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Title: Proofers that aren't like brain surgery
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on June 08, 2017, 08:28:49 AM
Surely in this day and age there exists a proofing system that doesn't require a NASA scientist to keep stable and operational.

Anyone have any happy solutions? I am sick and tired of hearing our proofs are bad with no support available to help us without costing an arm and a leg or probably more than a new printer would.

 :drunk3:
Title: Re: Proofers that aren't like brain surgery
Post by: Joe on June 08, 2017, 08:48:46 AM
Quote from: pspdfppdfxhd on June 08, 2017, 08:28:49 AMSurely in this day and age there exists a proofing system that doesn't require a NASA scientist to keep stable and operational.

Anyone have any happy solutions? I am sick and tired of hearing our proofs are bad with no support available to help us without costing an arm and a leg or probably more than a new printer would.

 :drunk3:

Tell 'em it looks fine on your screen.
Title: Re: Proofers that aren't like brain surgery
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on June 08, 2017, 08:51:59 AM
Nowadays I am hearing more and more: It looks good on my iphone. Not kidding.


Title: Re: Proofers that aren't like brain surgery
Post by: Farabomb on June 08, 2017, 09:06:07 AM
The problem is the customer, not the proofer.

https://youtu.be/CxTaBD87z7o
Title: Re: Proofers that aren't like brain surgery
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on June 08, 2017, 09:09:47 AM
I understand the customer angle.

Fact is the proofer is unstable and the pressmen complain about it, but nobody wants to spend the money to fix the problem.

Gotta stop feeling like it's my fault.
Title: Re: Proofers that aren't like brain surgery
Post by: Joe on June 08, 2017, 09:15:03 AM
Same old story...everyone wants everything perfect until they hear the price. At least twice a year our owners want to try Stochastic printing...until they once again see the price tag.
Title: Re: Proofers that aren't like brain surgery
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on June 08, 2017, 10:09:54 AM
yeah well it's all fun and games till the reds start looking brown and the greens start looking blue.

Title: Re: Proofers that aren't like brain surgery
Post by: Farabomb on June 08, 2017, 10:20:34 AM
It's a tale as old as time.

Just like it's always prepresses' fault.
Title: Re: Proofers that aren't like brain surgery
Post by: Tracy on June 08, 2017, 10:22:43 AM
It's not your fault if the proofer isn't calibrated to the press!
Title: Re: Proofers that aren't like brain surgery
Post by: Possum on June 08, 2017, 12:16:21 PM
I love that old thing, "why didn't you tell me something was wrong with it?" Like, "why didn't you listen when i DID tell you six months ago?"
Title: Re: Proofers that aren't like brain surgery
Post by: Ear on June 08, 2017, 01:51:51 PM
No, they do not make a physical press proofing system that isn't mild rocket surgery to set up and maintain. I have a couple and they are more high maintenance than the platesetter, FFS.

I'm getting successful soft-proofing results, but only when the designer plays ball. If they give me the right PDF, (PDF 1.7 or no dice) and it passes my PitStop certification, I send them a certified PDF and a copy of the Enfocus Preflight report and tell them to view the PDF in Acrobat, as their proof.