Many thanks to Frailer for this link
http://font.is/?p=38Font Explorer tutorial (http://font.is/?p=38Font%20Explorer%20tutorial)
quote: "I am not saying that FEX is better than Suitcase Fusion or Font Agent but I have used it with 20 other designers for many months and it is save to say that FEX is a very good tool."
Are y'all using this? We're still using Suitcase Fusion and it's "ok"...
I'm no font expert, [believe me], just an enthusiastic newbie. Mainly because I "struggled" on my Mac in the early days, with fonts. I "sleep around", when it comes to font managers. Had a quirky font in a Quark job about 6 months ago. Was using Fusion because it's s'posed to be kinder with Fusion than FEX. However, Fusion would NOT Import/Add Temporarily this font. tried FEX...sweet as!
My point is, have FEX there and on hand, or use it as your main manager. Doesn't matter. Just don't have 'em both open at once. Ignore them pointing the finger at each other when you fire up Quack or Indy. Just say "No, I don't want to flick the other one".
FEX has a toolbox full of font maintenance utilities. They have pretty good tech support. Also a users' forum. I'll post the link here if you want.
...Oh, and it's free... :D
Damn, forgot to add. Saw a post elsewhere where a guy was claiming that Adobe engineers have recently named FEX as preferred font manager. May only be forum scuttlebutt, but could be verified, I guess. This guy is pretty cluey, as beer will testify... ;D
man, I tell you,
I've been a loyal Suitcase user for years now, but, just recently, say like in the last month, I've been having soooo much trouble with Suitcase that I'm actually looking for alternative now.
Sometimes fonts will load on one Mac but not another, sometimes they're corrupted, sometimes not.
Doesn't matter what version of Suitcase, or what Mac. I've un-installed and re-installed, updated and un-updated, don't matter.
pisses me off.
I guess it keeps me busy, like I need more to do...
:(
yeah i know the fella frailer is on about and that chap is pretty dammmm clued up - am on a ninja mission when i get a chance to transport him over to us here
i've no issues with suitcase really, but quack 7 and fonts is getting cranky
I used Suitcase way back when in OS7.6.1. I didn't like the way it worked in OS8.5 so I jumped ship to MasterJuggler and use that even today for Classic. Before Font Explorer I managed fonts manually using my user font folder and that worked without any issues. When FE first came out in beta I downloaded and installed it and to my amazement it was just what I'd been looking for. For a free application IMO you can't beat it. It's like iTunes for fonts.
Quote from: david on October 19, 2007, 06:38:18 AMI've been a loyal Suitcase user for years now, but, just recently, say like in the last month, I've been having soooo much trouble with Suitcase that I'm actually looking for alternative now.
Yeh, ditto here David, really good stuff frailer, thanks..
ps: Almaink, Master juggler sounds better than when we tried (and hated) FontJuggler years ago, may give it a look as well.
I'll tell you what. FONTS SUCK PERIOD!!!
I've got FAP and FEX and sometimes still have to resort to the Users:Library:Fonts folder and I've still got fonts that don't work in any of the three. I love my PDF's! :-*
I've been using Font Explorer for well over a year and love it. It just works for me,
and it has a bunch of features that can come in pretty handy. I've never tried the
PC version.
I'm not always hands on on the Mac here, but had to be this week. Garbage/late job, printing on the W/end...have been used to using Temp Activ'n in Fusion with Quack jobs from HOffice. Today, again Fusion wouldnt load a font. Closed and fired up FEX...no worries. haven't used 1.2.2 much since the update, but it's lost a lot of the earlier fussiness. happy to do partial activations when only those parts of a font supplied. Dunno, just seems to working better than ever. Anyone else noticing this?
Font Explorer - very good with Indesign not so hot with Quark (bear in mind we use v6.52). Some fonts just will not activate and we resort to using Fontbook!
Plus Quark keeps giving out that spurious corrupt font or damaged font substitution message just as you're ready to PDF.
I do have to say that, for us QXP is a dead fish.
that font warning os probably spurious as you mention. You should be able to download 'Font Alert Silencer XT' from Quark, but I thought it came with 6.5.2
Quote from: EyeTech on November 16, 2007, 10:57:20 AMFont Explorer - very good with Indesign not so hot with Quark (bear in mind we use v6.52). Some fonts just will not activate and we resort to using Fontbook!
Plus Quark keeps giving out that spurious corrupt font or damaged font substitution message just as you're ready to PDF.
I do have to say that, for us QXP is a dead fish.
You need the Quack6 font reset applescript. Disregard that warning 99% of the time it's false.
But your right Quack is a dead fish IMO too.
http://scriptbuilders.net/files/quark6fontreset2.0.html
Everybody got their 1.2.3 update? Come on, 1,2,3..hop to it!
:woohoo:
Seems most of the bug fixes are for you Leopard users. Still, updated anyway.
ive been using font explorer all day seems to work better than suitcase
Oh yeah!
Now just gimme the Windows version and I'll be happy. ATM Deluxe isn't going to work forever.
yeah i hope they come out with the windows version soon!
...and don't forget the cache cleaners and other stuff under the "Tools" menu. They work! :smiley:
Font Explorer is no longer free :cry:
http://www.fontexplorerx.com/ (http://www.fontexplorerx.com/)
BUT, you can still DL the free version. Yeah, it was bound to happen. It is superior in too many ways to stay free. Oh well. :cry:
It is a very good product and they deserve to get paid for their superiority over the competition. I'm just glad I got my free stuff first :wink:
Still no Windows version. I guess we'll just use Suitcase indefinitely here at work. At home, I guess I'll be using the free FontXplorer indefinitely... :laugh:
Think I may fork out the 39Euros. Cheap for that calibre of software. :undecided:
I bang on about FEX so much, I had to get Pro before it goes to normal price on March 1.
hotmetal will like this. Now has a kerning preview pane. See screenshot. :cheesy:
Plus the interface is altogether more "pro".
