I added a page about 2012 (http://www.prepressure.com/prepress/history/events-2012) to the 'history of prepress & printing' section of my site. Besides a lot of take-overs and mergers, nothing much seems to have happened - especially not on the software front. Did I miss something?
Saw that from your Twitter feed the other day, nice roundup! Can't think of anything that skated by, maybe the "No Print Day" diaster by Toshiba. (http://deadtreeedition.blogspot.com/2012/06/10-questions-about-toshibas-no-print.html)
How about http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2012/08/30/americas-10-disappearing-jobs/ (http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2012/08/30/americas-10-disappearing-jobs/)
9. Desktop Publishers
> Pct. decrease: -14.7%
> 2010 jobs: 22,600
> Total job loss (2010-2020): -3,300
> Median annual wage: $36,610
8. Prepress Technicians and Workers
> Pct. decrease: -15.9%
> 2010 jobs: 50,800
> Total job loss (2010-2020): -8,100
> Median annual wage: $36,280
Cheers.
Thanks, I did read that report about disappearing jobs but assumed it was older. It must have been the term 'desktop publishers' that fooled me.
.... and talking of desktop publishers: I dusted off a page that had been in my DRAFT folder for far too long: a picture guide to 25 years of prepress (http://www.prepressure.com/prepress/history/picture-guide)
Ah, the memories :old:
Oh man, I recognize everything in that picture guide. Makes me feel :old:.
Here's one for the real old timers, circa 1970
http://commfaculty.fullerton.edu/woverbeck/dtr5.htm (http://commfaculty.fullerton.edu/woverbeck/dtr5.htm)
Quote from: gnubler on January 03, 2013, 05:26:45 PMHere's one for the real old timers, circa 1970
http://commfaculty.fullerton.edu/woverbeck/dtr5.htm (http://commfaculty.fullerton.edu/woverbeck/dtr5.htm)
Get the sideburns! Now I've got the Epson V330 Photo set up at home, prepare yourself for a frailer photo, same era. You will ROTFALTYWY (till you wet yourself).
Oh, and the daggy girl-hair. :huh: Farrah F-M was a cutting-edger, it's now apparent.
Quote from: gnubler on January 01, 2013, 09:16:13 PMHow about http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2012/08/30/americas-10-disappearing-jobs/ (http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2012/08/30/americas-10-disappearing-jobs/)
9. Desktop Publishers
> Pct. decrease: -14.7%
> 2010 jobs: 22,600
> Total job loss (2010-2020): -3,300
> Median annual wage: $36,610
8. Prepress Technicians and Workers
> Pct. decrease: -15.9%
> 2010 jobs: 50,800
> Total job loss (2010-2020): -8,100
> Median annual wage: $36,280
Cheers.
$36,000 ??? :shocked: I get £8 an hour (about $13) for a 26 hour week - before tax. That's £10,816 a year or about $17,630 and £8,653 or $14,104 after tax. I would ask about jobs over there but I don't think Homeland Security would let me in.
The median wage sounds high compared to the offers I've been getting recently and the shit offers you see on craigslist. Whatever, these cheap-ass employers will get what they pay for: Tards. And a lot of reprints.
I think 36K a year = about 20 bucks an hour in the US.
$36k = $17.30/ hr
$20/hr = $41,600
and you're right employers definitely get what they pay for, if they want to pay $12-15/hr they'll get someone right out of school who will leave as soon as they are properly trained for anything that pays better
Quote from: Laurens on January 03, 2013, 05:15:49 PM.... and talking of desktop publishers: I dusted off a page that had been in my DRAFT folder for far too long: a picture guide to 25 years of prepress (http://www.prepressure.com/prepress/history/picture-guide)
Ah, the memories :old:
I used to run the Creo trendsetter as a proofer becasue a salesman at my old shop refused to use a inkjet proof. Spent all that money and within 6 months we were only using it for dielines. Guess a $800 proof was a bit of a hard sell. Had that Galileo there as well. AGFA wasn't pleased when they walked in and saw the Creo device.
Quote from: Laurens on January 03, 2013, 05:15:49 PM.... and talking of desktop publishers: I dusted off a page that had been in my DRAFT folder for far too long: a picture guide to 25 years of prepress (http://www.prepressure.com/prepress/history/picture-guide)
Ah, the memories :old:
I was good from '87 and on, had to look up the older ones :cheesy:
I used to run one of those Iris24, lol.
