100% K to 4c K

Farabomb · January 28, 2016, 10:09:54 AM

This is a first for me. I was supplied files from someone that thinks they know what they are doing... circa 1999. I received a CD that I had to find a computer with a working drive to get the files off. There were PDFs and EPSs, I used the PDF.

It has mostly 100% k type with some 4c grey drop shadows, remember 1999. I run it through EVO and it turns all the 100% k to 4c for some unknown reason. I know I have it set to convert 4c K to 100% k but I've never seen this.

It's not a big deal as since it's one big picture complete with pixelated fonts nothing is trapping so I'll just use the original file. I can't select anything in pitstop as it's one element.

Joe · January 28, 2016, 10:25:07 AM

ICC profile applied to the text?

David · January 28, 2016, 10:39:21 AM

Quote from: Farabomb on January 28, 2016, 10:09:54 AMThis is a first for me. I was supplied files from someone that thinks they know what they are doing... circa 1999. I received a CD that I had to find a computer with a working drive to get the files off. There were PDFs and EPSs, I used the PDF.

It has mostly 100% k type with some 4c grey drop shadows, remember 1999. I run it through EVO and it turns all the 100% k to 4c for some unknown reason. I know I have it set to convert 4c K to 100% k but I've never seen this.

It's not a big deal as since it's one big picture complete with pixelated fonts nothing is trapping so I'll just use the original file. I can't select anything in pitstop as it's one element.

sounds like you have a pdf made from photoshop. If you go into wireframe, do you see any fonts or is it just one big X (as in an image)?

Farabomb · January 28, 2016, 10:59:06 AM

One big 'ol X. I have a feeling it was done in PS and then exported as an EPS and a PDF.

The image does have an ICC, SWOP v2.

David · January 28, 2016, 11:25:52 AM

that'll do it right there.

See if you can remove the profile, then RIP it again to see if that fixes it.

Ear · January 28, 2016, 11:41:55 AM

Use PitStop to certify it and it should tell you everything, down to which program created it. Just have to generate a report.

mattbeals · January 28, 2016, 02:37:31 PM

Quote from: Ear on January 28, 2016, 11:41:55 AMUse PitStop to certify it and it should tell you everything, down to which program created it. Just have to generate a report.

Document properties will tell you much of this.

You can always convert to LAB or RGB and convert back to CMYK using perceptual in a pinch. It relies on your destination profile's black plate settings. But it works well most of the time.

Farabomb · January 28, 2016, 02:41:19 PM

David is the winner. Strip out the ICC profile and prinergy will leave the text alone.

What I don't understand is that I have it set to strip out any ICC profiles but maybe it converts to the intent of the profile, then strips it.

David · January 28, 2016, 03:04:26 PM

I believe it ignores it more than "strips it out", but it is still there doing damage.

Ear · January 28, 2016, 03:49:56 PM

Quote from: mattbeals on January 28, 2016, 02:37:31 PM
Quote from: Ear on January 28, 2016, 11:41:55 AMUse PitStop to certify it and it should tell you everything, down to which program created it. Just have to generate a report.

Document properties will tell you much of this.

This is true, but sending a Certified Enfocus Preflight Report to a snotty designer usually shuts them up quicker.

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