We're happy with Suitcase here but I'll put it on another machine here and give it a go. Seems like a good program.
Hmmm..the reason I jumped to FEX was that I was having huge problems with Suitcase. Coulda been partly me at the time, novice'n'all, but...
Haven't looked back since FEX. At AU$67 until Feb 28, it's gonna cost you about US$40, off the top of my head. For now-supported software of this calibre, an opportunity to ease your work stress, IMO.
As stated in previous posts, I've had FEX activate recalcitrant fonts, even partial sets, where Fusion wouldn't so much as glance at them. Just sayin'....
I wish linotype would get their stuff together and release the PC version. Does anyone out there still have a copy of the PC beta installer? how about a recommendation for a font manager for the PC? Im already using Adobe ATM deluxe, and it does the job. Im thinking there may be something better though.
Maybe some revenue from paid version may help. Suspect it's still in the Too Hard Basket at the moment, though. :undecided:
Quote from: delooch on February 23, 2009, 04:24:35 PMI wish linotype would get their stuff together and release the PC version. Does anyone out there still have a copy of the PC beta installer? how about a recommendation for a font manager for the PC? Im already using Adobe ATM deluxe, and it does the job. Im thinking there may be something better though.
Here is the last released version for the PC (I think). It seemed to work fine on XP but I had problems with it when trying it on Vista.
https://www.b4print.com/downloads/FontExplorerX-0.9.1.2250.exe
Thanks Joe!
Looks like Lino pulled the beta last June, I was hoping they would release a final before their current offer is gone. That doesnt look like its going to happen.
Im trying Font Explorer for PC today, looks different than the mac version. :smiley:
It looks like a previewer only, can anyone give me the link to the pc version of fontexplorer?
oops just saw joes link
Joe - THANK YOU! I had given up on FEX for Windows. I just installed it. We run an older version of Suitcase here, but I prefer FEX. You get beer! (http://www.freefever.com/animatedgifs/animated/beer2.gif)
WOW! Beer for breakfast. What a treat. :laugh:
Be aware that was the last public beta released some time ago.
I'll formally test it out today and let you know how it goes on XP.
works great, you have to allow the programs to see it.
if you have any probs, post :smiley:
I couldn't get Joe's link for the PC version to work (404 file not found), but here is an external link to it:
http://fex.linotype.com/download/pc/FontExplorerX-0.9.1.2250.exe
(http://fex.linotype.com/download/pc/FontExplorerX-0.9.1.2250.exe)
I have seen others comment on it unfavorably, i.e. "deletes fonts from original location when they are added."
Any comments on that, or does the .exe contain a good read-me file that explains everything, including the shortcomings?
Quote from: Captain_Type on April 22, 2009, 08:03:27 AMI couldn't get Joe's link for the PC version to work (404 file not found), but here is an external link to it:
http://fex.linotype.com/download/pc/FontExplorerX-0.9.1.2250.exe
(http://fex.linotype.com/download/pc/FontExplorerX-0.9.1.2250.exe)
I have seen others comment on it unfavorably, i.e. "deletes fonts from original location when they are added."
Any comments on that, or does the .exe contain a good read-me file that explains everything, including the shortcomings?
You should have the option to either have it copy files (leave the originals) or move the files (delete the originals). I never had a problem with that when I tried it but like I said earlier I could not get it to work properly under Vista.
crap. finally get my hands on this and upon startup i get htis error:
Zugriffsverletzung bei Adresse 007FD8A3 in Modul 'FEX.exe'. Lesen von Adresse 00000000
way to go, linotype!
I think you mighta forgot to click on the "English" button. :laugh:
yeah, thats what it says on the english install!
checked a few forums, all the same. the only thing i found so far was on a linotype forum stating you need to change your windows username if it has special characters. I cant do that because im on a managed workstation..
oh well, back to ATM..
I installed it on XP and didn't see weirdness. I haven't loaded any fonts into it yet because I have tons of sets in Suitcase (for client jobs) and haven't had time. I'll diddle with it tomorrow.
Ok, off I go to make my 5,000th post.
Quote from: gnubler on April 22, 2009, 04:25:34 PMI installed it on XP and didn't see weirdness. I haven't loaded any fonts into it yet because I have tons of sets in Suitcase (for client jobs) and haven't had time. I'll diddle with it tomorrow.
Ok, off I go to make my 5,000th post.
Please let me know how that works out for you. You're not the ONLY windoze sufferer here. Well, I'm 83.7774% of one (just a vague guess).
hmm.. works fine at home. of course it wont work on the pc i need it on.
K, I'm diddling with FEX on Windows XP right now. So far, so good. Except for the auto activate plugins - getting an error (see screenshot). I'm going to use FEX instead of Suitcase for the next few days and see how it goes.
Quote from: gnubler on May 05, 2009, 04:08:26 PMK, I'm diddling with FEX on Windows XP right now. So far, so good. Except for the auto activate plugins - getting an error (see screenshot). I'm going to use FEX instead of Suitcase for the next few days and see how it goes.
Do you have Illy and ID CS or CS2? It appears that FEX thinks you have Illy CS and CS2 and ID CS2 but not ID CS but the path to Illy CS is obviously wrong.
I have CS. When I click the "Install" button for Indy or Illy CS, I get the error and it won't install.
Here's something else. We all share font files from a main server (only have basic fonts in Windows system folder). Every time I import a font from the server I'm getting this popup message and I'm not seeing a way to turn it off in Prefs. I just keep clicking "No" because I don't want the server fonts copied over to my local HD.
Quote from: Joe on May 05, 2009, 04:32:25 PMQuote from: gnubler on May 05, 2009, 04:08:26 PMK, I'm diddling with FEX on Windows XP right now. So far, so good. Except for the auto activate plugins - getting an error (see screenshot). I'm going to use FEX instead of Suitcase for the next few days and see how it goes.
Do you have Illy and ID CS or CS2? It appears that FEX thinks you have Illy CS and CS2 and ID CS2 but not ID CS but the path to Illy CS is obviously wrong.
Something is screwy because now the plugin files for CS that were in the Linotype/Plugins folder are no longer there, nor are they in the appropriate Adobe folders. They appear to have vanished after I attempted to install them in FEX. Windows sucks.
Quote from: gnubler on May 05, 2009, 04:45:48 PMI have CS. When I click the "Install" button for Indy or Illy CS, I get the error and it won't install.
The only entry in that screen shot for Indy is Indy CS2 and it says it is not found. The path for Illy is not correct as it says it is located in C:\Program Files\Linotype Font Explorer X\Plugins\. I think you'll need to get those entries corrected before they will install.
I would also highly recommend letting FEX copy the fonts from the server to your local drive. You'll have nothing but trouble if you try to use them from the server. In fact on my FEX for Mac you are not even given the option.
Quote from: gnubler on May 05, 2009, 05:03:55 PMQuote from: Joe on May 05, 2009, 04:32:25 PMQuote from: gnubler on May 05, 2009, 04:08:26 PMK, I'm diddling with FEX on Windows XP right now. So far, so good. Except for the auto activate plugins - getting an error (see screenshot). I'm going to use FEX instead of Suitcase for the next few days and see how it goes.
Do you have Illy and ID CS or CS2? It appears that FEX thinks you have Illy CS and CS2 and ID CS2 but not ID CS but the path to Illy CS is obviously wrong.
Something is screwy because now the plugin files for CS that were in the Linotype/Plugins folder are no longer there, nor are they in the appropriate Adobe folders. They appear to have vanished after I attempted to install them in FEX. Windows sucks.
The plugin path that you see in the plugin manager is the path to application plugin folder like Indy or Illy. If you do have an entry for Indy CS double click the path line and then navigate to your Indy Plugins folder so FEX knows where to put the plugin.
Quote from: Joe on May 05, 2009, 05:07:32 PMQuote from: gnubler on May 05, 2009, 04:45:48 PMI have CS. When I click the "Install" button for Indy or Illy CS, I get the error and it won't install.
I would also highly recommend letting FEX copy the fonts from the server to your local drive. You'll have nothing but trouble if you try to use them from the server. In fact on my FEX for Mac you are not even given the option.
I understand that and it struck me as odd when I first started working here because I've always installed fonts locally. Everyone in my department runs fonts off the server - we all use Suitcase. Never really have any font issues at all.
Quote from: Joe on May 05, 2009, 05:07:32 PMQuote from: gnubler on May 05, 2009, 04:45:48 PMI have CS. When I click the "Install" button for Indy or Illy CS, I get the error and it won't install.
The only entry in that screen shot for Indy is Indy CS2 and it says it is not found. The path for Illy is not correct as it says it is located in C:\Program Files\Linotype Font Explorer X\Plugins\. I think you'll need to get those entries corrected before they will install.
Before I started trying to manage/install the plugins both Indy and Illy CS were in my Plugin Manager (you can see Illy CS in my ss above). Now neither one is listed there and the actual plugin file is nowhere to be found (they were in the Linotype/Plugin folder). Oh well. Not that big of a deal.
Quote from: gnubler on May 05, 2009, 05:15:49 PMQuote from: Joe on May 05, 2009, 05:07:32 PMQuote from: gnubler on May 05, 2009, 04:45:48 PMI have CS. When I click the "Install" button for Indy or Illy CS, I get the error and it won't install.
I would also highly recommend letting FEX copy the fonts from the server to your local drive. You'll have nothing but trouble if you try to use them from the server. In fact on my FEX for Mac you are not even given the option.
I understand that and it struck me as odd when I first started working here because I've always installed fonts locally. Everyone in my department runs fonts off the server - we all use Suitcase. Never really have any font issues at all.
What happens if you try to activate a font and the network share is not available? The Macs don't like it I can tell you that. I've threatened to bitch slap coworkers that try to activate fonts from the server. (We had Mac Suitcase users until recently when I switched them all to FEX. They can't open them from the server now! :evil: )
Quote from: gnubler on May 05, 2009, 05:19:56 PMQuote from: Joe on May 05, 2009, 05:07:32 PMQuote from: gnubler on May 05, 2009, 04:45:48 PMI have CS. When I click the "Install" button for Indy or Illy CS, I get the error and it won't install.
The only entry in that screen shot for Indy is Indy CS2 and it says it is not found. The path for Illy is not correct as it says it is located in C:\Program Files\Linotype Font Explorer X\Plugins\. I think you'll need to get those entries corrected before they will install.
Before I started trying to manage/install the plugins both Indy and Illy CS were in my Plugin Manager (you can see Illy CS in my ss above). Now neither one is listed there and the actual plugin file is nowhere to be found (they were in the Linotype/Plugin folder). Oh well. Not that big of a deal.
I think at this point I would uninstall it and re-install it. You should get everything back in the plugin list this way.
Quote from: Joe on May 05, 2009, 05:20:41 PMWhat happens if you try to activate a font and the network share is not available?
"It's never happened." :laugh: Seriously, all our fonts are on the server and we don't have font issues.
This might fall under the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" umbrella. :laugh:
When I delete a set and contained fonts why do I still have that font in the library?
i just saw at the beginning of this thread there is a tutorial, ill have to check it out.
As of today I've abandoned trying to use FEX on Windows XP. Too much of a pain. Auto activation doesn't work and it's also not letting me select a different directory to manage fonts in. Works great on my Mac, but I think I'll just stick with Suitcase on XP.
I gave up on it as well under Vista. That's why they call it beta software though. User beware. :wink:
The Pro Version has just received an update to work with snow leopard. Quite a few fixes, but check the known issues
http://www.fontexplorerx.com/macreleasenotes/
Am I missing something, or is the free version no longer available? :undecided:
Linotype Home Page (http://www.fontexplorerx.com/home/)
Pro version is $AU120. Not a lot for a very good font manager, but, it's marketing strategy, I guess. At some stage they have to support the support/improvements. I'd be happy for someone to point out I'm missing something obvious, though.
