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Title: Kodak Ink Eater Mark
Post by: johnny_jay on August 04, 2023, 09:45:39 AM
Anyone have any real world experience with this?

We have a project it may help us on and Kodak's help is vague.

Thanks in advance!

John
Title: Re: Kodak Ink Eater Mark
Post by: born2print on August 04, 2023, 10:31:50 AM
we make a bar in Preps, does that help?
Title: Re: Kodak Ink Eater Mark
Post by: David on August 04, 2023, 10:58:14 AM
for sheetfed presses we used what we called "take off" bars.
Generally about 1/4 " tall (could be taller if you have the room), and as wide as the entire printed image on the sheet.
It's just a rectangle filled with color. Fill it with whatever color is used the least to help remove excess ink.
We put these above or below the color bar on the sheet.


YMMV

8)

hope this is what you're talking about
Title: Re: Kodak Ink Eater Mark
Post by: David on August 04, 2023, 11:01:37 AM
also this:

https://workflowhelp.kodak.com/display/PRIN81/Ink+eater+mark
Title: Re: Kodak Ink Eater Mark
Post by: Joe on August 04, 2023, 11:12:04 AM
We just created rectangles out on the ends of the plates. 50% all colors. Width depended on web size. The bigger the web size the smaller the width.
Title: Re: Kodak Ink Eater Mark
Post by: born2print on August 04, 2023, 11:26:54 AM
Quote from: David on August 04, 2023, 10:58:14 AMfor sheetfed presses we used what we called "take off" bars.
Generally about 1/4 " tall (could be taller if you have the room), and as wide as the entire printed image on the sheet.
It's just a rectangle filled with color. Fill it with whatever color is used the least to help remove excess ink.
We put these above or below the color bar on the sheet.


YMMV

8)

hope this is what you're talking about
yeah that. sometimes 1/2" tall. Usually 100% of the color.
Title: Re: Kodak Ink Eater Mark
Post by: johnny_jay on August 04, 2023, 11:33:40 AM
We normally add take off bars of various sizes when needed but we have a cover that runs weekly that is being problematic, wanted to try the Ink Eater. It is supposed to evaluate on coverage  and I wanted to see if it would help.
Title: Re: Kodak Ink Eater Mark
Post by: born2print on August 04, 2023, 12:22:30 PM
OH! I never thought of an automated way, good luck and please report back if you have any luck #interesting
Title: Re: Kodak Ink Eater Mark
Post by: johnny_jay on August 08, 2023, 09:45:55 AM
I will report back, swamped for a spell so not sure how long.

The kodak "help" says to place the variable on a pdf mark and place taht in preps - seems odd but I'll give it a go.

Thanks everyone for your time! I lurk way more than I post, lol.
Title: Re: Kodak Ink Eater Mark
Post by: DigiCorn on August 08, 2023, 11:24:04 PM
Is the Kodak user forum still around? I forget what it was called, but maybe some user hanging around can help out...
Title: Re: Kodak Ink Eater Mark
Post by: scottrsimons on August 09, 2023, 06:06:59 AM
Kodak forum is still around and it's called the GUA forums. https://mygua.vbulletin.net/index.php (https://mygua.vbulletin.net/index.php)
Title: Re: Kodak Ink Eater Mark
Post by: johnny_jay on August 09, 2023, 09:23:09 AM
Great Point DigiCorn and Scott, I am a member there as well. 

Thanks!

John
Title: Re: Kodak Ink Eater Mark
Post by: DigiCorn on August 09, 2023, 11:33:41 PM
GUA - that's the one! I haven't been on there since 2016...
Title: Re: Kodak Ink Eater Mark
Post by: Joe on August 10, 2023, 06:18:04 AM
Quote from: DigiCorn on August 09, 2023, 11:33:41 PMGUA - that's the one! I haven't been on there since 2016...
You probably haven't missed many posts. ;D
Title: Re: Kodak Ink Eater Mark
Post by: johnny_jay on August 16, 2023, 02:46:12 PM
Had time to get the mark to work as I wanted. What threw me off was my own fault, needed to read the info better. I was working the start and end points off the sheet but it's off the plate.

Going to try it on the job that has been giving fits.Will adjust the min density and max saturation as needed.

I never did try the GUA, rather hang with the cool kids here.

Thanks!

John