'Cloud' data storage

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frailer

October 12, 2011, 08:34:13 PM
In line with moving to OWC RAID archiving, hopefully, am thinking about adding off-site archiving as well. This one's come up. Their rates sheet I find a bit confusing. Will have to go over it to find out just how they charge, and how much it might cost over a year. Am thinking maybe 350~400 GB sitting there... not much more.
Anyone else doing this?
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Joe

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October 12, 2011, 09:04:01 PM
I'm not. And won't be anytime soon.

I guess it's how valuable your data is. Mine is not that important. In fact, if we lost every file in the building life would go on. Besides, the bandwidth usage would adversely affect everyone's iTunes and youtube experience at work. :sarcasm:
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Chilbear

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October 12, 2011, 09:38:16 PM
How about using your brief case and take home the backups. I had the daily accounting backups in my briefcase every night. Another machine to read them at "home" would cover off the case that "something" did happen. That way you get a new(er) machine to surf with.

frailer

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October 12, 2011, 09:44:11 PM
There's this option for the initial data upload. Incremental uploads after that, maybe.
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October 12, 2011, 09:52:10 PM
I agree with Chilbear. Take a backup home. Put it in the attic if you need it closer to the clouds. :laugh:
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gnubler

#5
October 12, 2011, 10:01:37 PM
Right with Joe. Don't do it.
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Joe

#6
October 12, 2011, 11:00:19 PM
I can see off site backups for important stuff like financial data, medical records, porn, etc...

but business cards, flyers, newsletters...I think not. It's just another way for the man to get his hands in your pockets.

Plus you could setup your own cloud server at home for FREE and eliminate the middle man.
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mattbeals

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October 12, 2011, 11:09:13 PM
I wouldn't do it. How much it's going to cost with CPU and OS time plus transfers plus storage. What advantage to you get that you can't achieve with some other means? How long are the incrimental updates going to take? If it's $75 per device plus $2.50/hr after than what happens if you've got 200GB of storage to send them? What do you do for storage in the mean time?

This might be appropriate for business continuity. Absolutely critical business data, the kind you can't operate the business without. Everything else can be stored on external hard drives and rotated or a similar procedure with tape. Until bandwidth is faster, faster to access across the internet, and less expensive these things do not make much sense for many situations.

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frailer

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October 12, 2011, 11:20:48 PM Last Edit: October 12, 2011, 11:24:10 PM by frailer
   
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gnubler

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October 13, 2011, 06:32:16 AM
Quote from: Joe on October 12, 2011, 11:00:19 PMI can see off site backups for important stuff like financial data, medical records, porn, etc...

Ya, but uploading the guts of your computer to some third party company? I do not understand why people subscribe to services like this. I don't care how "secure" they say they are, the bottom line is you're copying the entire contents of your computer to someone else's. Plus, if the internet or the company collapses you have no backup of your stuff which will be the exact day your hard drive crashes.
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Quote from: pspdfppdfx on December 06, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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Joe

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October 13, 2011, 09:48:48 AM
Like I said, just another way for the man to stick his hands in your pocket. And also like I said, if I wanted an off-site backup I'd set up my own. I trust me.
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#11
October 13, 2011, 10:19:25 AM
I'm not into Clouds... yet.

Our most recent foray into the "cloud"...  had a named server for the host go down... no way to get to the stuff until it get back up and restored.
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gnubler

#12
October 13, 2011, 09:53:06 PM
Exactly. David didn't give specifics, but that's the point. David also recently commented how freakin' cheap external HDs are now and there is no benefit with time & cost of doing backups to some distant strange server vs a disk sitting on your desk attached to your computer. Back it up and take it home, that's it.

Another nay from the gnubler.
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Quote from: pspdfppdfx on December 06, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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David

#13
October 14, 2011, 09:31:26 AM
Getting a great deal on some internal 1Tb Seagate drives again. On sale, 48 bucks apiece

With AIT tapes at about 60 bucks a piece (and the storage size is nowhere near a TB), the internal drives are far cheaper than anything out there.

Found this neat tool and getting it as well.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153112
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Joe

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October 14, 2011, 09:36:23 AM
Quote from: david on October 14, 2011, 09:31:26 AMGetting a great deal on some internal 1Tb Seagate drives again. On sale, 48 bucks apiece

With AIT tapes at about 60 bucks a piece (and the storage size is nowhere near a TB), the internal drives are far cheaper than anything out there.

Found this neat tool and getting it as well.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153112

Just make sure to use the eSATA connection. Much faster than USB...unless it is USB 3.0. Which that one isn't.
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