Quote from: frailer on February 11, 2010, 05:09:05 PMAm I missing something, or is the free version no longer available? :undecided:
Linotype Home Page (http://www.fontexplorerx.com/home/)
Pro version is $AU120. Not a lot for a very good font manager, but, it's marketing strategy, I guess. At some stage they have to support the support/improvements. I'd be happy for someone to point out I'm missing something obvious, though.
You knew that was going to happen eventually, right? :wink:
Well, yeah. Just needed a second pair of eyes run over it... :rolleyes:
Im still running my free version I suppose i will have to pay when something goes wonky.
Quote from: Tracy on February 11, 2010, 09:33:26 PMIm still running my free version I suppose i will have to pay when something goes wonky.
Probably. But you should have quite a bit of mileage yet. I only got Pro because when they launched it they had a half price intro.
Right at the bottom of the FAQ page it says it's still available
http://www.fontexplorerx.com/158/
can't seem to find it though
UPDATE:
Still on Version Tracker here
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/27903
Think I still have the installer if anyone really needs it.
Quote from: jezza on February 11, 2010, 11:03:23 PMRight at the bottom of the FAQ page it says it's still available
http://www.fontexplorerx.com/158/
can't seem to find it though
UPDATE:
Still on Version Tracker here
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/27903
Yep, the FEX lead's a dead end, jez. Version Tracker looks good though. Good old VT.
I just snagged it myself. Still on Version Tracker.
cool, you'll really like it, especially if you're working with Quark files.
:cool:
Here at work I've got macs with the old free version of Font Explorer and others with Suitcase Fusion, all older macs. I now have a new Mac Pro which replaced a G4 with the free font explorer on it. I doubt I'd get a discounted upgrade with that version? I have read there are some issue with Fusion with the mac pros so I'm leaning towards Explorer in which I like anyway and is cheaper. If you had a choice which one would you choose?
Linotype Font Explorer by a mile...and the free one still works fine for me.
same here, I use it exclusively, don't matter which Mac either (Intel, Power PC, etc).
Oh, and FREE all the way!
We bought Fusion, but had too many issues and abandoned it in favor of FEX (free version) on regular Leopard 10.5.8 here. Fusion Pro does not play nicely with Suitcase Fusion, but no issues with FEX.
Ironically, the 'q' doesn't play nice with FEX, so I have to quit out and launch SF for use exclusively with the 'q.' Lucky for me it doesn't happen that often; just 3 times this year.
FEX hands down. Free version here.
Yes, it does have issues with q but you can get it to work with a little hand holding.
I'm thinking I can not migrate Explorer from the G4 to the Power mac. Can you still download the free version?
Quote from: jimking on December 20, 2011, 12:06:34 PMI'm thinking I can not migrate Explorer from the G4 to the Power mac. Can you still download the free version?
You can copy it from one to the other as long as you copy everything...prefs. font db, fonts etc...
But I have the installer if you need/want it.
Quote from: jimking on December 20, 2011, 12:06:34 PMI'm thinking I can not migrate Explorer from the G4 to the Power mac. Can you still download the free version?
I posted it here --> http://www.sendspace.com/file/5z97z6 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/5z97z6)
Quote from: Joe on December 20, 2011, 12:24:06 PMQuote from: jimking on December 20, 2011, 12:06:34 PMI'm thinking I can not migrate Explorer from the G4 to the Power mac. Can you still download the free version?
You can copy it from one to the other as long as you copy everything...prefs. font db, fonts etc...
But I have the installer if you need/want it.
As do I, I keep all my installers so I can replace or install anytime I need.
As Martha would say ... "it's a good thing"...
Thanks all! Thanks for the download Digi. I got it up and rolling. :grin:
Quote from: david on December 20, 2011, 12:24:06 PMQuote from: Joe on December 20, 2011, 12:06:34 PMBut I have the installer if you need/want it.
As do I, I keep all my installers so I can replace or install anytime I need.
As Martha would say ... "it's a good thing"...
I think we all do that... don't we?
Quote from: jimking on December 20, 2011, 01:54:20 PMThanks all! Thanks for the download Digi. I got it up and rolling. :grin:
No problemo
Quote from: DigiCorn on December 20, 2011, 02:11:08 PMQuote from: david on December 20, 2011, 12:24:06 PMQuote from: Joe on December 20, 2011, 12:06:34 PMBut I have the installer if you need/want it.
As do I, I keep all my installers so I can replace or install anytime I need.
As Martha would say ... "it's a good thing"...
I think we all do that... don't we?
and we keep them next to our computer backups... :ninja:
Well, yeah, I'd love to open and use FEX, right now. GRRRRR.....> :sad:
Sing 'No Reply'_Beatles-loud voice (http://www.fontexplorerx-board.com/viewtopic.php?p=5817#5817)
Our in house dezinger has decided that he needs to manually put in every job he works on some of our "base fonts" - a set we've decided should pretty much be always loaded. Not "system fonts". We then put the job fonts in a "temporary" set while working on the job.
If I work on a job he's done his little OCD thing with then remove the fonts from "temporary" it also removes these fonts from "base fonts" set and pisses me off to no end. Since I can't seem to communicate with him that his stupid solution to whatever imagined problem he was having is no solution, does anyone know how to protect these "base fonts" from being removed?
I don't care if they get deactivated, just very sick of dragging them back into fex every time I work on a job he's messed with.
Quote from: t-pat on June 06, 2012, 02:09:25 PMOur in house dezinger has decided that he needs to manually put in every job he works on some of our "base fonts" - a set we've decided should pretty much be always loaded. Not "system fonts". We then put the job fonts in a "temporary" set while working on the job.
If I work on a job he's done his little OCD thing with then remove the fonts from "temporary" it also removes these fonts from "base fonts" set and pisses me off to no end. Since I can't seem to communicate with him that his stupid solution to whatever imagined problem he was having is no solution, does anyone know how to protect these "base fonts" from being removed?
I don't care if they get deactivated, just very sick of dragging them back into fex every time I work on a job he's messed with.
Kill him.
I have our base fonts as a set named "start up" and are always on, so they are left alone and any other fonts are added as a "temp". All of my guys have been trained to not jack with the stuff I set up.
I tend to get angry.
Quote from: david on June 06, 2012, 03:12:58 PMI have our base fonts as a set named "start up" and are always on, so they are left alone and any other fonts are added as a "temp". All of my guys have been trained to not jack with the stuff I set up.
I tend to get angry.
Sounds like me and my Acrobat toolbar. Fur flies if anyone changes it.
if I ran the dept. it would be a rule that would be enforced. The person who does run the department doesn't enforce any rules that are not a direct annoyance to him.
you bet, oh, could you hurry with those plates.
Cleaning up my fonts.
I have some fonts I always leave in there
but the job specific fonts I remove when done
but a lot of those fonts are still in the library,
most of the file path shows that they are missing.
So my question is why are they still there when I remove them?
I right click and remove set and contained fonts
could it be I need to deactivate before removing?
I don't like fonts in my library - uses up too many resources and slows things down. Did you try this (after deactivating)? (see screenshot)
Quote from: Tracy on August 01, 2012, 10:06:59 AMCleaning up my fonts.
I have some fonts I always leave in there
but the job specific fonts I remove when done
but a lot of those fonts are still in the library,
most of the file path shows that they are missing.
So my question is why are they still there when I remove them?
I right click and remove set and contained fonts
could it be I need to deactivate before removing?
Are you removing them from the sets, or are you removing them from the library itself? FEX sets work a lot like iTunes playlists (or placed images in InDesign). The fonts listed there are just references to fonts in the library.
Just another thought, but you'll have to reboot afterwards...
You can always run the cleaning tools, specifically the cache.
Thanks for the iTunes analogy Youston! it helps :laugh:
I will check out the clean Manage folder, thanks Diggy!
Quote from: Tracy on August 01, 2012, 01:57:52 PMThanks for the iTunes analogy Youston! it helps :laugh:
I will check out the clean Manage folder, thanks Diggy!
You know I live ONLY to serve YOU, Tracy. :kiss:
But I'm so grateful :kiss:
Our incomings are so PDF'y these days that I don't use FEX that much. Any fonts that don't auto-activate as fonts in the 'Document Fonts' folder I drop into the Indy 'Fonts' folder. Used to be a bit obsessed with FEX. :shrug:
good to know there is another option
yeah, sometimes they don't auto activate, huh?
Quote from: frailer on August 01, 2012, 02:04:27 PMOur incomings are so PDF'y these days that I don't use FEX that much. Any fonts that don't auto-activate as fonts in the 'Document Fonts' folder I drop into the Indy 'Fonts' folder. Used to be a bit obsessed with FEX. :shrug:
Same here. :goodpost:
I've been doing the "document fonts" thing for a while as well. Don't have to do anything, just double click to open the ID file and forget the fonts!
Quote from: Tracy on August 01, 2012, 02:00:35 PMBut I'm so grateful :kiss:
It's good to be Grateful on this, the 70th anniversary of Jerry's birth. :band:
Quote from: david on August 01, 2012, 02:29:48 PMI've been doing the "document fonts" thing for a while as well. Don't have to do anything, just double click to open the ID file and forget the fonts!
^^This!^^
I almost don't ever have to use any kind of font management anymore.
yepper, just too easy...
sometimes
AARRgghh! Had to open a Quack doc. FEX no launchie... May have to reinstall.
Can I put the fonts in User/Fonts? Will Quack see 'em? Or Sys Fonts? Shouldn't be a conflict. ----> Minion. Trash when done... :undecided:
Quote from: frailer on August 02, 2012, 05:55:20 PMAARRgghh! Had to open a Quack doc. FEX no launchie... May have to reinstall.
Can I put the fonts in User/Fonts? Will Quack see 'em? Or Sys Fonts? Shouldn't be a conflict. ----> Minion. Trash when done... :undecided:
You can put them there but no guarantee the big Q will see them. :laugh:
Haha.... FEX finally launched, without doing a 'not responding' :huh:
Now I can't remember how to bring up the check images/fonts update panel... Q7 :old:
.......... actually able to open an old Q file in Q7.3, Save as a PDF (which of course creates a.ps unless you have a Watched Folder :undecided: ). No matter, ---> Distilled, placed in Indy, reExported (just in case). ready for XMF. Just a large poster, but still... :faint:
Quote from: frailer on August 02, 2012, 05:55:20 PMAARRgghh! Had to open a Quack doc.
You have my most sincere condolences. :needhug:
Quote from: frailer on August 02, 2012, 06:45:49 PMHaha.... FEX finally launched, without doing a 'not responding' :huh:
Now I can't remember how to bring up the check images/fonts update panel... Q7 :old:
.......... actually able to open an old Q file in Q7.3, Save as a PDF (which of course creates a.ps unless you have a Watched Folder :undecided: ). No matter, ---> Distilled, placed in Indy, reExported (just in case). ready for XMF. Just a large poster, but still... :faint:
utilities/usage
quick key F13 for font usage
F12 for picture usage
If my memory serves me correctly
I could be wrong tho, I haven't touched a Q file for some time now
your Qless :laugh:
you must be havin' a happy friday Tracy!
I am, of course, Qless for sure!
LOL
Ah, Ya, Utilities/Usage. Not sure I tripped over it in Q7. Shall have a look Monday, just to satisfy the curiosity. Curiosity+Quack=Sad.
However, I activated Minion in FEX, and got the little © tag to show up nicely; so to .ps ASAP; no tempting fate. It was surreal, being in there.
glad you made it out alive...
it's like the Forbidden Planet...