Quote from: born2print on January 07, 2013, 12:11:56 PMQuote from: Laurens on January 03, 2013, 05:15:49 PM.... and talking of desktop publishers: I dusted off a page that had been in my DRAFT folder for far too long: a picture guide to 25 years of prepress (http://www.prepressure.com/prepress/history/picture-guide)
Ah, the memories :old:
I was good from '87 and on, had to look up the older ones :cheesy:
I used to run one of those Iris24, lol.
3047 here, two of em, looked like a painter by the end of the day.
I have used most of the stuff in the list myself, but what the hell is that item from 1980 (first in the list)?
Quote from: david on January 07, 2013, 01:02:48 PMI have used most of the stuff in the list myself, but what the hell is that item from 1980 (first in the list)?
coax network connector, I had never seen it before either.
BNC token ring networking connector.
ah ha!
couldn't tell from the pic, it looks like some sort of a plumbing fixture... and I'm not a plumber
oh yeah, it's from the early 80s, and since it followed the 70s, my memories may be a bit fuzzy... :drunk3:
BNC connector I think it was called, used it on the scitex network for the whispers and prismas etc...I think it was 10bt based but I could be completely wrong.
You didn't forget how to lay pipe, did you? :hello:
Quote from: Farabomb on January 07, 2013, 01:26:08 PMBNC token ring networking connector.
One ring to rule them all!™
Quote from: gnubler on January 07, 2013, 01:50:31 PMYou didn't forget how to lay pipe, did you? :hello:
No Ma'am I rekon not. :deadhorse:
What are you wearing?
Quote from: Farabomb on January 07, 2013, 01:26:08 PMBNC token ring networking connector.
It is a BNC connector, but for Ethernet, not for Token Ring. When I looked up the image I originally also did not recognize it any longer, even though I've plugged in a million of these. I do still remember thinking 'What idiot now decided to use a slightly wider modem cable' when they introduced the current type of plug. I think I still have an ethernet terminator lying around here somewhere. Yup, in those days even the network had a terminator, just like good old SCSI.
Quote from: Laurens on January 07, 2013, 03:15:44 PMQuote from: Farabomb on January 07, 2013, 01:26:08 PMBNC token ring networking connector.
It is a BNC connector, but for Ethernet, not for Token Ring. When I looked up the image I originally also did not recognize it any longer, even though I've plugged in a million of these. I do still remember thinking 'What idiot now decided to use a slightly wider modem cable' when they introduced the current type of plug. I think I still have an ethernet terminator lying around here somewhere. Yup, in those days even the network had a terminator, just like good old SCSI.
Yep it was daisy chained as I recall. Good times.
Quote from: gnubler on January 07, 2013, 01:57:13 PMWhat are you wearing?
Bell bottoms, steel toes and a dress shirt.
Weird. I didn't know today was "Twins" day cuz that's exactly what I'm wearing.
me too!
weird!
Well I'm wearing a tutu with stripper heels :laugh:
very nice, is that a company uniform?
of course, that's why the g-string has the company logo on it :wink:
Pics please, or it's not real. :homer:
aw man, I was dreamin'
give me a peanutbutternanner sammich, it's the Kings b-day
Just for you Digi
Perfect! :kissass:
keep looking for the company logo but can't see it!
BTW - WAY better than our work uniforms
Quote from: JCPenfold on January 08, 2013, 09:10:46 AMWell I'm wearing a tutu with stripper heels :laugh:
Must be a Buffalo thing?
yep gets a little chilly during blizzards tho
:lmao:
no thermal tutu's in buffalo?
yes but they make your @$$ look huge
:lmao:
Me Too!
Weird!
Quote from: david on January 08, 2013, 10:50:51 AMno thermal tutu's in buffalo?
Like this? It may be thermal.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NJR93zTqOxY/T5hoCZfTrCI/AAAAAAAABgM/W_ayZ7q_E-s/s640/bufallo66_11.jpg)
Quote from: gnubler on January 09, 2013, 03:09:34 PMQuote from: david on January 08, 2013, 10:50:51 AMno thermal tutu's in buffalo?
Like this? It may be thermal.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NJR93zTqOxY/T5hoCZfTrCI/AAAAAAAABgM/W_ayZ7q_E-s/s640/bufallo66_11.jpg)
it warmed me up
Can you see the bowling alley hidden in this picture?
Back yonder, behind the two hills. :hello:
te-he, you said behind.
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/yahoo-news-exclusive-trump-releases-birth-certificate-bill-151304482.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/yahoo-news-exclusive-trump-releases-birth-certificate-bill-151304482.html)
Quote from: born2print on January 09, 2013, 03:14:46 PMCan you see the bowling alley hidden in this picture?
LOL yes it's called Reckio's and I have actually bowled there, does that make me famous? :wink:
Nowadays? Yes.