bye bye Epson S70670.
It's basically official - it's going away. We spoke to some other shops using it, and everyone has issues and one other shop is sending theirs back too. Support tried to help, but since no one knew anything (except Rob Simpson), support was useless.
Looking at getting a Mutoh or Mimaki possibly. I'd like to hear what you have, and your experiences (pros and cons).
Also, what's driving it? We have EFI Colorproof XF and I think we have to send Onyx back with the proofer, but I didn't like Onyx anyway. Are you using GMG? Oris? other? and why?
must be a real dud if it's just going away!
I've used FlexiSign and liked it, very feature rich and has a pretty cool design interface. Best upscaling of low res crap I ever saw, and very powerful type tools.
Quote from: t-pat on July 02, 2013, 10:38:57 AMmust be a real dud if it's just going away!
I've used FlexiSign and liked it, very feature rich and has a pretty cool design interface. Best upscaling of low res crap I ever saw, and very powerful type tools.
Making calls to find out the cost and support on XF, but not opposed to using something new if it's not cost prohibitive. I forgot about FlexiSign. I remember it looked a lot like Inspire. What devices (size) were you driving?
Quote from: DigiCorn on July 02, 2013, 10:49:16 AMQuote from: t-pat on July 02, 2013, 10:38:57 AMmust be a real dud if it's just going away!
I've used FlexiSign and liked it, very feature rich and has a pretty cool design interface. Best upscaling of low res crap I ever saw, and very powerful type tools.
Making calls to find out the cost and support on XF, but not opposed to using something new if it's not cost prohibitive. I forgot about FlexiSign. I remember it looked a lot like Inspire. What devices (size) were you driving?
50" Encad, 72" Encad. Some shit like that, it was old crap that liked to break down and waste my time, 10 years ago, and I was drunk most days. Only thing good about the setup was the uh, "demo" version of Flexi.
I think we have an old Encad with tons of roll media if anyone's interested.
Quote from: gnubler on July 02, 2013, 06:26:42 PMI think we have an old Encad with tons of roll media if anyone's interested.
I could be interested...
Is it's output "reasonable" on coated stock?
{poker face}
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does it work and/or come with free shipping?
also, for anyone upgrading to Fiery XF, this is important:
Quote from: DigiCorn on July 08, 2013, 09:52:11 AMdoes it work and/or come with free shipping?
Here's what I got so far...
QuoteEncad 880
Can print on rigid stock, 8*4. Has a wide variety of stock from film to canvas.
Has inkwells that can be filled on the fly for uninterrupted printing.
We've moved a bunch of unused equip into an empty room. I can tell you for a fact there's a shit-ton of media because I've moved it all, roll by roll. Lots of it is new in Kodak boxes. There are 2 Encads, I will have to check the model of the 2nd one. If anyone has more interest I can take pics this week. You will have to speak with the owner about cost & shipping. Located in Northern New Mexico.
You didn't fully answer my question - does it work?
Work schmerk. :whip:
I was told they both work. Other than acquiring a Roland a few years ago, I don't know the reason they were put into storage. I'll find out. If you're still interested I'll power them up and fully test.
I'm gonna run it by the boss. He always gets free shit... and then puts it in the center of the room, where it sits for months until he tells me to put it on ebay or craig's list.
you'll be sorry.
I could tell you a long sad story of 2 encads that arrived on my shop floor for "free" - they actually belonged to a friend and customer. "Free" meant that I had to repair and maintain these shitpiles he bought on fleabay. I spent a lot of time washing rainbows off my hands and wasting expensive media.
Quote from: DigiCorn on July 10, 2013, 08:54:30 AMI'm gonna run it by the boss. He always gets free shit... and then puts it in the center of the room, where it sits for months until he tells me to put it on ebay or craig's list.
I don't think I ever stated it was free. It might be eventually once my boss realizes dinosaur equipment is pretty much worthless, but I presume some sort of cash sale is desired. My prediction is all this stuff will end up at the dump someday.
We'll probably have better luck using a broker to sell old crap to Mexico or India. That's where a beloved Docucolor 250 ended up a couple years ago.
Quote from: t-pat on July 10, 2013, 09:23:35 AMyou'll be sorry.
I could tell you a long sad story of 2 encads that arrived on my shop floor for "free" - they actually belonged to a friend and customer. "Free" meant that I had to repair and maintain these shitpiles he bought on fleabay. I spent a lot of time washing rainbows off my hands and wasting expensive media.
Ya, reminds me of my ex who acquired "free" kitchen appliances, where they sat in a spare bedroom untouched for months until I finally re-craigslisted them. There may be the rare jackpot find, but for the most part old equipment is just shit.
Quote from: gnubler on July 10, 2013, 08:03:31 PMThere may be the rare jackpot find, but for the most part old equipment is just shit.
I hit the Craigslist "jackpot" a few times ... Most notably the Epson 5000, which came with $200 worth of paper,, ... Cost me $50.
I'd be interested in any wide format proofer, but it's entirely for personal use, so if anyone wants it for work, let them have it. :-)
Quote from: gnubler on July 10, 2013, 08:00:50 PMQuote from: DigiCorn on July 10, 2013, 08:54:30 AMI'm gonna run it by the boss. He always gets free shit... and then puts it in the center of the room, where it sits for months until he tells me to put it on ebay or craig's list.
I don't think I ever stated it was free. It might be eventually once my boss realizes dinosaur equipment is pretty much worthless, but I presume some sort of cash sale is desired. My prediction is all this stuff will end up at the dump someday.
We'll probably have better luck using a broker to sell old crap to Mexico or India. That's where a beloved Docucolor 250 ended up a couple years ago.
Yes, do that. Absolutely.
Except, I did that once with my old Crosfield image setter, and wound up having to go down to Guatemala City to try to make it work after it had a nice bumpy hot trip down in a shitty truck. It barely worked when it left, it really was dead as shit when it got there. I got a free trip out of the deal though.
Skry, join the conversation: What wide format do you use?
Did the Mimaki demo yesterday and was seriously underwhelmed. Not impressed at all, especially when it came to print speed.
Quote from: DigiCorn on August 09, 2013, 11:08:02 AMSkry, join the conversation: What wide format do you use?
Did the Mimaki demo yesterday and was seriously underwhelmed. Not impressed at all, especially when it came to print speed.
Skry? Hello?
Sorry, sorry. "Proofers" threw me off. I didn't even go to this thread. I'm training a new guy today so I haven't had a chance to get on here. We used an Epson Stylus Pro 9880 for color proofs at the old shop with Rampage Shooter. Before that was a Fuji Film Luxel Final Proofer 5600 with Laminator: Color Art 680tIII also Rampage Shooter. That one we sold it to G-Town's peeps in Meheeco. The Epson blew up in an explosion.
For just wide format printing, not proofs, we use/used a Mutoh ValueJet 1604 with Onyx 7. As you know, there are transparency issues which the new versions are supposed to eliminate but I haven't used it yet. I've gotten used to it. It's transparency within PDFs it doesn't like. EPS are okay. Although, if you are using CS5 or later, Onyx 7 doesn't like EPS strokes. So if you have both out of CS5, you have to flatten it. :cry:
Does this help?
I'll go though this later. Busy.