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Any takers.

http://www.apple.com/osx/ (http://www.apple.com/osx/)

Oh yeah...it's free.

about to download and install it on the home computer since it's free and all

"Mavericks"
Are they switching from cats to surf spots?

Quote from: Mikie on October 22, 2013, 04:32:16 PMabout to download and install it on the home computer since it's free and all

You get what you pay for. Good luck!

Quote from: gnubler on October 22, 2013, 04:37:15 PM

Quote from: Mikie on October 22, 2013, 04:32:16 PMabout to download and install it on the home computer since it's free and all

You get what you pay for. Good luck!

I gots me a back up :) IT guy at work is wanting to upgrade us all so I need to test it out some before I let him

Quote from: Mikie on October 22, 2013, 04:32:16 PMabout to download and install it on the home computer since it's free and all

I will go that route also but I'll wait until the weekend. Let me know of any "issues".

will do, I will run it the rest of the week and see what pops up in production. I am using it now... no magic fartin' unicorns or nothin yet :(

Nah, not worth the trouble at this point. Maybe at home once I put a new HD in the MacBook, assuming the Core2Duo will handle it anyway.

I know I have customers that will upgrade so I have to do it to test the functionality with Insite.

My laptop is dead in the water. Says install failed and I can't get past that screen. Won't even boot or show my time machine backup

That's not good. Can you boot into recovery mode?

Quote from: dlw2x2 on October 22, 2013, 08:05:20 PMMy laptop is dead in the water. Says install failed and I can't get past that screen. Won't even boot or show my time machine backup

As a result of the mavericks or what prevents you from trying?

I can get to recovery mode and get the OS X Utilities with the options of: restore from time machine, reinstall OS X, get help online or disk utility. Reinstall doesn't work... Disk utility does repair on permissions but says disk is damaged and can't repair. Restore from time machine says there is nothing there. 

Had no problems with the laptop until I tried to update.

I am running fine, but from reading the previous posts I dont know for how long.

so far I CAN say, there is nothing new enough to make it a needed upgrade. I watched their keynote video and it all sounds good, but lying to people seems to be a common practice to sell shit over the last few decades....

Nice feature, I'll be sure to try it out immediately because new = awesome, always!

I'm sure it wasn't Apples fault. :sarcasm:

Quote from: dlw2x2 on October 22, 2013, 08:37:51 PMI can get to recovery mode and get the OS X Utilities with the options of: restore from time machine, reinstall OS X, get help online or disk utility. Reinstall doesn't work... Disk utility does repair on permissions but says disk is damaged and can't repair. Restore from time machine says there is nothing there.

It sounds like either your HD was killed by Mavericks or it just happened to di during the upgrade (stranger things have happened). :laugh:

Was your time machine backup on that same hard drive? (never a good idea)

Quote from: born2print on October 22, 2013, 04:32:49 PM"Mavericks"
Are they switching from cats to surf spots?

Indeed...

QuoteWhy call it Mavericks?
Apple has finally run out of cat names for its OS X updates—sorry, lynx, bobcat, and liger—so it's on to a brand-new theme. Instead, the company has chosen to base subsequent OS X updates on locations in its home state of California. The first of these is Mavericks, a famous surfing location just southwest of San Francisco.

Huh? And I thought the cat names were retarded...

Why don't they use the place names of where their products are actually made, by slaves? Too exotic?  :laugh:

Mac OSX FoxConn Cellblock 63718-B (with safety net)

Quote from: gnubler on October 22, 2013, 09:27:41 PMHuh? And I thought the cat names were retarded...

Why don't they use the place names of where their products are actually made, by slaves? Too exotic?  :laugh:

Mac OSX FoxConn Cellblock 63718-B (with safety net)

Dedicated to all of the 12 year old Chinese children that committed suicide during the development cycle of this release.

I like it!

And don't worry about when the Chinese invade America. They all work for Apple! :laugh:

Went from 10.6.8 to 10.9 with no problem at all on a MacBook Pro (intel core2duo, 4GB RAM, 250GB HD). Haven't spent too much time with it. Really only concerned with QA for EFI Metrix.

All back ups were done on an external drive, but it won't let me boot from it. Finally gave up on it last night. Gonna give it another go tonight when I get home.

