did a search and came up empty, so...
got a file from client with a grayscale .psd file placed and colorized to pms 877.
It's done the right way, selected with the direct selection tool and colored with a spot pms 877.
Should be good to go, except...
it comes out black.
Sep preview shows it as black
pdf has it as black.
So, how do you make a grayscale image colorized correctly in Indesign and actually print that way?
thanks,
David, the one who is now rightfully insane
Save it as a tif file instead of a psd? I hate CS4...
I thought Sauce cleared this up for us back at PPF, that Indesign cannot do it. Remember? It was one of the greatest threads in the history of mankind... :laugh: :laugh:
Also, check PAP, I bet it can do it. :ninja:
never mind, I found this little nugget:
QuoteBut this stop working as soon as your image has transparency in it. Why? Because. (I assume there's a better reason than that, but the only answer I have is, "Because.") Fortunately, there is a workaround.
First, save the file as a monotone instead of a grayscale image:
1. Open the grayscale image in Photoshop and choose Image > Mode > Duotone.
2. In the Duotone Options dialog box, choose Monotone from the Type popup menu.
3. Click on the color swatch and choose any color (not black). I suggest picking some neutral gray or flourescent green or something obvious.
4. After you click OK in the color picker, give the color some obvious name, such as "map me to the correct color"
5. Click OK and save your duotone (monotone, actually) file as a PSD.
Once the image is saved as a monotone, you can import it into your InDesign document and apply the proper color. But first you need a color:
* If you already have a color swatch you want to apply to the image, select it in the Swatches palette (make sure nothing is selected on your page when you click on the swatch) and hold down the Option/Alt button while clicking the New Swatch button. This creates a duplicate of the swatch you selected. Set the Color Type popup menu to Spot and make sure it's named something appropriate.
* If you don't have a color swatch already, make one now in InDesign's Swatches palette with the color ingredients you want — but make sure you save it as a Spot color (even if it's specced with CMYK colors).
Now it's time to do the deed, and apply the color to the image:
1. After you have created your new spot color swatch, choose Ink Manager from the Swatches palette menu.
2. In the Ink Manager, click on the imported image's spot color ("map me to the correct color") and then choose the new swatch you built in the Ink Alias popup menu.
3. If the swatch you just made was supposed to be a spot color (for example, you're applying a Pantone color to the grayscale image), then skip to the next step. On the other hand, if the color swatch was actually supposed to be a process color, click on the little icon next to it in the list of inks. Don't enable All Spots to Process because that turns off the ink aliasing that we're depending on.
After you click OK to leave the Ink Manager, you're done: The grayscale image is mapped to the new color. If you don't see the color on screen, there's an easy fix: turn on View > Overprint Preview. Ink aliasing (mapping one spot color to another color) is only visible when Overprint Preview is enabled. If you want to make sure that the effect worked, open the Separations Preview palette and hover the cursor over the image.
from here:
http://indesignsecrets.com/colorizing-grayscale-images-with-transparency.php
yeah, thank god for all the new innovations at Adobe, you'd think they'd have this fixed by now.
:blowup:
I wasn't aware PSDs could even be colorized in Indy. I always use TIFFs for that reason.
Quote from: almaink on May 04, 2009, 10:54:39 AMSave it as a tif file instead of a psd? I hate CS4...
I think it does need to be a tiff but didn't it have to be a tiff in pre CS4 apps too? And Quark?
Like I said easier to just re-save as a tif then colorize the sucker.
You could also save as CMYK psd from Photoshop, and add a spot channel, but more work than needed. I hate CS4!!!!
Quote from: ninjaPB_43 on May 04, 2009, 10:56:17 AMI thought Sauce cleared this up for us back at PPF, that Indesign cannot do it. Remember? It was one of the greatest threads in the history of mankind... :laugh: :laugh:
I think that was about vector EPS. Ah, the nostalgia. Makes we want to go pull up that thread and relish the new asshole [redacted] ripped on Sauce.
Quote from: david on May 04, 2009, 10:57:30 AMyeah, thank god for all the new innovations at Adobe, you'd think they'd have this fixed by now.
:blowup:
I don't think they think it's broken.
Quote from: gnubler on May 04, 2009, 10:59:53 AMQuote from: ninjaPB_43 on May 04, 2009, 10:56:17 AMI thought Sauce cleared this up for us back at PPF, that Indesign cannot do it. Remember? It was one of the greatest threads in the history of mankind... :laugh: :laugh:
I think that was about vector EPS. Ah, the nostalgia. Makes we want to go pull up that thread and relish the new asshole [redacted] ripped on Sauce.
It was glorious. :kiss:
it was a .psd file with transparency, so the .tiff thing wouldn't work.
I searced for about an hour and finally found what I postd that actually ended up working.
god these people are frikken insane to come up with crap like this.
is that not the most convuluted work-around you've seen?
I take that back, I use to be a Scitex operator, nothing beats that for work-rounds...
You couldn't use a transparent tif? I had one last week and it worked just fine, although I was thinking it wouldn't.
well, it could have if it wasn't already plated and the press guy noticed there was a comment on the proof that nobody saw that said "should this be silver?". This is just the way it came from them (clients), and I got to fix it while the press waited. You know what the psd file was? It was two lines of text... that's right, two lines of copy that they wanted to be silver, wtf are you doing in PS with two lines of text?!?!
DA's.
The desinger on this one just never checked the output preview, after we made a confirming pdf and everything. Two rounds of proofs and re-supplied files with changes from client later...
Can't believe that We are supposed to know what they want it to be...
it's either silver or it's not, what do you want it to be?
:banghead:
LOL Makes ya want to kill doesn't it? Just plated a rush job one of the images had a black background of 100% of all 4 process colors! Figures on a rush job. Who does this shit? One of the reasons I always say a license should be needed to do design!
Quote from: david on May 04, 2009, 11:13:19 AMis that not the most convuluted work-around you've seen?
...no contest. :shocked:
They've just concluded some brain research here...white matter, not grey matter, is what matters. How do you keep it active/functioning? Use it...on stuff like this, I guess. :laugh:
Thanks for helping me stave off dementia, david. :cheesy:
Quote from: frailer on May 04, 2009, 05:53:35 PMThanks for helping me stave off dementia, david.
ahh, you're welcome.
oh, the sweet release of death...
:laugh: