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Title: Metadimension and icm profiles
Post by: indy007 on February 22, 2011, 11:41:20 AM
Am new to all of this and have a question. Using Metadimension 7.5.1 and HP 5500. The 5500 prints too red. I went under Cockpit's gear tool and see what icm profile is used for the Proofer Profile. However, I have no idea where it actually lives or how to edit it. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Metadimension and icm profiles
Post by: Joe on February 22, 2011, 12:21:28 PM
First, welcome to the forum. I don't have any info for you but hopefully someone will come along that does.
Title: Re: Metadimension and icm profiles
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on February 22, 2011, 12:24:29 PM
Take a look at this...

https://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=514714 (https://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=514714)
Title: Re: Metadimension and icm profiles
Post by: indy007 on February 22, 2011, 12:56:58 PM
Calibration on HP is easy enough. I'm trying to find how to change the Heidelberg icm profile. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Metadimension and icm profiles
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on February 22, 2011, 01:07:08 PM
What software/workflow do you operate? Do you have a spectrophotometer?
Title: Re: Metadimension and icm profiles
Post by: Joe on February 22, 2011, 01:09:31 PM
 :laugh:



Title: Re: Metadimension and icm profiles
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on February 22, 2011, 01:10:25 PM
I don't read that crap. Still doesn't answer the second part, smart ass.
Title: Re: Metadimension and icm profiles
Post by: DigitalCrapShoveler on February 22, 2011, 01:24:00 PM
Okay, Heidelberg Metadimension is made of several components that do different things according to workflow. Does any of this ring a bell?

"The Prinect Calibration Toolbox and the Prinect Profile Toolbox generate calibration characteristics for various output conditions and ICC profiles. Measurements can easily be taken using Prinect Image Control or other colorimeters."
Title: Re: Metadimension and icm profiles
Post by: David on February 22, 2011, 03:32:54 PM
Quote from: indy007 on February 22, 2011, 11:41:20 AMAm new to all of this and have a question. Using Metadimension 7.5.1 and HP 5500. The 5500 prints too red. I went under Cockpit's gear tool and see what icm profile is used for the Proofer Profile. However, I have no idea where it actually lives or how to edit it. Any suggestions?

can you make a curve for just the red ? I would start there, just because it is probably easier to create and edit.
otherwise you may need to dig under the hood to find the profiles. You may need to run a profile patch and make your own profile to get the proofer closer to what you need to match.
Do you have a spectro (like a i1iSis or a DTP40 or 70) and Color Toolbox?
Title: Re: Metadimension and icm profiles
Post by: mattbeals on February 22, 2011, 04:44:05 PM
Quote from: indy007 on February 22, 2011, 11:41:20 AMAm new to all of this and have a question. Using Metadimension 7.5.1 and HP 5500. The 5500 prints too red. I went under Cockpit's gear tool and see what icm profile is used for the Proofer Profile. However, I have no idea where it actually lives or how to edit it. Any suggestions?

Generally the ICC profiles (.icc or .icm) live in C:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\color\
 
For metadimension they may not be in that location so you may have to search your drive. Make sure you search with the option of hidden folders and system folders for " *.icm, *.icc ". As for how to edit, you really can't as a practical matter. Depending on what options you have in Meta, Meta itself may be able to build the ICC profile when you are done calibrating. Otherwise as others have said you will need a spectrophotometer and profiliing software to make the profile for each paper/ink combination on the HP.
Title: Re: Metadimension and icm profiles
Post by: indy007 on February 23, 2011, 07:31:29 AM
Gee and I thought this would be an easy thing. I'm sorry but I got put into this position with little training and really don't understand the insides of it. There is an X-RiteColor spectrophotometer sitting here but if there is software for it I don't have a clue. I couldn't find anything called Prinect Image Control. I did find "calibration manager" and "color proof pro". Calibration Manager is for the Suprasetter. Color Proof Pro shows me the HP5500 along with the .icm profile it's currently using. But I don't know how it was made.
Title: Re: Metadimension and icm profiles
Post by: Marktonk on February 24, 2011, 11:10:23 PM
Hi Indy007,

ColorProof Pro is the software used to drive inkjet printers from MetaDimension. I am not an operator so I can not guide you as how to fix it but the capabilities are there. Have you called the Heidelberg Technical Assistant Center? They can help you on this problem. 800-437-7388 then press 2.  If you are under warranty or if you have a software contract, this is included as part of either.

Regards,

Mark Tonkovich

Heidelberg USA
Title: Re: Metadimension and icm profiles
Post by: DigiCorn on February 25, 2011, 09:10:11 AM
[edited to reword] Mark,
I know your profile says you're from Georgia, but are you originally from Chicago or Seattle? I forget. We had a Mark from Heidelberg come out and do our ICC profile at my old company a few years back. He also had an Eastern-European/Slavic sounding name. Man that guy could build a profile. It was so f-ing dialed in!
Title: Re: Metadimension and icm profiles
Post by: gnubler on February 25, 2011, 09:38:44 AM
Quote from: DigiSig on February 25, 2011, 09:10:11 AMIt was so f-ing dialed in!

It's all a part of my plan to make you think you know everything about me, only to find out later it's all a fake out.

Title: Re: Metadimension and icm profiles
Post by: Farabomb on February 25, 2011, 09:48:00 AM
Digisig is the tossed salad man.
Title: Re: Metadimension and icm profiles
Post by: DigiCorn on February 25, 2011, 11:16:41 AM
Joe had warned me about my language once, so I only curse in the bar.