Quote from: born2print on October 22, 2013, 04:32:49 PM"Mavericks"
Are they switching from cats to surf spots?

I think they went through all available species of cats.

Unless they want to call it a word that Mrs. Slocombe from the British sitcom Are You Being Served? is inordinately fond of using...  :evil:

Cheers, John the Fontaholic

Mac Puddy Tat?

I won't be upgrading on my current workstation -- it's still running OSX 10.4.11...  :old:

And the one-piece Mac that will eventually replace this one, runs on either 10.5 or 10.6 -- I forget which...

Cheers, John the Fontaholic

I can't wait for OSX Humboldt.

Codename: 'Ere?  :laugh:

Wtach out for OS Fresno. It'll steal your car, sell it for parts at a chop shop, use the money to buy meth, open up a cell phone in your name and never make any of the payments and then apply for welfare using your SSN.

count me in for that one!

Quote from: Fontaholic on October 23, 2013, 07:50:00 AM

Quote from: born2print on October 22, 2013, 04:32:49 PM"Mavericks"
Are they switching from cats to surf spots?

I think they went through all available species of cats.

Unless they want to call it a word that Mrs. Slocombe from the British sitcom Are You Being Served? is inordinately fond of using...  :evil:

Cheers, John the Fontaholic

Good show, that!

Quote from: born2print on October 23, 2013, 09:50:25 AM

Quote from: Fontaholic on October 23, 2013, 07:50:00 AM

Quote from: born2print on October 22, 2013, 04:32:49 PM"Mavericks"
Are they switching from cats to surf spots?

I think they went through all available species of cats.

Unless they want to call it a word that Mrs. Slocombe from the British sitcom Are You Being Served? is inordinately fond of using...  :evil:

Cheers, John the Fontaholic

Good show, that!

What are you guys? Like 70? My Mom is a big fan of that show

I blame my mom, if I watched TV with her it was British comedy or drama series.

Like when Deadwood came out and everyone was all "that Al Swearengen guy is such a good actor"
I was thinking "duh, that's bloody Lovejoy ya twit."


I could keep up with Benny Hill's limericks by the age of 10.  :laugh:

ok... got me.. I used to watch Benny Hill.

I, too, was a Benny Hill fan under the age of 10. I liked Fawlty Towers also.

Quote from: DigiCorn on October 23, 2013, 09:59:53 AM

Quote from: born2print on October 23, 2013, 09:50:25 AM

Quote from: Fontaholic on October 23, 2013, 07:50:00 AM

Quote from: born2print on October 22, 2013, 04:32:49 PM"Mavericks"
Are they switching from cats to surf spots?

I think they went through all available species of cats.

Unless they want to call it a word that Mrs. Slocombe from the British sitcom Are You Being Served? is inordinately fond of using...  :evil:

Cheers, John the Fontaholic

Good show, that!

What are you guys? Like 70? My Mom is a big fan of that show

Don't forget -- I'm the guy who started a Doctor Who thread in the TV section!   :tongue:

I grew up in a household with two older parents (my mother was 42 when she had me) that watched a lot of PBS -- Mystery!, Fawlty Towers, Sherlock Holmes (Jeremy Brett version), plus I watched the kids' stuff (Sesame Street, Electric Company, 3-2-1- Contact, ZOOM!, etc.).  It was because Doctor Who followed the kids' shows every weeknight at 7:00 pm that I first got into the show.

I kept watching PBS as I got older, seeing shows like Red Dwarf, Blake's 7, Keeping Up Appearances, The Young Ones, and so on.  Are You Being Served? didn't start airing until the early '90s here (when I was in college).  At first, I remember my folks watching this show and thinking, "WTF is this?!" (especially after seeing Mrs. Slocombe's beehive hairdo).  But after I sat down and began watching the show, I was drawn into the humor and the characters.

Cheers, John the Fontaholic

I have a confession. I watched Dr. Who a few weeks ago (before your post).......and enjoyed it.  :embarrassed: :old:

I thought I was the oddball! Nice to know there's others out there.
Don't forget Smiley's People, Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy, DANGER: UXB, Brideshead Revisited, Black Adder, Upstairs Downstairs, Mystery... the list goes on. God Bless Britain.

