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Title: magic photo cubes
Post by: motormount on September 19, 2016, 03:22:17 AM
Does anyone knows how's this things (http://sofia.nmsu.edu/~breakingaway/Lessons/MFC/MFC.html) are massed produced?

A customer wants 3000 pieces, and google search provides me with hand crafting solutions...

I think one could print the ''inner'' parts on an ''open'' cube and then use printed sticker to unite the ''folding'' parts, that makes the big pictures, still too much hand work, for budget like a dollar for each of them...

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: born2print on September 19, 2016, 10:39:26 AM
https://www.goimprints.com/product/mystic-puzzle-cube-6642892/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=product%2Bsearch&utm_campaign=base

Buyout for $1.25 each and charge $2.00?
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: motormount on September 20, 2016, 01:17:23 AM
It's the customers quote - if i'm using the word right - for a dollar each, so outsourcing is out of the question.

Another problem might be that we are located in Greece...

Now cost's here in Greece may be even lower than the costs in the states, but i don't think you can beat someone who's doing this over and over while we are trying to figure out how is done, so i'd expect our production costs to exceed the customers billing expectations.

Thanks anyway!


Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: wonderings on September 20, 2016, 07:15:25 AM
Maybe it is something you need to look at outsourcing. Get a quote from a trade printer or someone who does these speciality things. You may find somewhere that gives you trade pricing. While you will not make as much money, you do make some and you do not have hand work putting 3000 of those things together.
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: Ear on September 21, 2016, 10:54:13 AM
Quote from: motormount on September 20, 2016, 01:17:23 AM...so i'd expect our production costs to exceed the customers billing expectations.
Sounds to me like your customer needs to adjust their expectations.
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: Joe on September 21, 2016, 10:57:19 AM
Quote from: Ear on September 21, 2016, 10:54:13 AM
Quote from: motormount on September 20, 2016, 01:17:23 AM...so i'd expect our production costs to exceed the customers billing expectations.
Sounds to me like your customer needs to adjust their expectations.

How dare you!
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: Ear on September 21, 2016, 11:00:57 AM
Oh I dare. Try it... you'd think it would be super inflammatory, but I think people know when they are expecting too much and just never get called on it. I first used it with an irate client and they calmed right down. A few times since... sparingly.... don't want my luck to run out.
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: Joe on September 21, 2016, 11:19:20 AM
I kind of had this issue with a customer last night. He uploaded his paper and approved all pages. We then lost all internet/email and phone service. About 3 hours later he shows up with his laptop and wants to replace three pages. Whining about how he tried calling and emailing and couldn't get through. I told him plates had already been output and he would have to pay for new plates seeing as how he had already approved the pages before we lost service. He was not happy. Said he was going to complain to the owner. I told him go ahead. Makes no difference to me.

Turned into an adventuresome night as we never got service back last night. We don't get good cell service inside this big metal building. Turned my phone into a wifi hotspot so I had internet access on my iMac through my phone. Had customers email their files through Gmail and then downloaded them to my Mac and put them into Prinergy. It worked pretty decent. Tip: Gmail doesn't have any size limits that I know of for attachments. One customer emailed me a 614 MB ZIP file. Took about 15 minutes to download from Gmail through my phone to my iMac. Downside was I tacked on 1.35 GB onto my data plan.

Now back to your regularly scheduled topic: magic photo cubes
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: Ear on September 21, 2016, 11:39:12 AM
See... keep jumping thru hoops and it will be expected, next time... until the end of time... Just say no. To everything.
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: born2print on September 21, 2016, 12:02:12 PM
We have a secret motto:
If we can't fix it... we won't
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: Joe on September 21, 2016, 12:09:15 PM
Quote from: Ear on September 21, 2016, 11:39:12 AMSee... keep jumping thru hoops and it will be expected, next time... until the end of time... Just say no. To everything.

Well the owner was going to send a driver to pick up the disks for last nights jobs. One was in Arkansas and one was in northern Indiana with a few more little closer. He said plan on an all nighter. I thought my option was the better option for ME! :rotf:
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: Farabomb on September 21, 2016, 01:18:05 PM
I'm a sucker for jumping through hoops but it's not for the customer, it's for this place, no matter how shitty it can be. Being nice to customers just gets you direct calls from them thinking they are their personal bitch. I just sent a file... no shit, you and my other 100 customers did as well and I need to to take a look at... no, put it in the email and maybe if I'm not a seething ball of rage when I get to it I'll see what I can do.

