I'm embarrassed

Farabomb · June 21, 2011, 01:32:28 PM

I've been in prepress for 10+ years but I was never taught the ways of typesetting. I know enough to get around but it really pisses me off when I get simple edits and I can't do them because I don't know how. The designer is on vacation and can't be reached, just like always, and the customer needs 3 lines of type added. I'm at the limit of my knowledge and embarrassed that I can't do it. Attached is a screenshot. All I need to do is add another dentist and his info but when I do it reflows, I get overset text and I feel shame. I've looked in help but it's no help. Anyone help a bother out here? CS5 indy.

t-pat · June 21, 2011, 01:42:33 PM

show invisible characters. There's probably a column break at the end of that first one (would look like an arrow pointing down)
Check baseline shift (space before paragraph, space after paragraph.)

Chilbear · June 21, 2011, 01:42:46 PM

Pull down (make longer) the two text boxes allowing more lines. You will need to reduce the leading and/or lengthen the boxes to get one full dentist to move from the right hand side to the left. If the two boxes are not linked then copy and paste the top name moving to the bottom of the left box. If the doc is setup correctly the style sheet may be use and it will control the internal line leading - look under Type for Paragraph Styles - each carriage return is a "paragraph".

Tracy · June 21, 2011, 02:04:08 PM

It's always rough getting more text in after it's all formatted.
Looks like you can get rid of the extra paragraph returns (show invisibles) like the others said.
and do a space after:
select the last line of each dentist and do a space after-you can reduce the space between each
dentist this way, you can play around with the amount till you get it right.

Farabomb · June 21, 2011, 02:04:35 PM

That was the direction I was going in changing the leading but I guess I'm too German and didn't think to change it independently in each column. I figured there was some obscure formatting setting and not the dick with it till it looks good method I use. As far as I can tell there is no style sheet, it says basic paragraph and I just added what I needed, shrank the leading in one column and enlarged the other. Was I thinking too much into this?

Tracy · June 21, 2011, 02:10:55 PM

to me the leading should be the same
but Im way too meticulous some times!

David · June 21, 2011, 02:12:33 PM

make the logo bigger...

gnubler · June 21, 2011, 02:22:08 PM

Quote from: Farabomb on June 21, 2011, 01:32:28 PMI feel shame.

I feel that during the rare time I have to launch quark.

Quote from: david on June 21, 2011, 02:12:33 PMmake the logo bigger...

I would also suggest changing the font to Papyrus, it'll look more trustworthy and refined. Trust me, I'm a professional.

Farabomb · June 21, 2011, 02:35:17 PM

Quote from: Tracy on June 21, 2011, 02:10:55 PMto me the leading should be the same
but Im way too meticulous some times!

I can't keep the leading the same and have it flow right. I don't feel that it's "correct" but I feel the customer will be ok with it.

I already did something with papyrus this year so I'm good for another 5 or so.

David · June 21, 2011, 02:44:40 PM

Oh, I am so downloading that bookmark, it's so... inspirational.

and the font, it just speaks to me.
oh, and the colors pop, too.

gnubler · June 21, 2011, 02:58:03 PM

It makes me hungry. Go make me a turkey pot pie.

Sabrina The Turd Polisher · June 21, 2011, 07:42:40 PM

Quote from: gnubler on June 21, 2011, 02:58:03 PMIt makes me hungry. Go make me a turkey pot pie.

Did you ever deliver your turkey pot pie to Joe? I'm worried...

gnubler · June 21, 2011, 08:07:34 PM

I didn't. It was actually a secret code we have that involves me someday turning Joe's property into a potato farm/microbrewery. All will be invited.

Sabrina The Turd Polisher · June 21, 2011, 08:17:53 PM

Quote from: gnubler on June 21, 2011, 08:07:34 PMI didn't. It was actually a secret code we have that involves me someday turning Joe's property into a potato farm/microbrewery. All will be invited.

There are potatoes in my eyes and ears...what? :laugh:

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