Sorry for the threadjack  :hello:

DANGER: UXB!!

my god that brings back memories!!

be Blake's Seven next

and... Danger Mouse, best cartoon EVER!!!

YES!!

Maybe a few All Creatures Great and Small fans here too? I own the whole series on disc and read the 3 main books too  :embarrassed:

I recorded on VHS all the Danger Mouse cartoons, we watch them on occasion

Quote from: Skryber on October 23, 2013, 11:40:54 AMI have a confession. I watched Dr. Who a few weeks ago (before your post).......and enjoyed it.  :embarrassed: :old:

You Are Not Alone...  :banana:

Cheers, John the Fontaholic

So....back to Mavericks for a minute. Any idea where I can get an image or installer for Mountain Lion? I did purchase from Apple, but since I can't get to my desktop at the moment and I didn't make a bootable USB (yes major forehead slap) I am stuck at the moment. Also, when I try to boot in safe mode, I get to the grey screen with the apple logo and spinning gear looking wheel, then it just shuts down. When rebooting after that, it goes back to trying to install Mavericks. My hard drive, not the sub drive, the S.M.A.R.T. status says it is verified. I did get to one point last night where it tried to reinstall Mountain Lion, but said the hard drive was locked and I couldn't install. Is there a way to unlock?

By the way, I use to watch all those PBS shows too. My favorites: Monty Python, Faulty Towers, Are you being served, Dr. Who

Quote from: born2print on October 23, 2013, 11:43:08 AMI thought I was the oddball! Nice to know there's others out there.
Don't forget Smiley's People, Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy, DANGER: UXB, Brideshead Revisited, Black Adder, Upstairs Downstairs, Mystery... the list goes on. God Bless Britain.

Black Adder is awesome! (Although some seasons were better than others -- I never much cared for the first season...)

I forgot to add Absolutely Fabulous to my list as well.

Cheers, John the Fontaholic

Quote from: dlw2x2 on October 23, 2013, 01:08:13 PMSo....back to Mavericks for a minute.

lol  :ontopic: :offtopic:

Quote from: dlw2x2 on October 23, 2013, 01:08:13 PMSo....back to Mavericks for a minute. Any idea where I can get an image or installer for Mountain Lion? I did purchase from Apple, but since I can't get to my desktop at the moment and I didn't make a bootable USB (yes major forehead slap) I am stuck at the moment. Also, when I try to boot in safe mode, I get to the grey screen with the apple logo and spinning gear looking wheel, then it just shuts down. When rebooting after that, it goes back to trying to install Mavericks. My hard drive, not the sub drive, the S.M.A.R.T. status says it is verified. I did get to one point last night where it tried to reinstall Mountain Lion, but said the hard drive was locked and I couldn't install. Is there a way to unlock?

By the way, I use to watch all those PBS shows too. My favorites: Monty Python, Faulty Towers, Are you being served, Dr. Who

Can you get to disk utility at any point?

Yes, I can get to disk utility by booting with option r. But I haven't had any luck from that point.

p.s. I forgot about Black Adder

You can't initialize the HD in Disk Utility?

I can run repair permissions..all is good. When I run verify disk, it tells me the drive is damaged, back up and reformat. I can't get past that. From what I was reading on the Apple site, if the S.M.A.R.T says verified, your hard drive isn't really damaged. I don't know. I was hoping to not initialize the hard drive, at least not just yet.

Some how I have managed to get mountain lion to reinstall.....so far. It still have over an hour to go, but so far things seem to be working. I will let you know if it works or not....fingers crossed.

It worked!!! Laptop is up and running. Go me!!!!!!

Cool. Let us know what you think of Mavericks when you get a chance to run it. Or are you back at Mountain Lion?

I am sticking with mountain lion for now. I will let everyone else work out all the kinks and take my chances with having to pay for the upgrade at a later date.

I installed it on an external firewire drive attached to my 27" 2010 iMac and at home on my 2012 Mac Mini's main drive. No real issues to speak of although the install's time left feature is a joke. I waited almost 15 minutes when it said, "Less than a minute to go", also booting back to SL left me at a grey screen on the iMac, I had to push the button on the back to shut it down and then restart but it booted fine and right into SL. Mavericks also seems to lag a bit when you log out, it goes to a grey screen first then to the login screen. I ran Rampage, and the new apps like Maps and iBooks still haven't had time to try the Adobe apps or Quark.

