Working with Font Explorer

Started by jezza, September 09, 2007, 01:15:54 AM

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frailer

I remember spending hours getting it to work, (or my brain to work with it, more like..), and it turned out to be a pretty good freebie, even compared to the paid ones. 
But it seems like a distant memory now. Weird how what was an upfront issue just gets superseded by progress in software/workflows.
But then, I tend to open Indy to order prepress stock, these days.. not much else.
I hated that other one you'd always use with Quack, whose name escapes me now. Extensis did it...
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Joe

Quote from: frailer on February 02, 2017, 09:53:24 PMI remember spending hours getting it to work, (or my brain to work with it, more like..), and it turned out to be a pretty good freebie, even compared to the paid ones.
But it seems like a distant memory now. Weird how what was an upfront issue just gets superseded by progress in software/workflows.
But then, I tend to open Indy to order prepress stock, these days.. not much else.
I hated that other one you'd always use with Quack, whose name escapes me now. Extensis did it...

On a happy note I got my fonts to stay open after a reboot. Had to drag this critter to my 'Login Items' in my user account:

/Users/~/Library/Application Support/Linotype/FontExplorer X/FontExplorerXAutoload

Frailer, I think you are talking about this one: Suitcase 8
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Tracy

Joe your using the Free FEX on your new computer?

Joe

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Slappy

One of the dezigners here is trying to sell the Owner on Extensis Universal Type Server, even though I've tried to tell them exhaustively, that all they have to do is include the Document Fonts folder with every single job. Apparently, that's too much trouble. I spend a ridiculous amount of time searching for fonts when I go into an existing file to makes changes or dupe it for a new job.

Can't teach these young un's anything!!  :cane:
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David

damn fonts...  got a buttload of designer weirdness fonts I need but I can't find, or the ones I have just don't work...


fonts suck!!!
3 hours just dinkin' with fonts!!!



time for a drink!!!   or 3
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Farabomb

Quote from: Slappy on February 03, 2017, 03:01:09 PMOne of the dezigners here is trying to sell the Owner on Extensis Universal Type Server, even though I've tried to tell them exhaustively, that all they have to do is include the Document Fonts folder with every single job. Apparently, that's too much trouble. I spend a ridiculous amount of time searching for fonts when I go into an existing file to makes changes or dupe it for a new job.

Can't teach these young un's anything!!  :cane:
It's too hard to click on Package? There's even a keyboard shortcut FFS.

It's amazing how some can get so far knowing so little.

Something, something Trump.

Everyone has to make some sort of Trump comment for everything posted on the internet now, right?
Speed doesn't kill, rapidly becoming stationary is the problem

I'd rather have stories told than be telling stories of what I could have done.

Quote from: Ear on April 06, 2016, 11:54:16 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on April 06, 2016, 11:39:41 AMIt's more like grip, grip, grip, noise, then spin and 2 feet in and feel shame.
I once knew a plus-sized girl and this pretty much describes teh secks. :rotf:
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Just_A_Mac_Guy

I have seen Universal Type Server work really well under a few certain condition.
You need a clean Font library without duplicates/Free Web Fonts/corrupt fonts or anything that has ever been near a deziner who has ever had access to Fontographer. You also absolutely require a management that will instantly fire anyone who trys to use font book to get around UTS...
I've only ever work in 2 places that would do that. Both had been sued for illegal font usage. My attitude is that prepress is not responsible for unsupplied fonts. "Your job as supplied has failed basic preflight...Let me know when you have fixed it."

Farabomb

What color is the sky in the world you live in? It sounds wonderful, I'd love to visit.

I wish more shops would nut up and tell the clients when the files are crap. All the places I've worked in leave it to prepress to magically make things work by whatever means necessary.
Speed doesn't kill, rapidly becoming stationary is the problem

I'd rather have stories told than be telling stories of what I could have done.

Quote from: Ear on April 06, 2016, 11:54:16 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on April 06, 2016, 11:39:41 AMIt's more like grip, grip, grip, noise, then spin and 2 feet in and feel shame.
I once knew a plus-sized girl and this pretty much describes teh secks. :rotf:
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
         —Benjamin Franklin

My other job

Just_A_Mac_Guy

Quote from: Farabomb on February 06, 2017, 11:11:51 AMWhat color is the sky in the world you live in? It sounds wonderful, I'd love to visit.

I wish more shops would nut up and tell the clients when the files are crap. All the places I've worked in leave it to prepress to magically make things work by whatever means necessary.

These were 2 shops out of 15 or 20 in my career. I am sure the rest were exactly like what you describe. BTW, My attitude has lead to change of employment many times. If i could fix it, I wouldn't have the conversation. I will not accept responsibility for bad files, I will offer solutions and alternatives but that is for the boss and the client to decide or accept. I get paid the same and I sleep well with whatever they want.
I can fix almost anything but someone else is going to authorize the work and expense.

Farabomb

I wholeheartedly agree.

I need to live where you do though. I need a new place to work that's somewhat modern.
Speed doesn't kill, rapidly becoming stationary is the problem

I'd rather have stories told than be telling stories of what I could have done.

Quote from: Ear on April 06, 2016, 11:54:16 AM
Quote from: Farabomb on April 06, 2016, 11:39:41 AMIt's more like grip, grip, grip, noise, then spin and 2 feet in and feel shame.
I once knew a plus-sized girl and this pretty much describes teh secks. :rotf:
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
         —Benjamin Franklin

My other job

Just_A_Mac_Guy

Well... I am not in one of those shops now...
I fact my current boss insists that  I show him online evidence that what I'm telling him is industry standard before he will believe what I say needs to be done. Most of our major print vendors call me directly when there is an issue because involving management is an unnecessary delay. What he doesn't know won't hurt him and keeps me employed.

The grass is only greener because I paint it that way

pspdfppdfxhd

Quote from: Joe on February 01, 2017, 08:04:24 AMReviving an old thread. I think the free version of Font Explorer is about done. We are on Mac OS Sierra now and while it runs when you open fonts now...after a reboot they are no longer open and our designers have to go back and open them again. It's like living in a third world country for them. Anyone else seen this problem and have a fix? Or a better free font program. (Suggestions to buy the new version of Font Explorer will be met with laughter)


Yep, same deal here, was going to start a new topic but found one. I will continue ready this post because God-forbid we have to pay for something here.

pspdfppdfxhd

Another problem with FEX that I am having: When you open a document in Indesign with fonts missing, you have to activate them in FEX, THEN quit Indesign and open it up again. Same thing is happening in other programs.

Has anyone come up with a good solution for Sierra? Even if we have to pay, this is wearing thin real quick.

Joe

Quote from: pspdfppdfxhd on May 16, 2017, 08:47:21 AMAnother problem with FEX that I am having: When you open a document in Indesign with fonts missing, you have to activate them in FEX, THEN quit Indesign and open it up again. Same thing is happening in other programs.

Has anyone come up with a good solution for Sierra? Even if we have to pay, this is wearing thin real quick.

With one of the updates to Indesign, and I think it is the 2017 version, InDesign no longer see fonts opened after it is started. It requires InDesign to be shut down and restarted.
Mac OS Sonoma 14.2.1 (c) | (retired)

The seven ages of man: spills, drills, thrills, bills, ills, pills and wills.