Digital Press

Started by Joe, February 17, 2011, 12:24:31 AM

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Joe

It appears my company is thinking of getting a digital press. The 3 I've heard mentioned are a Ryobi, Kodak Nexpress, and a DI. No specifics. Which is better and should I:

 a: run for the hills

or

b: embrace it?
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gnubler

Joe, I'm going through the same thing. My boss is somewhat whimsical and had been talking about bringing in another offset press for months, but suddenly we got a new color copier and this week we're doing demos for wide-format inkjet printers.

Printing is DEAD DEAD DEAD. Doomed.
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Quote from: pspdfppdfx on December 06, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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Joe

At my age I'm not sure I'm up to all that learnin' that will be needed. Youston works with a Nexpress and my mind almost explodes every time he talks about it.
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gnubler

Youston makes me explode also, but for different reasons. Are you really against learning new things? Personally, I think you're just ready to move on - I feel the same way and I'm 15 years behind you.

I'm thinking about becoming a locksmith, actually.
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Quote from: pspdfppdfx on December 06, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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Joe

Prepress has gotten really boring because there is not much of a challenge most days. Open a PDF, maybe do a minor fix, close PDF. Repeat 200 times. Blah. :sleepy:
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gnubler

I know what you mean. Most of what I do is opening archived files, making a change, print. Press repeat. The rest is crap Word/Pub files that consume half of my day. Looks like I'm getting back into web dev again.  :death:
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Quote from: pspdfppdfx on December 06, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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Stiv


David

Quote from: Joe on February 17, 2011, 12:24:31 AMIt appears my company is thinking of getting a digital press. The 3 I've heard mentioned are a Ryobi, Kodak Nexpress, and a DI. No specifics. Which is better and should I:

 a: run for the hills

or

b: embrace it?


I would embrace the hills...


and I'm going through the same thing here Joe, doing a lot of research on these digital "copiers", VDP, and all the assorted apps and functions.

in my opinion, you can do good with any of the above, and you can also get screwed with any of the above. You just have to get one, find out what doesn't "work", and then figure a work-around. Kinda like the good ole days of prepress.
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Skryber

Run for the hills.

My new bossman is sending me to Kinkos tomorrow to see how they have the machines set up. He wants to make the storefront like a Kinkos. I miss offset.......so very very much.
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beck

Miss it?

Haven't you only been out of it a month or so?

beck
Nevertheless....beck has hit the proverbial nail on the head.
Joe

youston

Quote from: Joe on February 17, 2011, 01:47:28 AMPrepress has gotten really boring because there is not much of a challenge most days. Open a PDF, maybe do a minor fix, close PDF. Repeat 200 times. Blah. :sleepy:

Your life will not change much with the NexPress. In fact, it will get much more boring. Prepping for the NexPress (as opposed to offset) is almost a joke. It's the running and maintaining of the damned thing that will cause significant hair loss. Oh, and the salespeople who expect you to match color between the NexPress and an offset press. That's pretty annoying.

If you also move into VDP, however, things get a little more ... interesting.

gnubler

Quote from: youston on February 17, 2011, 09:08:48 AMOh, and the salespeople who expect you to match color between the NexPress and an offset press. That's pretty annoying.

I get this all the time and just have to wonder why someone would think I could suddenly match a digital sheet to an offset sheet, even after I've repeated 100 times it's not realistically possible.
Hicks • Cross • Carlin • Kinison • Parker • Stone •  Colbert • Hedberg • Stanhope • Burr

"As much as I'd like your guns I prefer your buns." - The G

Quote from: pspdfppdfx on December 06, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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Skryber

We've been down since October 10th.
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youston

Quote from: gnubler on February 17, 2011, 09:41:47 AM
Quote from: youston on February 17, 2011, 09:08:48 AMOh, and the salespeople who expect you to match color between the NexPress and an offset press. That's pretty annoying.

I get this all the time and just have to wonder why someone would think I could suddenly match a digital sheet to an offset sheet, even after I've repeated 100 times it's not realistically possible.

You're off your game, using this word in reference to salespeople. Is everything okay?

tapdn

Quote from: Joe on February 17, 2011, 01:47:28 AMPrepress has gotten really boring because there is not much of a challenge most days. Open a PDF, maybe do a minor fix, close PDF. Repeat 200 times. Blah. :sleepy:

Exactly why I took early retirement, Joe. Well said. :hello:
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