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Title: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: elko on August 17, 2017, 03:33:50 AM
Hi

I need to make a preflight. It should warn of any text/text vectors that should have be 100% black but data is CMYK.
There is vectors in the attached example.
Any idea?
Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on August 17, 2017, 07:29:34 AM
I'd just look by eye with separations preview in Acrobat grab the fill with pitstop and do a global change to black or whatever color you want to change it to. That's assuming that you have pitstop.



Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: elko on August 17, 2017, 07:35:23 AM
Yes, I have PitStop. I can change it. I need a pitstop preflight that would check these objects and show me a list of them in a report.
Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: Farabomb on August 17, 2017, 07:53:13 AM
Not sure that would be easy. If it's one color breakdown that is consistent then maybe. If it's varying builds then you're going to have a hard time.
Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on August 17, 2017, 08:05:20 AM
Yes, that black in there is 97.4%, if it's 100 pitstop could pick it out as impure black with unecessary CMY in there.

Not sure how you could lower that threshold in the preflight to say like 97 percent or above.?
Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: Joe on August 17, 2017, 08:13:50 AM
If you create a new preflight profile take a look at these two settings and see if that would work. Haven't tried it but it looks like it might.

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Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: abc on August 17, 2017, 09:12:34 AM
This might be interesting for you.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aq0Ej0OTzYpEh6MVFLQ36GlJjX2Fmw
It's one of the Action Lists that are used in the Ghent Workgroup profiles.
It finds text objects that have a K separation higher than 85%, and a total ink coverage of +280%
With a bit of tweaking and adding LineArt to the party I think this will work for you.
Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: elko on August 17, 2017, 09:26:44 AM
joe: I have an older version, i guess 13. I havent found any check for "rich black".
Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: Joe on August 17, 2017, 09:31:54 AM
If you are referring to my post that is just an Acrobat preflight. Not Pitstop.
Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: abc on August 17, 2017, 09:40:43 AM
Couldn't resist. This works, at least for the test file.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aq0Ej0OTzYpEh6MWGjWzQzIhAkSqMQ

It might be necessary to adjust the the 280% TAC and the 85%K values, but I think this is a very good starting point.
Most of these kind of things are from RGB that get separated to CMYK, so you just need to make sure the values represent the potential ICC profiles.
The GWG did a lot of testing to get to these values, so I think this should pretty much do what you want,
Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on August 17, 2017, 09:52:33 AM
Wow, youse guys is good!! :banana:
Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: mattbeals on August 17, 2017, 10:04:44 AM
Remap color action list where you look for a cmyk range of 50-80c, 30-50m, 30-50y, 75-100k and remap to 100k
Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: elko on August 17, 2017, 10:11:11 AM
abc: Couldnt resist too, but It doesnt work in my case. I dont know whats wrong. I imported the action a tested for the pdf and no reaction..... whats wrong?
Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: elko on August 17, 2017, 10:16:48 AM
I have just found  "Check for Rich Black (K85%, TAC 280%)" in standard action list and this works!! I searched for check for Rich black in preflight and now I can use an action.
Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on August 17, 2017, 10:18:45 AM
Quote from: mattbeals on August 17, 2017, 10:04:44 AMRemap color action list where you look for a cmyk range of 50-80c, 30-50m, 30-50y, 75-100k and remap to 100k


More than one way to skin a cat!!
Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: elko on August 17, 2017, 10:27:01 AM
I added this action to a preflight. It is a pity there is no possibility to fix it in the navigator...
Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: abc on August 17, 2017, 10:50:38 AM
Oops, forgot I did that!
We added that GWG as a standard one.
Just check that it works on text and vectors.
Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: elko on August 17, 2017, 11:10:09 AM
it is interesting.... the standard one works and the GWG action does not.....
abc:  isnt the check for the rich black in preflight profiles in new pitstop?

what does it mean impure CMYK black in preflight profile color menu?.... and what is the diffrence between rich black and impure CMYK black?
Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: abc on August 17, 2017, 11:24:54 AM
The one with GWG in the name only works on text.
In the file text is outlined.
Title: Re: Preflight for CMYK text/text vectors that should be 100% black
Post by: elko on August 17, 2017, 11:37:35 AM
Yes. Youre right. I havent compared them completely.