I did the install on Tuesday to hopefully fix my Illustrator problems. No dice.
Nothing special about Mavericks, and if it wasn't free i wouldn't have bothered.
Much of the touted features seem to do with the F'ing cloud and since this is my work machine and the IT admin set everything up with his Apple ID, I can't use any of the new stuff. You can't even download the update without having an Apple ID. I had to wait for my IT guy to do it for me. In fact, i was going to just reinstall the latest Lion OS ( Command R ) and I couldn't even do that without an Apple ID.

All your ID belong to Apple.

Lynda.com is doing their "Intro to Mavericks" (http://on.fb.me/QNDlQi) for free until Nov 17th, but it looks like you have to go through their stupid FaceBooks page to access it.

Comment at will.  :popcorn:

I have the rather cynical view that they are getting everybody onto (free) OSX10.9 to get them ready for a big (chargeable) upgrade to OSX11 next year!

SURPRISE!!!


yes, this is my shocked face....    :zounds:

oops, forgot this again...    :sarcasm:

Quote from: abc on November 13, 2013, 12:26:43 PMI have the rather cynical view that they are getting everybody onto (free) OSX10.9 to get them ready for a big (chargeable) upgrade to OSX11 next year!

Apple would never do such a thing!

or change things

or remove features like FTP

or release untested shit that breaks most existing programs

or drop support for legacy computers

or send out secret patches that cause havoc and you spend days trying to figure out what happened because you didn't install anything new.

nothing like that from the innovative, bleeding edge technology marketing company that happens to sell hardware that is now Apple.

Getting Mavericks for free is about like getting an STD for free.

It's never free Joe. Hasn't life taught you that yet?

Quote from: Farabomb on November 13, 2013, 01:07:48 PMIt's never free Joe.

Exactly.

The "bleeding edge" is the knife blade slicing your wrists after spending days involved in an "upgrade".

it's free-ish...

Just got a Mavericks reminder on my 10.8.5 Mini at home. Am doing nothing for the moment. It came out while I was away; kinda missed it. No urgency, is there?  :undecided:

No urgency. Not a whole lot of extra anything though I have read that Apple only releases Security updates for Mavericks so any previous OS is a security risk. Not sure how accurate that report is as it was on CNET that is notoriously pro Windows.

For work though...I can tell you that XMF client will not install or run on it.

Quote from: Joe on December 26, 2013, 03:20:03 PMNo urgency. Not a whole lot of extra anything though I have read that Apple only releases Security updates for Mavericks so any previous OS is a security risk. Not sure how accurate that report is as it was on CNET that is notoriously pro Windows.

For work though...I can tell you that XMF client will not install or run on it.

10.5.8 at work. Delaying until we are dragged kicking and screaming with the next big XMF upgrade, sometime next year (2014). New server box in the mix as well, as it's a move to 64-bit on XMF server. Which means a major upgrade of Black Magic, which means... etc.... etc...

Our Prinect/Signastation upgrade is pending for the next few weeks, so we're updating all the Macs as far as 10.7 since that's all they support, and I think these 1st gen Intel G5 Towers might not even take 10.8, who knows.

Intel G5 Towers? No such thing. Everything up through G5 had PowerPC CPU's and if they have PowerPC processors you can't go any further than OS X 10.5.8. Apple dropped the "G" designation when they switched to Intel CPUs. My 1^st gen Intel iMac can't install anything after OS X 10.7. That was a 2006 model.

So you guys are going with Prinect instead of XMF?

OS X Mountain Lion system requirements
To install Mountain Lion, you need one of these Macs:

iMac (Mid 2007 or newer)
MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer)
MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer)
MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer)
Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer)
Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer)
Xserve (Early 2009)

OS X Mavericks: System Requirements
Learn about the system requirements for OS X Mavericks.

