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Good, better best way to do mock-ups
We're starting to get more and more requests for mock ups of packaging and folding cartons. Typically we call our corrugated partner and have them cut out samples on their sample table using 12pt stock. Then I print the artwork on our HP Z3200 and we glue them to the samples and then cut them out with an xacto. That's a lot of work when someone requests 20 or 30 mock-ups. The boss wants to check into vinyl cutters but I'm not entirely certain he knows what he wants. Any ideas?
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Re: Good, better best way to do mock-ups
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We do it the same way you do...

and it sucks.
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need to invent a "4D" printer  :thumbsup:
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you just blew my mind.  :cool:
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need to invent a "4D" printer  :thumbsup:


I'm still waiting for a "4-D Printing Press" so that we can print jobs that go back in time to when the customer originally wanted them (i.e., before the computer files -- which are inevitably wrong -- arrive at the eleventh hour, requiring extensive prepress manipulation, several sets of print plates, etc., etc. . . . .  :shoots_self:)!

  :laugh:

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We're starting to get more and more requests for mock ups of packaging and folding cartons. Typically we call our corrugated partner and have them cut out samples on their sample table using 12pt stock. Then I print the artwork on our HP Z3200 and we glue them to the samples and then cut them out with an xacto. That's a lot of work when someone requests 20 or 30 mock-ups. The boss wants to check into vinyl cutters but I'm not entirely certain he knows what he wants. Any ideas?
We print the carton art on our Epson plotter the same as we would do for a press proof. It' then sent to our Cad dept where the operator laminates the printed art onto board with spray glue. He then cuts the mockup with our flatbed cutting table, much the same as he would do to make a structural sample.
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Look into a Xyron laminator.  Beats the Hell out of spray glue.

Only downside is ours only handles up to 25" wide stock.  Don't know if they make a larger one.

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Re: Good, better best way to do mock-ups
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We're starting to get more and more requests for mock ups of packaging and folding cartons. Typically we call our corrugated partner and have them cut out samples on their sample table using 12pt stock. Then I print the artwork on our HP Z3200 and we glue them to the samples and then cut them out with an xacto. That's a lot of work when someone requests 20 or 30 mock-ups. The boss wants to check into vinyl cutters but I'm not entirely certain he knows what he wants. Any ideas?


We do it the same way too - but 30 copies for a mockup?  That's looking like a complete print run for some of our jobs.  They only need 2-3 mockups to pass around.
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Prolly referring to the 20 rounds of changes some jobs go through. The kind where you get a file with the word "FINAL" in it 19 times.  :sleepy:
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We're starting to get more and more requests for mock ups of packaging and folding cartons. Typically we call our corrugated partner and have them cut out samples on their sample table using 12pt stock. Then I print the artwork on our HP Z3200 and we glue them to the samples and then cut them out with an xacto. That's a lot of work when someone requests 20 or 30 mock-ups. The boss wants to check into vinyl cutters but I'm not entirely certain he knows what he wants. Any ideas?


We do it the same way too - but 30 copies for a mockup?  That's looking like a complete print run for some of our jobs.  They only need 2-3 mockups to pass around.
Most of the time, if a client asks for 30 mock-up carton samples, they are setting up a display for a trade show, or passing them out as sales samples.
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That's what it was for - they had a presentation to both Wal-Mart and Walgreens . We also had to produce enough corrugated shippers for them to do an actual palette layout "just to make sure" everything fit as the CAD program said they would.
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Interesting thread...I've been working on an invitation package for our local humane shelter's "tea & fashion" show today.
Creating a folder to hold said invite and other components that get inserted  :death:
I've spent a bunch of time cutting down mockups today. Had to do 3 for the folder and it still needs adjustments - but almost there.
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I find cutting up mock-ups one of the better parts of my job but I don't have to do it daily.
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