... with Dr Who music...
It's F13 for fonts, Option F13 for pictures. This is on a Mac. Or you could go under Utilities, Usage.
Quote from: david on August 03, 2012, 11:20:04 AMquick key F13 for font usage
F12 for picture usage
If my memory serves me correctly
Quote from: Possum on August 06, 2012, 02:56:33 PMIt's F13 for fonts, Option F13 for pictures. This is on a Mac. Or you could go under Utilities, Usage.
well, I was partly right, I guess I'm half ass :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Joe on February 23, 2009, 05:19:14 PMHere is the last released version for the PC (I think). It seemed to work fine on XP but I had problems with it when trying it on Vista.
https://www.b4print.com/downloads/FontExplorerX-0.9.1.2250.exe (https://www.b4print.com/downloads/FontExplorerX-0.9.1.2250.exe)
Quote from: Captain_Type on April 22, 2009, 08:03:27 AMI couldn't get Joe's link for the PC version to work (404 file not found), but here is an external link to it:
http://fex.linotype.com/download/pc/FontExplorerX-0.9.1.2250.exe
(http://fex.linotype.com/download/pc/FontExplorerX-0.9.1.2250.exe)
These are both dead links. Is this still available for Windows?
http://test.b4print.com/utilities/FontExplorerX-0.9.1.2250.exe.zip (http://test.b4print.com/utilities/FontExplorerX-0.9.1.2250.exe.zip)
Thx. I also found it here. http://mac.softpedia.com/progDownload/Linotype-FontExplorer-X-Download-10503.html (http://mac.softpedia.com/progDownload/Linotype-FontExplorer-X-Download-10503.html)
Will try out tomorrow.
Quote from: gnubler on August 15, 2012, 04:44:07 PMThx. I also found it here. http://mac.softpedia.com/progDownload/Linotype-FontExplorer-X-Download-10503.html (http://mac.softpedia.com/progDownload/Linotype-FontExplorer-X-Download-10503.html)
Will try out tomorrow.
I think that link is the Mac version. The one I posted was the Windows version.
Quote from: Joe on August 15, 2012, 04:46:32 PMQuote from: gnubler on August 15, 2012, 04:44:07 PMThx. I also found it here. http://mac.softpedia.com/progDownload/Linotype-FontExplorer-X-Download-10503.html (http://mac.softpedia.com/progDownload/Linotype-FontExplorer-X-Download-10503.html)
Will try out tomorrow.
I think that link is the Mac version. The one I posted was the Windows version.
Must get a bit tedious, having to gently correct people, Joe. :laugh:
Quote from: frailer on August 15, 2012, 06:45:27 PMQuote from: Joe on August 15, 2012, 04:46:32 PMQuote from: gnubler on August 15, 2012, 04:44:07 PMThx. I also found it here. http://mac.softpedia.com/progDownload/Linotype-FontExplorer-X-Download-10503.html (http://mac.softpedia.com/progDownload/Linotype-FontExplorer-X-Download-10503.html)
Will try out tomorrow.
I think that link is the Mac version. The one I posted was the Windows version.
Must get a bit tedious, having to gently correct people, Joe. :laugh:
I should probably invoke this at some point: :whip:
Quote from: Joe on August 15, 2012, 07:32:26 PMQuote from: frailer on August 15, 2012, 06:45:27 PMQuote from: Joe on August 15, 2012, 04:46:32 PMQuote from: gnubler on August 15, 2012, 04:44:07 PMThx. I also found it here. http://mac.softpedia.com/progDownload/Linotype-FontExplorer-X-Download-10503.html (http://mac.softpedia.com/progDownload/Linotype-FontExplorer-X-Download-10503.html)
Will try out tomorrow.
I think that link is the Mac version. The one I posted was the Windows version.
Must get a bit tedious, having to gently correct people, Joe. :laugh:
I should probably invoke this at some point: :whip:
:popcorn: ... wait, I could easily be a whip-ee. :undecided:
More, please! :whip:
:whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip:
One day someone will show me how to do that, and I'll probably flog it to death. :laugh:
Quote from: frailer on August 16, 2012, 04:40:24 PMOne day someone will show me how to do that, and I'll probably flog it to death. :laugh:
Man, if'n that ain't signature material, I don't know what is. :laugh: I'll give FBomb first dibs.
:lmao:
All you man, I have to clean off my monitor right now.
:laugh: the other guys decided now to show up
oh man thread jack!
:whip:
I can't get FEX to install on Windows 7. It goes thru the setup, scans system fonts, and when I click 'continue' or 'finish' (forget) the whole app just goes *POOF*. Gone. Relaunch starts the setup again, press repeat. :tantrum2:
:puke2:
Have not had luck with it on Vista either....
Well that blows.
Quote from: gnubler on August 17, 2012, 02:11:42 PMI can't get FEX to install on Windows 7. It goes thru the setup, scans system fonts, and when I click 'continue' or 'finish' (forget) the whole app just goes *POOF*. Gone. Relaunch starts the setup again, press repeat. :tantrum2:
Well I could have told you that...
https://www.b4print.com/index.php?topic=6869.0 (https://www.b4print.com/index.php?topic=6869.0)
2nd to the last post
Yep, XP was the last thing I could get it to work on. And it wasn't that great on it.
I had cause to use this today, sort of... I haven't opened it for many months... a year? :undecided: Now that you can drop fonts into Indy's app Fonts folder, and Quark is, well, kind of off the radar; just haven't needed it.
Am responding to the upgrade prompt though, just in case.
What are others' dealings with it in the past year? Or not.
Quote from: frailer on December 18, 2013, 07:32:11 PMWhat are others' dealings with it in the past year? Or not.
PDF's! :winner: :banana: :iwin:
PDFs? That's like the best case scenario (not reality).
