New cheese grater with PCI slots. And a whopping price.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/06/its-really-real-apple-unveils-the-all-new-mac-pro/
Overpriced by a whole bunch.
gee, the 32" monitor is only 5k. What's the problem Joe, you should get at least two monitors to see all the gloriousness of the over 6k Mac!
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Oh boy. It comes with a Radeon 580X... You have to pay extra to get current gen hardware.
Quoteoptional video card called "Afterburner" that Apple claims can decode more than 6 billion pixels per second
faster than I can blink
wonder what this means in real life, render a video in under 2 seconds?
It means customers can make more mistakes faster than before.
Very impressive specs and PCIe expansion capability is a welcome return. Hopefully this idea trickles down to a new desktop tower for the rest of us, but I'm not holding my breath.
28 core Xeon processor, Radeon Pro Vega II Duo 64Gb VRAM Graphics card which runs at 1Tb/sec - you can have 2 of them giving 128GB of video memory and 56 teraflops of graphics performance. 12 RAM slots so you can have up to 1.5TB of RAM. Multiple terabyte SSD hard drives. These are not even the max you can get.
This top of the range er, range is aimed more at high end video / audio processing and is rackable ffs if you need multiples of this power.
Not for us mortals you might say but if I had the moolah (and I was single) I would have one in a heartbeat.
The thing is definitely a beast. But a beast for very few people. The few people that do need will have no problem spending that kind of money. Yeah I would love to have one. But nope...never will in this lifetime short of winning the lottery.
Quote from: Joe on June 04, 2019, 06:44:18 AM
The thing is definitely a beast. But a beast for very few people. The few people that do need will have no problem spending that kind of money. Yeah I would love to have one. But nope...never will in this lifetime short of winning the lottery.
Yes, they again have gone way about the average pro user.
Also looks like a proprietary hard drive that will cost probably 3 to 4x as much for the same space with a conventional SSD.
Ugliest computer Apple has made though spec wise it looks good... for that small market. They need a cheaper model, could settle on i7 and i9 chips and a bay for 4 SSD internal drives. Of course that will not happen.
Oh and that $5000 screen does not come with a stand, for the ugly stand for the ugly screen add another $1000.
They are about to price them out of the prepress market, at least for us, in their iMac line. Would not even consider the iMac Pro. Not too long ago we could get a decent 27" iMac for around $1,500 (refurbished). I ordered one last week with a not too special set of specs: June 2017 Model i7 CPU, 16 GB ram, 1 TB Fusion drive (refurbished). $2,039.00 + tax.
It replaced my Late 2014 model with an i7 CPU, 16 GB of RAM, 1 TB Fusion drive. Same specs except the i7 CPU in the old one was 6th generation i7 while this new one is an 8th generation i7 so it should be noticeably faster. I can tell no difference from the old one to the new one doing general prepress work.
I'm sure this is aimed at the professional audio and post-production film market, especially with that monitor. I'm just surprised that they went back to internal slots when they made everybody buy add-ons for their cards and what not with the last big change.
You don't supposed they're actually admitting they made a boo boo before? Naw......
Quote from: Possum on June 04, 2019, 02:51:30 PM
I'm sure this is aimed at the professional audio and post-production film market, especially with that monitor. I'm just surprised that they went back to internal slots when they made everybody buy add-ons for their cards and what not with the last big change.
You don't supposed they're actually admitting they made a boo boo before? Naw......
Apple did admit they messed up with the trashcan design.
I wonder what the market is like for audio work and video editing. I agree this is obviously geared at them.
I can stomach around $5K CDN for a work computer, beyond that it would have to offer vast radical changes and improvements for my daily work to really justify such steep prices. It's crazy that the new Apple monitor costs more then my maxed out 5K iMac when you add in the $1000 stand.
I can only imagine this is aimed at Pixar/Dreamworks or other visual effects companies.
Quote from: AaronH on June 04, 2019, 03:11:54 PM
I can only imagine this is aimed at Pixar/Dreamworks or other visual effects companies.
Agreed...but there was a time we bought Mac Pros for prepress. I can't wait until you can click the "Buy" button at Apple so I can spec it out with all of the top of line stuff just to see the overall price. I'm guessing it might come close to $100K.
I actually really liked the trashcan design. Innovative self cooling shape and looks like something the Borg might have used with its cover off.
One good thing about the new Mac Pro - the old Mac Pro will drop in price considerably. Current top spec refurbished model £1,749.
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Quote from: StudioMonkey on June 05, 2019, 03:42:11 AM
I actually really liked the trashcan design. Innovative self cooling shape and looks like something the Borg might have used with its cover off.
One good thing about the new Mac Pro - the old Mac Pro will drop in price considerably. Current top spec refurbished model £1,749.
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I don't mind it, I would just prefer having everything internal and being able to get at the GPU, CPU, RAM and hard drives with ease. I do not like the idea of externals for everything, prefer a cleaner computer.
I did contemplate that Mac Pro before opting for the 5K iMac. Performance was similar with my maxed 5k iMac to the Mac Pro and price was similar, the big thing was I got a 5K screen with the iMac, if I wanted an equivalent screen to go with a Mac Pro I needed to drop another couple thousand. That pushed me over to the iMac. I still think the price is high even for refurbished.
Here is what $999.00 will buy you at Apple. But I guess a $4,999.00 monitor deserves it.
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apparently aluminum is very expensive now-a-days.
I might get 2 of those and just sit them on the desk for art.
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Apple branded bookends. Very chi-chi. :lmao:
Realistically I would give them $9.99 for it. They just have the decimal point in the wrong place. Probably just a typo.
Quote from: Joe on June 05, 2019, 08:41:14 AM
Here is what $999.00 will buy you at Apple. But I guess a $4,999.00 monitor deserves it.
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how the F do you justify a $999 monitor stand? i guess if you are getting one of these workstations, its probably not your money anyway
Quote from: delooch on June 05, 2019, 09:14:27 AM
Quote from: Joe on June 05, 2019, 08:41:14 AM
Here is what $999.00 will buy you at Apple. But I guess a $4,999.00 monitor deserves it.
:facepalm:
how the F do you justify a $999 monitor stand? i guess if you are getting one of these workstations, its probably not your money anyway
Or you have more of it (money) than you need.
solved.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L85LZ6G?aaxitk=nBTIbAMklKo4qe6Y0FSuiA
or is this not mac compatible ::)
I read an article saying if you can afford the $4999 monitor you shouldnt balk at a $1000 monitor stand..
Shouldnt that come with the damn thing in the first place?
I guess im retarded, because i just dont get it.
Everyone that buys the Apple stand does us a disservice.
Same goes for the wireless earbuds that are available from 3rd party vendors at pennies-on-the-dollar.
Remember when you could go to Rosarito (South of Tijuana) and get cheap lobster dinners? Well it's not cheap any more since dumbasses quit haggling. The market only bears what we let it. Consumers collectively get what we deserve.
Can't fix stupid... and it's contagious too.
Quote from: delooch on June 05, 2019, 01:27:39 PM
solved.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L85LZ6G?aaxitk=nBTIbAMklKo4qe6Y0FSuiA
or is this not mac compatible ::)
I read an article saying if you can afford the $4999 monitor you shouldnt balk at a $1000 monitor stand..
Shouldnt that come with the damn thing in the first place?
I guess im retarded, because i just dont get it.
No
real Apple fanboy woulds be caught dead with a $32 monitor stand. Plus it is not ALUMINUM!
I did like the guy on twitter that photoshopped the monitor duct taped to his wall.
i dont know. i guess im one of those die-hard anti-apple people. why im not sure anymore. I think i was just to troll apple fanboys, they get really excited.
I about died when i forked over $$$ for an iphoneX for my daughter, but she saved up $450 and paid for half.
This summer i need to buy her a laptop for school, the fucking dell i7 i already have isnt good enough, she wants a macbook. Like im going to fork over $1300 for one of those.
she better get a job soon.
The Dell prolly does more than the so-thin-it-burns-itself-up MacBook. Tell her the MacBooks have lousy keyboards and nobody likes them. Which isn't far from the mark from the posts I've read about them. I think they're on their third round of improvements and they're not much better.
yeah i think its a status thing with her friends. teenage girls are horrible to each other. out of her group, theres like 2-3 "normal" kids, the rest come from well-to-do families.. the school is in the rich part of town.
android and windows is soooo lame.
Teach her how the world really is, get her a Chromebook.
Loaded with all the Blocksy shit.
How about an old 35 pound Toshiba laptop running Windows 98. Show her how bad we had it back in the day. Walking uphill both directions lugging that heavy-ass laptop back and forth. :rotf:
:gom:
In '05 when I graduated high school, I saved up and paid for half of a MacBook, my parents paid for the other half for college. I had been using PCs forever, but my previous three PCs fried on me and I didn't realize the power supply wasn't strong enough for the graphics card I had in them. Turns out the MacBook couldn't run WoW very well either and I ended up having to replace the RAM and the fans on it a couple years later after AppleCare ran out. It lasted until about 2010 when I got an iMac. About a year later, I then sold for an Asus g73 gaming laptop, which weighed 10 pounds but was 5 times more powerful than my iMac. I found Macs to be overpriced for their hardware.
I don't really know what I was trying to say. Its the end of the day and my brain is shot.
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I think you were trying to say Macs are overpriced for their hardware. And you are correct. You can get a lot more bang for your buck on the PC side. I just prefer the Mac GUI. I really should get over that.
:rotf:
I can see eventually moving to PC. I have been an Apple fan and user since the first iMac came out. They really have lost their direction with Cook. Jobs was a visionary and it showed.
That being said the problems you can have with someone using a Windows computer who does not know how to keep their computer safe and could be clicking on just about anything from anywhere might cause more problems then it is worth the cheaper price.
I feel much safer on a Mac for kids knowing it is much harder for them to really mess things up with a wrong click.
Especially with kids and social media. I used to work from home for somebody who never listened when I asked her not to forward me those e-mails that tell you to send them to ten friends or whatever. Explained what could happen. Finally it did. Her computer crashed bad - twice. No backup either time.
:banghead:
Word's getting out:
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Don't give them any ideas!
Quote from: born2print on June 06, 2019, 10:39:18 AM
Word's getting out:
Well that just made my day in a day full of loony ass-hats here!
Now this new one will cost even more. It's going to be made in China. Tariffs, anyone?
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/06/apple-moves-mac-pro-production-from-texas-to-china/?comments=1
I hope the tariff is $100,000 for each machine! :rotf: