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Title: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: abc on March 21, 2018, 06:51:17 AM
Hope you like this one, it's been called a 'gamechanger' by some of our beta testers.

A new way to create and edit Action Lists, it actually shows you what is going on directly in the PDF file.

https://youtu.be/hxF-d1mZln0?t=5s (https://youtu.be/hxF-d1mZln0?t=5s)
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: DCurry on March 22, 2018, 06:30:38 AM
Nice - can't wait to use it next time we upgrade in 5 years!
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on January 04, 2019, 01:50:47 PM
Anybody familiar with Variable sets?
Was going to try and create a round corner action, but it is asking for the variable set
Which I assume is the round corner I want, but not sure where to create the variable set.
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on January 04, 2019, 01:52:32 PM
Nevermind!!! there is an action that you can set the corner right in there
actually it wouldn't hurt to know about variable sets if anyone knows!
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: swampymarsh on January 06, 2019, 07:04:51 AM
From (poor) memory... Variable sets contain one or more variables that can be referenced in an action list. There can be more than one variable set, however only one variable set can be applied/active at a time.


EDIT: Here it is from the source –

http://www.enfocus.com/manuals/QuickStartGuide/PP/18/enUS/en-us/common/ppr/concept/co_variableset.html
http://www.enfocus.com/manuals/ReferenceGuide/PP/18/enUS/en-us/common/ppr/reference/r_using_variable_sets.html

http://www.enfocus.com/manuals/ReferenceGuide/PP/18/enUS/en-us/common/ppr/concept/co_smp_intro.html
http://www.enfocus.com/manuals/ReferenceGuide/PP/18/enUS/en-us/common/ppr/task/ta_smp_setup.html
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on January 07, 2019, 09:43:08 AM
Thanks Swampy!
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on March 04, 2019, 04:37:10 PM
I need to shift the even pages, quick way to do it in pitstop?
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on March 04, 2019, 04:40:01 PM
Never mind, Got it!
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Joe on March 04, 2019, 04:42:12 PM
Glad we could help.  :rotf:  :sarcasm:
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on March 05, 2019, 09:49:13 AM
 :laugh: Got a really messed up government job-bad files, lots o fixin to do.
It's like 100 mini jobs in 1 job - yay me!  :banana:

on another note, I got some files with really messed up media boxes
that are not fixing in pitstop, I will keep trying but any ideas?
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Joe on March 05, 2019, 10:08:19 AM
How are you trying to fix them in Pitstop?
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Joe on March 05, 2019, 10:13:06 AM
I do not like the Design Layout panel so I used the Edit Page Boxes with Inspector. Once I get the first page setup how I need I then do the "Apply these page boxes to all pages" which will only work correctly as long as all pages in the PDF have the same pages boxes. If some are different this will screw up the pages that are different in the PDF.

Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on March 05, 2019, 10:46:00 AM
These pdfs are so jacked up can't use the inspector
I'm having to run them thru indesign to fix the boxes!
each one of these 100 jobs is lots of pages and messed up!!!!
and yes they have different size jobs within each pdf!!
and the media box doesn't match any size!
HELP ME!!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Joe on March 05, 2019, 11:48:53 AM
Maybe you should take a sick day?

Nice to see you are embracing underline. :rotf:
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: David on March 05, 2019, 11:53:36 AM
and ALL CAPS


with exclamations...
hope we don't run out of those!
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on March 05, 2019, 12:38:24 PM
 :laugh: I'll start rationing
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on March 06, 2019, 02:56:56 PM
Is there any way to set the media box from the crop box?
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on March 06, 2019, 03:07:59 PM
Holy Cow! Not sure why it worked but in the Design layout panel it fixed my problem!
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Joe on March 06, 2019, 03:18:22 PM
Quote from: Tracy on March 06, 2019, 02:56:56 PMIs there any way to set the media box from the crop box?