I use FEX on my home Mac 10.5.8 (I'll never upgrade it)
For Windows I gave up on FEX after trying & buying MainType. For $39 it just works. I tried all the freebies/shares and they all sucked in one way or another.
http://www.high-logic.com/font-manager/maintype.html (http://www.high-logic.com/font-manager/maintype.html)
Reviving an old thread. I think the free version of Font Explorer is about done. We are on Mac OS Sierra now and while it runs when you open fonts now...after a reboot they are no longer open and our designers have to go back and open them again. It's like living in a third world country for them. Anyone else seen this problem and have a fix? Or a better free font program. (Suggestions to buy the new version of Font Explorer will be met with laughter)
Free programs are becoming extinct, since so many companies got the bright Adobe idea and decided subscriptions are the way to go.
I didn't load FEX on my new computer
If I can't use Document Fonts folders
I have a shortcut to the Adobe Fonts Folder on my desktop
and Font Book seems to be working ok too.
Quote from: Tracy on February 01, 2017, 12:15:45 PMI didn't load FEX on my new computer
If I can't use Document Fonts folders
I have a shortcut to the Adobe Fonts Folder on my desktop
and Font Book seems to be working ok too.
Smart girl!
That would be my choice here but with our designers...if we didn't do it that way 10 years ago no way in hell can we change now. They would scream bloody murder!
We would need 8,000 shortcuts on our designers desktop to point to everywhere they have fonts stored. >:(
Ughhhh...I hate Font Book! :puke:
Let me know what you find!
I use to really like FEX, some small issues.
Quote from: Joe on February 01, 2017, 08:04:24 AMReviving an old thread. I think the free version of Font Explorer is about done. We are on Mac OS Sierra now and while it runs when you open fonts now...after a reboot they are no longer open and our designers have to go back and open them again. It's like living in a third world country for them. Anyone else seen this problem and have a fix? Or a better free font program. (Suggestions to buy the new version of Font Explorer will be met with laughter)
I found the same thing with the free FEX when I updated to ML. Sometimes my "fave" font sets stay on, other times they go off when I shut down. No biggy to turn the set back on when I reboot though. I still like using FEX over some of the other shit font programs I've tried over the years.
Yeah it is easy if you only have to worry about re-opening a set or two. But it is against our designers religion to be organized like that. They have to be scattered in eleventy thousand font sets.
I remember spending hours getting it to work, (or my brain to work with it, more like..), and it turned out to be a pretty good freebie, even compared to the paid ones.
But it seems like a distant memory now. Weird how what was an upfront issue just gets superseded by progress in software/workflows.
But then, I tend to open Indy to order prepress stock, these days.. not much else.
I hated that other one you'd always use with Quack, whose name escapes me now. Extensis did it...
Quote from: frailer on February 02, 2017, 09:53:24 PMI remember spending hours getting it to work, (or my brain to work with it, more like..), and it turned out to be a pretty good freebie, even compared to the paid ones.
But it seems like a distant memory now. Weird how what was an upfront issue just gets superseded by progress in software/workflows.
But then, I tend to open Indy to order prepress stock, these days.. not much else.
I hated that other one you'd always use with Quack, whose name escapes me now. Extensis did it...
On a happy note I got my fonts to stay open after a reboot. Had to drag this critter to my 'Login Items' in my user account:
/Users/~/Library/Application Support/Linotype/FontExplorer X/FontExplorerXAutoload
Frailer, I think you are talking about this one: Suitcase 8 (http://www.macworld.com/article/1016124/suitcase.html)
Joe your using the Free FEX on your new computer?
Yes.
One of the dezigners here is trying to sell the Owner on Extensis Universal Type Server, even though I've tried to tell them exhaustively, that all they have to do is include the Document Fonts folder with every single job. Apparently, that's too much trouble. I spend a ridiculous amount of time searching for fonts when I go into an existing file to makes changes or dupe it for a new job.
Can't teach these young un's anything!! :cane:
damn fonts... got a buttload of designer weirdness fonts I need but I can't find, or the ones I have just don't work...
fonts suck!!!
3 hours just dinkin' with fonts!!!
time for a drink!!! or 3
:drunk3: :drunk3: :drunk3:
Quote from: Slappy on February 03, 2017, 03:01:09 PMOne of the dezigners here is trying to sell the Owner on Extensis Universal Type Server, even though I've tried to tell them exhaustively, that all they have to do is include the Document Fonts folder with every single job. Apparently, that's too much trouble. I spend a ridiculous amount of time searching for fonts when I go into an existing file to makes changes or dupe it for a new job.
Can't teach these young un's anything!! :cane:
It's too hard to click on Package? There's even a keyboard shortcut FFS.
It's amazing how some can get so far knowing so little.
Something, something Trump.
Everyone has to make some sort of Trump comment for everything posted on the internet now, right?
I have seen Universal Type Server work really well under a few certain condition.
You need a clean Font library without duplicates/Free Web Fonts/corrupt fonts or anything that has ever been near a deziner who has ever had access to Fontographer. You also absolutely require a management that will instantly fire anyone who trys to use font book to get around UTS...
I've only ever work in 2 places that would do that. Both had been sued for illegal font usage. My attitude is that prepress is not responsible for unsupplied fonts. "Your job as supplied has failed basic preflight...Let me know when you have fixed it."
What color is the sky in the world you live in? It sounds wonderful, I'd love to visit.
I wish more shops would nut up and tell the clients when the files are crap. All the places I've worked in leave it to prepress to magically make things work by whatever means necessary.
Quote from: Farabomb on February 06, 2017, 11:11:51 AMWhat color is the sky in the world you live in? It sounds wonderful, I'd love to visit.
I wish more shops would nut up and tell the clients when the files are crap. All the places I've worked in leave it to prepress to magically make things work by whatever means necessary.
These were 2 shops out of 15 or 20 in my career. I am sure the rest were exactly like what you describe. BTW, My attitude has lead to change of employment many times. If i could fix it, I wouldn't have the conversation. I will not accept responsibility for bad files, I will offer solutions and alternatives but that is for the boss and the client to decide or accept. I get paid the same and I sleep well with whatever they want.
