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Started by Slappy, October 02, 2022, 12:30:39 PM

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Slappy

I noticed a "new" cutter on the floor this week, a Perfecta 92, and the operator says "Yeah, I'm told you computer guys are going to send the cutting info to it so we don't have to even think any more!"

:ohno:

Briefly looked at the machine, can't even find a network connection & I recall from previous places that the cutter needs an actual PC attached to it, correct? Also, is there an add'l module for XMF (and HP since the digital work is all Indigo) to supply the JDF info?

I believe there's a Perfecta tech coming in this week to train the Ops, I'll see what they know about the software side but I'm skeptical since it's usually a whole different person handling that side.
A little diddie 'bout black 'n cyan...two reflective colors doin' the best they can.

Possum

Good luck! You know that no machine does everything the sales slime claims. (Or even half).
Tall tree, short ropes, fix stupid.

Foozball

Quote from: Slappy on October 02, 2022, 12:30:39 PM... you computer guys ...
As a former Production Floor worker, I'd be pulling that idiots chain this week ... with all the spectacular things it can, and how they do his team out of a job.
Or maybe just tell him to "get f@$#ed" ... yeah that seems better, I'd just do that!!

David

you'll probably find out you have to have a specific MIS system in place in order to send the JDF data to the smart cutter.

good luck!

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Slappy

Ha! I did it!! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

There's actually a shockingly included module in XMF for Finishing. Turned it on, tied it to the Sheet Impo & it spit out a usable JDF. I guess it'll do folding schemes too but I'm only dealing with cutting – this week.

A little diddie 'bout black 'n cyan...two reflective colors doin' the best they can.

Tracy

so what does it do? create a program for the cutter?

Slappy

Yup, so it has a "Starting point" for the operator, I gather that's the gripper edge of the sheet, and then all of the resulting moves are automatic based on the file XMF passes along. For typical jobs (4up Letter, 72up BCs, 2up tabloids etc.) they'll just have stored templates on the cutter. But as we try to maximize sheets like the weird B2 on the Indigo and start doing more twist cuts & mixed-size gang runs it'll really pay off.

Now, I just have to find the CAT5 connection on the cutter and see about pointing it to a network folder so I don't have to schlep files on a USB.
A little diddie 'bout black 'n cyan...two reflective colors doin' the best they can.

AaronH

Oh that's awesome. I kinda wish our cutters had that setup. I think they're JDF capable, but bindery just makes their own programs on them and they're not connected to the network at all.
Mac & Windows | XMF | Fiery | Oris

born2print

We used to send CIP3 (or 4?) data to the bindery for the cutter(s) but over time it seemed that they didn't want it and preferred to program from scratch and their own saved files so we quit bothering.
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AaronH

Oh interesting. We send CIP3 data to our presses from XMF. It's apparently the end of the world if the pressmen need to figure out how to do things without it.
Mac & Windows | XMF | Fiery | Oris

born2print

Yeah, the pressroom uses it here too, just not the bindery.
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