Bring to front marks...

[tapdn]

I know this is simple, but I am brain dead from an intense week.
Template has color bar running across center of sheet with a built in "white area" behind. There are fold marks placed on top of color bar. I need the color bar to knock out (print on top of bleed page elements), but the fold marks need to print on top of color bar. I can't seem to bring the marks to the front. Layered I need pages on bottom, then color bar and fold marks on top.

[Skryber]

I don't know how to do this either. I've always cut my bleeds down if they were overlapping the color bar. I'll play around with it.


edit: select color bar, Info, Bring to front?

[tapdn]

That will work for me Skryb, but not the perfect solution. The answer is stuck in the back filing cabinet of my feeble brain!!  :undecided:

thanx

[Skryber]

Teach me oh Wise One.

[t-pat]

That will work for me Skryb, but not the perfect solution. The answer is stuck in the back filing cabinet of my feeble brain!!  :undecided:

thanx

been a while since I've actually used preps but this sort of thing came up all the time when I did. preps crop marks will come to the front and will have a hairline white knockout around them. You could step and repeat them or a static mark brought to the front should work too. Don't have preps in front of me to verify this but I remember doing stuff like this all the time.

[tapdn]

should...but

bring color bar (static mark) to front of pages then select my crop mark (also static) and bring to front then the color bar is still on top of my crop mark! Think I vaguely remember there is a key combo involved.

[t-pat]

should...but

bring color bar (static mark) to front of pages then select my crop mark (also static) and bring to front then the color bar is still on top of my crop mark! Think I vaguely remember there is a key combo involved.

will the automatic preps fold marks work? I'm going to have to fire up my "demo" of Preps at home and check this out - been too long!

[Joe]

Hey, I think I just replied to this over at the GUA but I've replaced the built in template marks with smart fold marks. That's the only way I can get them on top of everything else.

[tapdn]

yeah, should have recognized that was you Joe. I'll try that, but seems I remember a way from the past to do this- could have been before smart marks though.

[Joe]

Let me know if you find a method that works. I've tried everything I can think of. The problem I've had is the built in template marks are not selectable to tell them to come to the front. We do yellow pages on phone books and the yellow background knocks them out and we can't shorten the bleed enough to keep them. The fold smart marks is the only thing I've found to work. Either it's something new in the last version or two or we just never noticed it over the years until recently.

[tapdn]

Doing our first phone book now actually. Narrower 30" web and odd book size forced me to create all new templates. Did as Skryb suggested and changed the bleed margin to get by.  In the past we have built color bars with the fold mark in Photoshop and placed in Preps, but you can imagine the placement in templates have to be dead on!

[Joe]

On the plus side the fold smartmarks are a breeze to create. I just don't like having to fix about 500 templates though. We are just slowly updating them as necessary.

[frailer]

Yep, I seem to remember those Marks with the white border around them too, from the early days (well, our early days, 5 years ago). Possible that functionality has disappeared? You talking Static, not Smart...correct? Was mucking around in XMF impo, having exactly the same problem. But this time my own imported Bar knocking out the trims. Emailed Fuji lady. We'll see. Won't hold my breath on a solution.

Hey, I think I just replied to this over at the GUA but I've replaced the built in template marks with smart fold marks. That's the only way I can get them on top of everything else.

...so...you've just decreased the mean reply-lag time over at GUA, from, say, 5 days to 2?     :tongue:   :laugh:

 

[Joe]

Yep, I seem to remember those Marks with the white border around them too, from the early days (well, our early days, 5 years ago). Possible that functionality has disappeared? You talking Static, not Smart...correct? Was mucking around in XMF impo, having exactly the same problem. But this time my own imported Bar knocking out the trims. Emailed Fuji lady. We'll see. Won't hold my breath on a solution.

Hey, I think I just replied to this over at the GUA but I've replaced the built in template marks with smart fold marks. That's the only way I can get them on top of everything else.

...so...you've just decreased the mean reply-lag time over at GUA, from, say, 5 days to 2?     :tongue:   :laugh:

 :laugh:

The Preps forum is pretty slow but the Prinergy one usually is fairly active and you hear from someone the same day in most cases.

[tapdn]

Got that right Frailer- GUA forum is about as useful as saddlebags on a sow!  :rolleyes: