insane - and i mean insane - illustrator file bloating - wtf?

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beermonster

October 02, 2013, 10:59:59 AM
 :drunk3:

get this - some small cartons that started life as around 50meg max have bloated a little. last count 2.5GIG!

complex masking in them but there's no "sane" reason for this.

now we have a working theory it's to do with colour books but its very long winded and i dont have time

point me to a couple of reasons (one will do - desperate) as to how illustrator has managed to fcuk these relatively simple-ish files so badly

i know i know ya never got this in freehand....... :shoots_self:
Leave me here in my - stark raving sick sad little world

born2print

#1
October 02, 2013, 11:16:23 AM
saved as pdf with maintain Illy edibility?
Huge images/bitmaps embedded?
My lips are moving and the sound's coming out
The words are audible but I have my doubts
That you realize what has been said

DigiCorn

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October 02, 2013, 11:46:51 AM
Quote from: beermonster on October 02, 2013, 10:59:59 AMfreehand
haven't heard that in a while...

oh yeah... that DCS guy is still MIA
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David

#3
October 02, 2013, 11:55:31 AM
what Born said...
images imbedded as opposed to linked?
gradient mesh in the file?
loads of high res shadows?
Prepress guy - Retired - Working from home
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Grimace

#4
October 02, 2013, 12:19:15 PM
Check the raster setting to make sure it hasn't been changed to some silly high dpi number. That is providing you have images that are being rasterized.

born2print

#5
October 02, 2013, 12:26:42 PM Last Edit: October 02, 2013, 12:27:54 PM by born2print
perhaps it was downsaved?
I've seen where I can bloat the bejeebus out of an Illy file if I were to save down to v8 for instance.
I've also seen that the bloat can be undone sometimes by saving as pdf, then open in Acrobat and save again, then back to Illy
( :shoots_self:)
My lips are moving and the sound's coming out
The words are audible but I have my doubts
That you realize what has been said

beermonster

#6
October 04, 2013, 01:28:58 AM Last Edit: October 04, 2013, 01:32:36 AM by beermonster
cheers folks

yeah this is what i said to the guys that it was probably backsaved - no shadows and raster is at 300. there is complex masking in it - we ripped it apart yesterday

just opening it typing ONE carachter, outlining it and saving with NO pdf compatibility - from 20 meg to 115 meg. :lmao:

am now convinced (almost) its a cs6-cs5 issue - colour books

so we gotta upgrade to cs6

when i say opening it - we started from scratch with supplied file - to see the bloating happen - it was fun :shoots_self:

anyone had issues with packedge/esko plug ins and cs6?
Leave me here in my - stark raving sick sad little world

beermonster

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October 04, 2013, 01:31:15 AM
born - nice trick if i could open the damm file i'd try that :shoots_self:

its now the "in" joke that i fcucked the files and now by law must "pay" for it by being the only one who edits those files :lmao: :drunk3:
Leave me here in my - stark raving sick sad little world

andyfest

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October 04, 2013, 07:04:41 AM
Quote from: beermonster on October 04, 2013, 01:28:58 AMcheers folks

yeah this is what i said to the guys that it was probably backsaved - no shadows and raster is at 300. there is complex masking in it - we ripped it apart yesterday

just opening it typing ONE carachter, outlining it and saving with NO pdf compatibility - from 20 meg to 115 meg. :lmao:

am now convinced (almost) its a cs6-cs5 issue - colour books

so we gotta upgrade to cs6

when i say opening it - we started from scratch with supplied file - to see the bloating happen - it was fun :shoots_self:

anyone had issues with packedge/esko plug ins and cs6?

We're using Esko's Nexus "classic" & pdf RIP w CS5 & CS6 with no issues yet. Almost sounds like you have a bunch of linked images (perhaps hidden?) that are embedding during the save. You could try the old Object > Show All to see if there is some hidden shit in there. One of the first things I do when preflighting custy files nowadays.
Retired - CS6 on my 2012 gen MacBook Pro

born2print

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October 04, 2013, 09:37:21 AM
Quote from: beermonster on October 04, 2013, 01:31:15 AMborn - nice trick if i could open the damm file i'd try that :shoots_self:

its now the "in" joke that i fcucked the files and now by law must "pay" for it by being the only one who edits those files :lmao: :drunk3:
Victim of your success!   :grin:
My lips are moving and the sound's coming out
The words are audible but I have my doubts
That you realize what has been said
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