gonna kick it around some more (Metrix, not my wife) and I will report back.