Every time we bust our ass to flip a job quick the customer thinks "well, if they can do it that fast..." and they chop off a few days on the next one. They don'e ever remember all the rushes that didn't have a rush charge but tack that on a bill and see how quick they squeal. I understand running a business isn't easy. Help out the customer and he might remember that next time. Piss them off and they will go elsewhere and bitch about you to everyone. That long time customer you bent over backwards for? They will bounce to another shop if their price is $.02 lower. I know, it happened to us.

I'm not saying be a dick but don't be so quick to drop to your knees just so you don't "loose" the customer. Most have no loyalty at all and are more problems than they are worth.
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: Ear on September 21, 2016, 01:24:15 PM
Quote from: Joe on September 21, 2016, 12:09:15 PM
Quote from: Ear on September 21, 2016, 11:39:12 AMSee... keep jumping thru hoops and it will be expected, next time... until the end of time... Just say no. To everything.

Well the owner was going to send a driver to pick up the disks for last nights jobs. One was in Arkansas and one was in northern Indiana with a few more little closer. He said plan on an all nighter. I thought my option was the better option for ME! :rotf:
Oh I agree, and probably would've done the same.... I'm just Saiyan, you might want to add some GeeBees to your data plan.

In my case, it would be: "I know you're home, but didn't you do some jobs on your phone a couple weeks ago? Just do that real quick." :death:
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: Farabomb on September 21, 2016, 01:34:34 PM
How do you work in the same place, in the same department yet we have never met?
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: Ear on September 21, 2016, 01:38:34 PM
Cat-6 Wormhole?
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: Joe on September 21, 2016, 02:04:54 PM
Quote from: Ear on September 21, 2016, 01:24:15 PM
Quote from: Joe on September 21, 2016, 12:09:15 PM
Quote from: Ear on September 21, 2016, 11:39:12 AMSee... keep jumping thru hoops and it will be expected, next time... until the end of time... Just say no. To everything.

Well the owner was going to send a driver to pick up the disks for last nights jobs. One was in Arkansas and one was in northern Indiana with a few more little closer. He said plan on an all nighter. I thought my option was the better option for ME! :rotf:
Oh I agree, and probably would've done the same.... I'm just Saiyan, you might want to add some GeeBees to your data plan.

In my case, it would be: "I know you're home, but didn't you do some jobs on your phone a couple weeks ago? Just do that real quick." :death:

I've got 5 GB per month at 4g speeds and drops to 2g after that. I'm only at about 1.4 GB for this month and that was after using 1.35 GB last night. Only a week left before it resets itself. I can't imagine I'll ever need 5 GB in a month.

I already remote access in all of the time. They do pay me for that though. Minimum half hour even if it only takes 30 seconds.
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: Ear on September 21, 2016, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: Joe on September 21, 2016, 02:04:54 PMI can't imagine I'll ever need 5 GB in a month.
... only because you don't currently have teenagers sharing your data plan.
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: Joe on September 21, 2016, 02:07:02 PM
Quote from: Ear on September 21, 2016, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: Joe on September 21, 2016, 02:04:54 PMI can't imagine I'll ever need 5 GB in a month.
... only because you don't currently have teenagers sharing your data plan.

Roger that. And don't plan to acquire any in the future!
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: Ear on September 21, 2016, 02:09:46 PM
and nerdy teens, at that. My 12 year old just got in trouble for using a bunch of data... turns out, he opened up his phone as a hot-spot, so a couple of his friends could tether to him and play a game on the bus. :shocked:  My wife blamed me, because they learned it watching me. :rotf: I was kinda proud of the little goober.
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: born2print on September 21, 2016, 02:15:20 PM
Mine's a nerd too  ;D
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: Ear on September 21, 2016, 03:14:33 PM
Nerds rule.
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: DigiCorn on September 21, 2016, 05:02:42 PM
We just switched from AT&T to Verizon, and did a family plan to save $$$. Problem is, my wife HAS to think any connection anywhere in the world has to be top speed, so if she has any issue whatsoever with wifi, she immediately goes to 4GLTE. Last month she used 8.4GB of our 10GB allotment, and I used 540MB.

Luckily my kids aren't old enough to demand phones from us yet.
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: born2print on September 22, 2016, 09:42:11 AM
8.4GB?!
holy cow!!
Title: Re: magic photo cubes
Post by: delooch on September 22, 2016, 10:57:53 AM
im on tmobile, They say their unlimited, but drop you down to 3G after you hit 30GB of transfer, and they dont count Netflix/Hulu or youtube traffic against thier use. I average about 20 gigs

Ive also dumped comcast and use the hotspot, i get 10GB there, then it drops down to 512k unlimited. Sounds slow, but the kids just use it for web browsing, and surprisingly, you can still stream Netflix and Youtube without buffering. Only thing that sucks is that it doesn't work when my phone inst in the house...