Yes.
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on March 07, 2019, 12:19:40 PM
Do you create an action?
Don't see how you can do that with the inspector
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Joe on March 07, 2019, 01:02:13 PM
Yes with an action.
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on March 07, 2019, 02:10:24 PM
Sheesh! That might be a little quicker than using the design layout!
Thanks!
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on March 07, 2019, 03:17:47 PM
These files are so messed up, I can't change the way I'm doing it - Boo!
I'm might still figure it out tho, we'll see
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Joe on March 07, 2019, 03:20:38 PM
Sounds like fun. You get all of the neat stuff!
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on March 07, 2019, 03:25:17 PM
You want some?  :laugh:
Actually got it going ok, fixing all in pitstop
and learning pitstop more as I'm going along!
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Joe on March 07, 2019, 03:33:55 PM
Well I wish I had some but I don't like to steal anyone's thunder so keep right on going there. You're doing a great job!
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: abc on March 07, 2019, 10:55:43 PM
If you could share it would be a good topic for the monthly PitStop webinar?
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on March 08, 2019, 11:11:14 AM
Definitely a good example of a bad file, I will check into it!
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on March 08, 2019, 11:45:00 AM
Don't think they will let me share it, I will check tho, just in case
Military schematics for Aircraft, It has destruction instructions right on it.
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: David on March 08, 2019, 11:59:31 AM
as long as it's not US aircraft, I would share...


 :rotf:
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Joe on March 08, 2019, 12:48:18 PM
Quote from: Tracy on March 08, 2019, 11:45:00 AMDon't think they will let me share it, I will check tho, just in case
Military schematics for Aircraft, It has destruction instructions right on it.

You're being watched!

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Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: frailer on March 11, 2019, 07:13:23 PM
Quote from: Tracy on March 06, 2019, 03:07:59 PMHoly Cow! Not sure why it worked but in the Design layout panel it fixed my problem!

I use DLP quite a bit. It's great.
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on March 12, 2019, 10:38:35 AM
Been using it a lot myself lately!
The thing I use on a daily basis is getting rid of marks
and adding new marks the way I want them!
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Joe on March 12, 2019, 10:40:17 AM
Quote from: Tracy on March 12, 2019, 10:38:35 AMThe thing I use on a daily basis is getting rid of marks
and adding new marks the way I want them!

I use the Remove Printer Marks often. I do not need or want any marks on my PDF's.
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on March 12, 2019, 10:44:34 AM
That's interesting! I think I would feel naked without them :laugh:

I set up all the digital pdfs the same way, so my page boxes are exactly the same
relink to all my typical templates, links up perfectly no moving anything!
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Joe on March 12, 2019, 10:53:59 AM
I do that with the page boxes...hence no need for marks.

But mostly we tell ALL customers to not put any marks on their files because their files are usually wrong so no marks are better than wrong marks. First thing I do with all customer supplied PDF's that have marks ===> Remove Printer Marks action. Then fix the page boxes.
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: mattbeals on March 12, 2019, 11:54:34 AM
Quote from: Joe on March 12, 2019, 10:53:59 AMI do that with the page boxes...hence no need for marks.

But mostly we tell ALL customers to not put any marks on their files because their files are usually wrong so no marks are better than wrong marks. First thing I do with all customer supplied PDF's that have marks ===> Remove Printer Marks action. Then fix the page boxes.

Or fix the page boxes, then remove anything outside the bleed box? Then you can remove art box and redefine the crop, bleed, media boxes to fit whatever standard you used based off of the trim box.
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Joe on March 12, 2019, 12:23:04 PM
Quote from: mattbeals on March 12, 2019, 11:54:34 AMOr fix the page boxes, then remove anything outside the bleed box? Then you can remove art box and redefine the crop, bleed, media boxes to fit whatever standard you used based off of the trim box.

Usually the marks are outside the trim box even if the page boxes are wrong so removing the printer marks first usually works. But there are times when there is no trim box. In those cases I do fix the page boxes first and then remove the marks that are then usually outside of the trim marks...

...but not always as some customers put marks in the live work area. Then it becomes a manual process to remove the marks.

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: Tracy on March 12, 2019, 01:21:28 PM
Or those ones with manually created marks!
uh, thanks for helping! :laugh:
Title: Re: PitStop 2018 - Action List Visualizer
Post by: motormount on March 14, 2019, 11:33:26 AM
Quote from: Joe on March 12, 2019, 12:23:04 PM
Quote from: mattbeals on March 12, 2019, 11:54:34 AMOr fix the page boxes, then remove anything outside the bleed box? Then you can remove art box and redefine the crop, bleed, media boxes to fit whatever standard you used based off of the trim box.

Usually the marks are outside the trim box even if the page boxes are wrong so removing the printer marks first usually works. But there are times when there is no trim box. In those cases I do fix the page boxes first and then remove the marks that are then usually outside of the trim marks...

...but not always as some customers put marks in the live work area. Then it becomes a manual process to remove the marks.

 :facepalm:

That's how i used to work also, back in the printshop.

Marks inside work area are were usually corel pdf's immutable to pitstop actions therefore...