I can fix almost anything but someone else is going to authorize the work and expense.
I wholeheartedly agree.
I need to live where you do though. I need a new place to work that's somewhat modern.
Well... I am not in one of those shops now...
I fact my current boss insists that I show him online evidence that what I'm telling him is industry standard before he will believe what I say needs to be done. Most of our major print vendors call me directly when there is an issue because involving management is an unnecessary delay. What he doesn't know won't hurt him and keeps me employed.
The grass is only greener because I paint it that way
Quote from: Joe on February 01, 2017, 08:04:24 AMReviving an old thread. I think the free version of Font Explorer is about done. We are on Mac OS Sierra now and while it runs when you open fonts now...after a reboot they are no longer open and our designers have to go back and open them again. It's like living in a third world country for them. Anyone else seen this problem and have a fix? Or a better free font program. (Suggestions to buy the new version of Font Explorer will be met with laughter)
Yep, same deal here, was going to start a new topic but found one. I will continue ready this post because God-forbid we have to pay for something here.
Another problem with FEX that I am having: When you open a document in Indesign with fonts missing, you have to activate them in FEX, THEN quit Indesign and open it up again. Same thing is happening in other programs.
Has anyone come up with a good solution for Sierra? Even if we have to pay, this is wearing thin real quick.
Quote from: pspdfppdfxhd on May 16, 2017, 08:47:21 AMAnother problem with FEX that I am having: When you open a document in Indesign with fonts missing, you have to activate them in FEX, THEN quit Indesign and open it up again. Same thing is happening in other programs.
Has anyone come up with a good solution for Sierra? Even if we have to pay, this is wearing thin real quick.
With one of the updates to Indesign, and I think it is the 2017 version, InDesign no longer see fonts opened after it is started. It requires InDesign to be shut down and restarted.
Quote from: pspdfppdfxhd on May 16, 2017, 08:43:12 AMQuote from: Joe on February 01, 2017, 08:04:24 AMReviving an old thread. I think the free version of Font Explorer is about done. We are on Mac OS Sierra now and while it runs when you open fonts now...after a reboot they are no longer open and our designers have to go back and open them again. It's like living in a third world country for them. Anyone else seen this problem and have a fix? Or a better free font program. (Suggestions to buy the new version of Font Explorer will be met with laughter)
Yep, same deal here, was going to start a new topic but found one. I will continue ready this post because God-forbid we have to pay for something here.
I did find the fix for this. Open System Preferences ===> Users & Groups =====> Login Items. Then drag the file "/Users/~/Library/Application Support/Linotype/FontExplorer X/FontExplorerXAutoload" into the "These items will open automatically when you log in" box.
So that's not FEX related then I am guessing.
Quote from: Joe on May 16, 2017, 09:15:53 AMQuote from: pspdfppdfxhd on May 16, 2017, 08:43:12 AMQuote from: Joe on February 01, 2017, 08:04:24 AMReviving an old thread. I think the free version of Font Explorer is about done. We are on Mac OS Sierra now and while it runs when you open fonts now...after a reboot they are no longer open and our designers have to go back and open them again. It's like living in a third world country for them. Anyone else seen this problem and have a fix? Or a better free font program. (Suggestions to buy the new version of Font Explorer will be met with laughter)
Yep, same deal here, was going to start a new topic but found one. I will continue ready this post because God-forbid we have to pay for something here.
I did find the fix for this. Open System Preferences ===> Users & Groups =====> Login Items. Then drag the file "/Users/~/Library/Application Support/Linotype/FontExplorer X/FontExplorerXAutoload" into the "These items will open automatically when you log in" box.
Yes, thanks that solved THAT problem.
Deeeecent
Quote from: pspdfppdfxhd on May 16, 2017, 09:31:10 AMSo that's not FEX related then I am guessing.
Well it wasn't a FEX problem with the version prior to InDesign 2017 and since FEX hasn't been updated in years I am blaming Adobe. My guess is Adobe would disagree with me.
Just an FYI if anyone is considering updating their Mac to Mac OS 10.13 High Sierra. When you launch the old FREE version of Linotype Font Explorer you get this error message. If you click "Continue" you get the error message again. Click "Continue" again and after that it appears to be working normally but I can't guarantee it.
Quote from: frailer on February 22, 2008, 01:49:54 AMEverybody got their 1.2.3 update? Come on, 1,2,3..hop to it!
:woohoo:
I am on V.1.2.3 circa 2008. Is that funny?
:drunk3:
Quote from: Joe on October 16, 2017, 10:03:39 AMJust an FYI if anyone is considering updating their Mac to Mac OS 10.13 High Sierra. When you launch the old FREE version of Linotype Font Explorer you get this error message. If you click "Continue" you get the error message again. Click "Continue" again and after that it appears to be working normally but I can't guarantee it.
There's a pay for version? I've been using the free one for the last 11 years.
I have noticed that bug warning sometimes when restarting. Goes away after 1-3 times... I thought it was actually doing something useful. So it's a bug that's that's informing you that it's detected a bug. Brilliant.
Oh yes I do see the "pay" version online.
May have to get it when V1.2.3 is not working any more. I mean like it's not getting updates and all.
Quote from: Joe on October 16, 2017, 10:03:39 AMJust an FYI if anyone is considering updating their Mac to Mac OS 10.13 High Sierra. When you launch the old FREE version of Linotype Font Explorer you get this error message. If you click "Continue" you get the error message again. Click "Continue" again and after that it appears to be working normally but I can't guarantee it.
...you left one bit out.
Quote am blaming Adobe. My guess is Adobe would disagree with me.
We don't use ANY font management software anymore. Just the InDesign/Fonts folder. If we need something for Illy or PS, we temp drop it into the Users/Library/Fonts and then delete it when we're done.