RBA: Set job to completed after ALL pages are approved

[Mikie]

Greetings! 

I was made aware yesterday that people have to go into into each job and change the status to completed after all the pages are approved. Sounds like RBA time, but I can't get it to work. The only option I see is in the screenshot and that changes the status when ONE page is approved. 

We are moving one of our customers to Insite and they do a shit ton of jobs, so this is going to be a pain if I can't find a way. 

Anybody?

[Joe]

Hmmmm...interesting. Try something like this. I'm not completely sure what the Insite event 'Job Ready for Production' triggers on. Maybe once all pages are approved in Insite????

[Joe]

You might also trigger a timer when Final output is performed and set the Job status to completed after a certain amount of time.

[Mikie]

lol great minds and all, that was the other thing I tried. I am not sure what that is used for, there is not a "status" that is "job is ready for production." I assumed like you all pages being approved. 

Not a bad idea on the timer but a lot of these jobs never have anything done to them in workshop after approval...don't ask. 

The main purpose of them changing the status to completed is to take it off the active list in Insite. I'm working with one of the csr's to learn more about their workflow to try and find something atleast easier than opening each job in Insite.

[johnny_jay]

We move jobs from PreJobs to Jobs once all pages are approved and are ready to plate. Perhaps  you could use something like that as a trigger to mark jobs as completed.

John

[Mikie]

That still involves an action to be performed by the csr. I am still looking but it looks like there isn't a way to just say "when all pages are approved do — " it would be like the event when "all surfaces are full do — " Thanks for poking around with it guys, just making sure I haven't missed something obvious. I could do it if the jobs were actually touched for some reason (like plates etc) but well we do some goofy stuff here, so these jobs never get touched in workshop after approval.

[Joe]

lol great minds and all, that was the other thing I tried. I am not sure what that is used for, there is not a "status" that is "job is ready for production." I assumed like you all pages being approved.

Not a bad idea on the timer but a lot of these jobs never have anything done to them in workshop after approval...don't ask.

The main purpose of them changing the status to completed is to take it off the active list in Insite. I'm working with one of the csr's to learn more about their workflow to try and find something atleast easier than opening each job in Insite.

"job is ready for production." is an Insite event to trigger it to change the job status to completed. Have you tried it to say what cause it to trigger. I assumed once all pages are approved but I haven't tried it to see.

Are plates output at the end of the job or what exactly do these jobs do?

[johnny_jay]

Have you tried a filter?

[born2print]

Sorry, no help here, we use "Completed" as a trigger for an archive and purge RBA, but I change to completed manually.

[Mikie]

I will look into using job is ready for production somehow, seems that would be the ticket. I will also dig into filters. The filters worry me because the event is page approved, so i think it will look at just that page and not all pages. 

These jobs are using Insite to proof jobs that go to our small Indigo presses. Once they are approved the production files are copied to the HP RIP, so nothing happens in Prinergy after approval. If I could figure this out I could make it a system rule and not worry about any jobs, all pages approved = status complete. Kodak and I rarely see things the same way tho lol. 

I will play with y'alls suggestions and if I figure something out report back.

[Mikie]

OH! Got it. Thanks guys. I had to put a branch in and when a page is approved, it checks if ALL pages hve been approved. If no it does nothing, if yes, job status change. I have to go back and add something upon refinement so it takes it out of completed state, but that's easy.

Thanks for helping me work it out, I really appreciate it.

[Mikie]

I was using this as a manual trigger to clean up existing jobs still set as active because they are from before we started setting the status to complete after approval...

Pro Tip: Don't select 769 jobs at once     

[johnny_jay]

Glad to hear you have it worked out!

John

[Joe]

I will look into using job is ready for production somehow, seems that would be the ticket. I will also dig into filters. The filters worry me because the event is page approved, so i think it will look at just that page and not all pages.

These jobs are using Insite to proof jobs that go to our small Indigo presses. Once they are approved the production files are copied to the HP RIP, so nothing happens in Prinergy after approval. If I could figure this out I could make it a system rule and not worry about any jobs, all pages approved = status complete. Kodak and I rarely see things the same way tho lol.

I will play with y'alls suggestions and if I figure something out report back.

I know you got it worked out but now I'm wondering...how are the files copied? I think you could have RBA to copy files and then upon success have it change the job status to completed.

[Mikie]

it depends on the job joe. Sometimes it would be the pdf from workshop, but a lot of times it is a jlt file for the indigo. I am making it a system rule so it has to be good for all the situations, even offset and SS jobs. This will work to solve my goal, keep people from having to open an insite job after approval and set the status.

this is why I am glad this forum is still here