To install Mavericks, you need one of these Macs:

iMac (Mid-2007 or later)
MacBook (13-inch Aluminum, Late 2008), (13-inch, Early 2009 or later)
MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid-2009 or later),
MacBook Pro (15-inch or 17-inch, Mid/Late 2007 or later)
MacBook Air (Late 2008 or later)
Mac mini (Early 2009 or later)
Mac Pro (Early 2008 or later)
Xserve (Early 2009)
Your Mac also needs:

OS X Mountain Lion, Lion, or Snow Leopard v10.6.8 already installed
2 GB or more of memory
8 GB or more of available space

you can tell a G5 Mac from an Intel Mac by the DVD drive doors.
A G5 has 1 DVD drive door, an Intel Mac has 2.

Quote from: Joe on December 27, 2013, 10:40:18 AMIntel G5 Towers? No such thing. Everything up through G5 had PowerPC CPU's and if they have PowerPC processors you can't go any further than OS X 10.5.8.

Oh, rly? See attached.

QuoteSo you guys are going with Prinect instead of XMF?

Apparently. Even as bad-ass as XMF looked & the benefits, I guess Heidelberg made 'em some kind of offer to stay with Prinect. Probably a bundled deal of some kind with the impending press install. Whatever.

Yes. That is an Intel CPU. No where does it say "G5". So yes, you can run 10.7 on an Intel Mac Pro but not on a G5 Mac Pro.

Quote from: Joe on December 27, 2013, 11:11:10 AMYes. That is an Intel CPU. No where does it say "G5". So yes, you can run 10.7 on an Intel Mac Pro but not on a G5 Mac Pro.

Well butter my biscuits, I'd better go in & change the description of our Macs on the company website pronto!!!  :blind:

Real butter or I can't believe it is butter? :tongue:

Um, duh???

Quote from: Slappy on December 27, 2013, 11:31:21 AMWell butter my biscuits, I'd better go in & change the description of our Macs on the company website pronto!!!  :blind:

Please do so all the desingers can compare their shit with yours so they can tell you they're running newer stuff.

uh.... anyone?

Quote from: DigiCorn on February 27, 2014, 01:11:09 PMuh.... anyone?

Running it on all of our prepress Macs.

why do you upgrade your op system?

Why do designers think they need the newest version of anything adobe?

I'd like to be on the latest and "greatest," especially if it's free... but no way I am taking a chance on fucking up my working system.

Quote from: Tracy on February 27, 2014, 02:41:15 PMwhy do you upgrade your op system?

Because I can. :laugh:

Actually it seems Apple no longer does security updates for any version other than Mavericks according to the tech writers though Apple will not comment on it or answer their questions about it.

Quote from: Joe on February 27, 2014, 04:06:09 PM

Quote from: Tracy on February 27, 2014, 02:41:15 PMwhy do you upgrade your op system?

Because I can. :laugh:

And also that is what was on our new 27" iMacs when they came in.

I have it at home on my Macs, but not here at work.
We have too many Quad apps that can't currently run under Mavericks... yet. Our max OS is 10.8 for now.

Quote from: DigiCorn on February 27, 2014, 03:55:38 PMespecially if it's free...

It's not. The next upgrade will be $199 and there will be no going back without a day long wipe & reinstall. Enjoy!

Quote from: gnubler on March 04, 2014, 10:44:35 AM

Quote from: DigiCorn on February 27, 2014, 03:55:38 PMespecially if it's free...

It's not. The next upgrade will be $199 and there will be no going back without a day long wipe & reinstall. Enjoy!

Actually the OS X software will continue be to free but it will force hardware upgrades on a regular interval. So yeah, it's free but not free.

free-ish...


I'll take two!

You'll get nothing. And like it.

Quote from: DigiCorn on March 04, 2014, 01:04:53 PMYou'll get nothing. And like it.

I accept.

I took the free upgrade, mostly because the last 3-4 upgrades weren't free.  Then all my (old) Adobe CS programs stopped working.  Hey ho.  At least Quark 8 still works  :death: :death:

How old of Adobe CS apps aren't working? I have 5.5, 6, and CC all running under Mavericks.

er, CS1   :old:

 :laugh:

Yeah, that might me a problem. I know what Adobes solution would be. :laugh:

Gonna start a german language anti Adobe protest website called www.Cloud-Nein (http://www.cloud-nein)  :hello:

Ok, that's pretty good.  :lmao: